Wolf in sheep's clothing – sports car up to 30k€?
Hi, I'm looking for a sporty car for up to 30,000. If it's a bit more, no problem. It shouldn't be a GTI, i30n, or something similar, rear-wheel drive or all-wheel drive, petrol. I don't care about the horsepower, but the car should have a good 0-100 km/h (0-60 mph) and 100-200 km/h (60-120 mph). It can be a two-seater, but not a Miata-sized car; I'm just too tall for that. The features include air conditioning and cruise control. 🙂
It doesn't necessarily have to be a V8 with 20l consumption, anything up to 15l combined would be ok for me.
I'd prefer a car with a lot of "understatement," or a wolf in sheep's clothing. Preferably with decent tuning potential.
Does anyone have any creative ideas?
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BMW 440i Coupé or M240i. You drive them at 10l and go to each one’s sack, so you don’t have to stop driving.
If you’re civilized, it’s 8-8,5l on average.
You will also be able to sell the box for the same money at any time.
“The ones you drive with 10l and go to the bag” – you picked me up 😂
At the 440i there is an M-Performance complete system. No end pot as with 1er/2er but straight with open flap. This is a completely different world to the M4. Engine brutally durable and overall maintenance costs are very manageable.
If I don’t like the 440i so well, the M2 could be more suitable, I’ll look more closely at it – thank you:D
M2 won’t do anything for 30k. M240i.
Absolutely. According to OPF series doesn’t sound much worse, but you’ll find almost nothing for the sound. These are usually only end silencers with a small piece of pipe (slip-on). MPPSK system can only be operated without OPF.
A model with OPF is measured in sports. Said 440i with this MPPSK has, for example, 86 db in appearance, must be measured with flap and makes 83 vlt 84 db. So below the value in appearance. Shut up (Sport) is far over 100. Completely legal because only to be measured with flap.
The OPF may be louder (e.g. 93 db). This is then open, i.e. the value at which the non-OPF makes far more than 100.
Also for resale, always without OPF. I know it at the 1st. There it was when I bought my 2020 so that 2016-2018 (short before OPF, i.e. before June/July) have cost the same money as 2019er.
In order to really judge this, I would have to look at one in real and listen to one – I’ll keep an eye on the 440i. But would you have to be one of before 2018 without OPF?
So 340i and 440i are already cramped, I’m just saying. Drive a 140i and only the M-Performance endpot and (currently not banished) a HJS downpipe are far from coming to the system in the 4th run. Would give a lot for the plant (legal). Shut up is okay, shut up is already brutal.
This is no longer possible today and so much there was (with approval) in very few cars.
If you don’t like the optics, you can’t change.
Yeah, I mean that.
Subaru Impreza WRX STI
BMW E46 M3
BMW E92 M3
Nissan 350Z Nismo
Nissan 370Z Nismo
Subaru BRZ/Toyota GT86 (with Stage III you have 400 hp which is possible within 30k (car + tuning))
E92 M3 does not exist for the money, otherwise I would immediately:D
Then please make 4,000 euros, the 20 I’ll leave you, don’t like so funny but rather straight sums 😜
I get the coal left from the 30k if I show you an E92 M3 with fresh TÜV and service from the dealer for under 30k?!
Please
I found this offer at mobile.de:
BMW M3 Coupé*TÜV NEW*SERVICE NEW*CARBON*SCHALTER*
First registration: 10/2007 Mileage: 180.929 km fuel: petrol Power: 309 kW (420 HP)
Price: 25.980 €
Total%Food
Joo, have you seen?
the one he sent, the one who broke with 90 and the spoiler
Do I say 😉
the M3 is gone. It was obviously a good car for very little money.
Inserat sounds serious and interesting. Price is too low. If the price is correct, it must be a real bargain. But I can’t imagine the seller seems to know and will certainly not be worth it.
Let’s see. Came in today. Tomorrow at least one of them will look at him. On Monday, he’s gone if he’s good.
In the color and the equipment it would be long gone. Almost 200,000. I think a lot of people have already looked at him. He’d be out of the court. I guarantee that he either runs like a sack of nuts, has some surprising lack or simply has never seen anything outside service before and then in the worst case only the BMW intervals.
I have also considered buying a TT 8n as 224Ps Quattro or VR6 🤓 Is of course not as horny as a m3 😀 Perhaps the 550i ne idea would also be as a facelift with 450Ps.
I don’t like it, I don’t care. In the case of automatic movement, you can do less wrong when driving, in particular the previous owners 😉
I hope the Corolla GR 2023 is still coming to DE… then I’d buy it directly…
Hey, what do you expect? Somewhere you have to make deductions, the engines are solid, if they are well maintained!
I myself drive an E46 330Ci from 2001 with over 280.000 km and it runs technically perfect!
I would always buy such a car only with manual switching, which keep significantly longer and make less zigzag than the automatic 🤷
But it’s a lot down. Have also seen one for 25k with 90k Km LL, but how I have been the offer suspekt cheap xD
https://www.ebay-sizeanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/bmw-m3-e92-competition/2097560471-216-4330
If you don’t care about brands, you could look for a Peugeot RCZ. A really cool sports coupé, which I think has quite potential for the coming youngtimer – it was the last really emotional model of the manufacturer that has been a very noble brand (“Franzosen-Mercedes”). A new edition of this format is no longer to be expected under Stellantis-PSA. Gradually have gogled for fun, since reputable specimens start at around 10,000 euros. A spider car for the Kiddies was the RCZ never, apparently he had too little prestige before the disco. But this will benefit us today in the search for used cars.
Alternatively, you can look for a Chrysler Crossfire. It was not built in the Amiland but at Karmann in Osnabrück and used technology and even cockpit (!) of the first Mercedes SLK of 1996, which in turn builds on the Mercedes W202 (C-Class). Thus, it also has a very nice rear wheel drive. I drive such an old Mercedes C-Class, which has been a very robust and reliable friend for many years and 277,000 kilometers. The crossfire is not worse than the W202 and a car for connoisseurs who do not need a brand name. He is a Mercedes called Chrysler – DaimlerChrysler greets.
So I don’t get a serial car of the last 10 years that meets your requirements.
I had a Peugeot 208 GTi. He had a turbo petrol with 208 hp, went from 0 to 100 in 6.3 seconds and pulled up to 150 / 160 km/h still quite many cars. Thanks to the suspension, the part had a rich road position, and Kartfeeling arrived very quickly. Opticly, the vehicle was kept relatively very discreet, it was not possible to look at the performance at all. The only evidence was the edge spoiler, the exhaust and the red stripe on the front apron. And of course the sound that was really good for the part and read many people evasively look.
Is needed for around €13-15,000, I didn’t have a single vehicle problem with my up to 60,000 km. He ran and ran and was still quite economical. Under 7 liters combined, although I was often quite flotted and liked to let him walk on the car.
Once had a Skoda Octavia RS in front of me, who pierced his gas pedal, at least it seemed like that. In the meantime, he had to get away from the gas because, unlike me, he came so “slow”.
The 208 Gti is also unfortunately front drive, which I already had 3x, which is enough ^^ Octavia RS is not particularly interesting as a combination.
It would also not be bad if the Karre is not the perfect wolf in the sheep’s fur, would simply be nice to have 😀 The Infiniti q50 (as hybrid, for example, because the nix and in spite of 5,1 0-100) or the q60s are, for example, cars that would fall under there, which I have already thought…
Q50 and Q60S are chic boxes but unfortunately have never seen one before…
Well, unfortunately, this is really very slow with 10 seconds for 0-100 is as fast as my old golf 4 with the 1.6s and 100Ps ^^
How about a Subaru Impreza? The current Impreza e-Boxer has 2 liters of 150 hp (Mild)hybrid.. is not a racing car like the STI, but in view of the number of admissions, definitely an Exot
Also are no longer sold in DE and when it became only small numbers. Very bad… You can hardly find those who are for sale.
Hyundai i20 N, Toyota GR 86, E36 M3
E36 m3 gets very tight with the budget, the Toyota is super lame and the i20n unfortunately also scratches front… But thanks ^
Hyundai Genesis Coupé 3.8 v6
volvo v70r
volvo s80t
passat w8….