Does your neck get long when you jump?

Hello everyone

I have an 11 year old gelding who gets very long in the neck when jumping, especially towards and over the jump, and he pulls the reins away. I don't want to pull too tightly so that he jumps more roundly. I don't know if I should use a different bit or what tips do you have?

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pony
2 years ago

if you don’t regulate that to jump, the horse must do it.

and since if it has the head down, at the floor nothing can see what is before it, it has to make the neck long.

your ride does not give the horse the chance to trust that you are right. that is the reason why many horses are so extreme before the jump.

back to the racks, in the galopp, pass 10m in front of the bars to the trab, immediately into the unloaded seat and sweep over. the horse is responsible for crossing the bars and later also the jump.

let him do his job.

Baroque
2 years ago

The horse needs his neck for his balance at the jump. So far, it has full freedom of movement and after the jump it stopped to set again, so that it does not shove into the trench is your task when jumping. If you don’t bring your hand far enough so that the horse will run into the trench or you can’t stand up enough, you can’t ride your seat and change to the relief seat to jump.

Hjalti
2 years ago
Reply to  Naticora

You can only beat your hands over your head again! You seem to be not clear how much you are running your horse, what muscular condition, training, degree of ride, equestrian skill jumping requires!!!

Not horse-friendly!!!!!!!!

Baroque
2 years ago
Reply to  Naticora

Then the horse is not far enough for jumping and needs a lot more gymnastization on the carcass (+long/double long) and under the saddle. You can gradually get back to the jump through rod work. Bascule requires a lot of agility to open the basin and then close it again. Push and assembly in well developed are prerequisites for jumping.

FunnyFanny
2 years ago
Reply to  Naticora

Why should the horse jump “collected”? The horse must learn calmly and objectively to tax and sort itself. THE is the task of the instructor/master to teach the horse this, to enable him etc.
For you? Back to simple Cavaletti work and (probably also?) first learn to ride/jump in Rythmus.
A really good RL is always a help here.

pony
2 years ago
Reply to  Naticora

horses do not jump together and also not in “extension”. so a horse cannot tax and jumps sometime and then hectic. the horse tries to tax and above draws the rider and is behind the movement.

Hjalti
2 years ago

What does your coach say? Never jump alone anyway. And not without technical instructions.

Other bite will not judge – neither the horse nor you are currently able to jump. Prepare horse wisely and build up – and you good lessons! All else is Murks & endangers your health.

CarosPferd
2 years ago

You can’t reach Bascule by pulling the horse over the jump! You have completely misunderstood movements. The more you stop the horse, the more it pushes the back away, becomes unrythical, fights against the hand. The more you disturb, the less you get bascule.

What kind of training does the horse have? How old? What’s going on?

What are you riding in the dressage? What are your typical mistakes? How is the preparation for jumping and how the first jumps?

Please come away from the thought of wanting to put the horse in a position, you realize that it will only free itself and you will crush him accordingly in the mouth. If you would use a sharper bite now, the chances are high that you jump the horse mad. You then keep as much firm as you do now, the horse is getting out of pain caused by the then sharply acting bite, no longer tearing free (it tears free because it needs freedom of movement!), so it will completely scratch, hold the back, no longer get up front, hold back. And if you put the horse so ugly a few times before the jump, without balancing the necessary freedom, then the horse will get mad.

Please understand that horses are not forced to bascule by tightening. They show their best jump with well-trained muscles, freedom of pain, good rhythm, beautiful distance and a soft gently accompanying rider that absolutely does not bother over the jump.

This is for you: back to Basics. About the galopp work (soft independent hand condition) again via kavaletti. Riding good paths, giving good distance, finding good rhythm, not learning to disturb horse. If you can ride with dosed leg and soft hand kavaletti and cavaletti strings, then it can jump again.

pony
2 years ago
Reply to  CarosPferd

AMEN!

CarosPferd
2 years ago
Reply to  pony

Thank you