Would you be in favor of raising the minimum wage to 15 euros?

Or is that way too much?

And do you also think that waiters should be exempt from the minimum wage? After all, they live primarily on tips. Some waiters have even said that the tips are so excessive that they would even voluntarily forgo their salary!

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koofenix
10 months ago

As far as waiters are concerned, I find it inconsistent that part of the payment of the wages will be transferred to customers. I order something and that has a certain price I have to pay. If he can’t live with this, he’s supposed to make his shop.

Funship
10 months ago
Reply to  koofenix

a part of the pay to the customers

Let’s think sharply: where could the money come from?

koofenix
10 months ago
Reply to  Funship

As a rule, no tip is given in Spain as the cost of accommodation is included in the price. Thus, wage costs are part of price calculation.

Funship
10 months ago

If I give tip or not, I’ve been served and I can’t care what the service thinks.

If I really don’t give a tip, it was so bad that I don’t want to come back, and I don’t care about it.

Funship
10 months ago

This is quite common in some countries. Doesn’t change that the payment of the staff comes out of the bag of the guests ðŸTM‚

And whether or not there is a tip is still voluntary. We’re not in the USA.

MuffingamerHD1
10 months ago

Oh, that’s bullshit. No waiter will voluntarily waive his main income. Hardly one gets just about as much tip as the amount of his reward!

Funship
10 months ago

Do you also think that waiters should be excluded from the minimum wage?

No.

Because they live mainly from the tip.

I’m sure that’s not true.

Some waiters have already said that the tip is so extreme that they would even voluntarily waive the salary!

That’s why the gastronomics cannot save themselves from all the applications. And the staff that has disappeared into other industries in a crowd just made it because of the terrible overpayment. No one can agree with his/her conscience.

Funship
10 months ago
Reply to  Lukas1990

Do you hear such an infinitely quiet melody? This is the smallest violin in the world, and she plays “my heart bleeds for you”.

ArniD
10 months ago

Basically, it always sounds good.

Only if wages increase, will shopping or services etc. more expensive, from where should the employer take the money? For him, everything becomes more expensive. Thus everything remains the same even if the wage is more.

Zwitscherling
10 months ago

It’s difficult. I am still in the opinion of discharges in the tax and, above all, social charges would be the better way.

But if there is an increase, everyone should benefit from it, also workers in gastronomy.

LG.

MuffingamerHD1
10 months ago
Reply to  Lukas1990

That’s bullshit. Not every waiter gets 2,000€ tip per month! This is the exception. In addition, this would not be a relief, but would only change the whole system completely. You have to consider: A local has 4 cooks and 10 waiters, and for example 4 employees in the background. Now he has no monthly costs of €30,000-40,000 a month. Where’s the rest going? Is that the others? Very unfair. Does the food cost less? No And if this is going to make quite big places, it’ll be very unfair.

Zwitscherling
10 months ago
Reply to  Lukas1990

So relationships, like in the USA?

Aside from that, I don’t know a waiter who gets almost as much tip.

apophis
10 months ago
Reply to  Lukas1990

But waiters get thousands of euros of tips.

Where did you get the nonsense?
From the same source that says you earn millions?

Zwitscherling
10 months ago

I did a job in the gastronomy too.

You can’t generalize this.

Of course, a waiter in the city center gets more tips than one in a village pub.

Keksdieb86
10 months ago

Some waiters have already said that the tip is so extreme that they would even voluntarily waive the salary!

Source!

Keksdieb86
10 months ago
Reply to  Lukas1990

Oh, the boss said that. Then… xD

Tommy731
9 months ago
Reply to  Keksdieb86

Who believes that?

Gnurfy
10 months ago

In any case, I would be physically hard to stab people themselves in “simple” structures for a state-appropriate minimum wage in all those industries.

Of course, there is also the principle of a voluntary collective agreement between companies and trade unions in Deutschlaud, but we simply remain here nationally at regionally to regionally performed structures with high physical fatigue.

In addition, for example, waiters have long since been allowed to put together a specific industry or fundamentally state-defined minimum wage deliberately in proportion to a combination of basic wage and tip / premiums.

I would, however, be in favour of officially introducing a kind of combination wage model for physically impaired people with no longer full capacity, instead of allowing health-related unwillingness to abandon the opportunity of impaired and working-willed people to lie on a purely voluntary basis for simplified working conditions in their workplace requirements.

It is only fundamental that work must be truly worthwhile for those who can go physically and mentally full-time, or to some extent also for those who, in part-time subject to social insurance, can no longer meet the ever-growing “interruptions” in the working world.

Despite all criticism, the traffic lights, at least according to their plans for inflation-adjusted income gaps between non-active people in full or proportionate basic security and part-time to fully employed people, want to create no basic safeguard.

Only the poor “mini jobs” and the temporary work would I now finally want to see massively restricted.

FlockeFindet
10 months ago

Of course not. Minimum wage is an absolutely stupid idea.

Some waiters have already said that the tip is so extreme that they would even voluntarily waive the salary!

“Some” means so 3 that once said in full-suff, huh?

W18J66
10 months ago
Reply to  FlockeFindet

At the beginning of the 2000s there was a regulation that prices on the map are gross prices, i.e. they include taxes and services.

Nobody knows. The result would be that every waiter must get 15% of his turnover from the boss.

Funship
10 months ago
Reply to  W18J66

The result would be that every waiter must get 15% of his turnover from the boss.

Where’s that with the 15 percent?

W18J66
10 months ago
Reply to  W18J66

What amount is to be used for the tip? The net amount or do I have to pay tips to the finance minister? That would be the case if the tax was charged with tipping.

Funship
10 months ago

I love these stupid claims that some Honk sucks out of my fingers.

W18J66
10 months ago

I always love these stupid questions about “source” or “where does that stand?”

W18J66
10 months ago

There were 19% tax and 15% service.

ChrisCR
10 months ago

In the EU it is recommended to set the minimum wage to 60% of the average salary. In Germany, this would be just over €14.

Gnurfy
10 months ago
Reply to  Lukas1990

Of course, one wonders what a minimum wage commission needs.

Our minimum wage commision is nothing because it cannot be fair, in particular by lobbyism, in the weighting of its decisions.

From that point of view, the state intervenes here and there if the whole thing is not as smooth as it should in some areas.

Why should hard physical work not be at least the same value as less hard physical work, e.g. for a deligating companion, or other professionals with (higher) professional qualifications?

The material carrier makes the same basic wage with his body, which he could then save on bone debris, for example in construction, by training to form a garment with the same wage.

ChrisCR
10 months ago
Reply to  Lukas1990

Because this is only a recommendation and every Member State may implement its own mechanisms. In Germany, we wanted to ask the groups that actually affect the minimum wage. So employers and workers instead the unions.

Gnurfy
10 months ago

In particular, in trade unions with voluntary collective bargaining, it was not always in the case of professional qualifications not too far away from each other.

Thus, a few decades ago, for example, the material-creating construction workers were not really far behind a young masonry group shortly after his insistent training back in the basic hourly wage.

Even in the chord, capable construction workers were involved, because without loadable material carriers, the most experienced masonry skeleton could not achieve any chord performance in the walls.

It looked similar in days earlier when, without helpers, no real increase in earnings was possible for the team at the face (BuM).

polishing or building conductor, or In addition to higher basic wages, Steiger received additional premiums for efficiency increases compared to plan.

ChrisCR
10 months ago

Our current government has set the minimum wage to €12 at the beginning of the legeslatur period, although the minimum wage commission wanted something around €10. Politics also mixes in time. For example, there is a national minimum wage in Bremen because the federal average is too low. At present, however, they are quite close together.