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Spikeman197
1 year ago

Even they are not really ‘stable’! There are also no real applications, or significant quantities! The ‘stability’ and quantities are just enough for proof!

The half-life of Oganesson is 0.89 ms. Detection can be achieved through the products of an alpha case! The quantity is not sufficient for further investigations.

TomRichter
1 year ago
Reply to  Spikeman197

> Even they are not really ‘stable’!

There is the assumption that in order numbers beyond the 160 there are again stable(re) elements.

https://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/wissen/article187931278/Eine-Minute-Physik-Insel-der-Stabilitaet.html

ZitrusLiebe
1 year ago

Stable? No way.

In the Nineties there were speculations on stable, undetected natural elements on the earth, but they were dissolved in air. The most modern model calculations of atomic nuclei predict a significantly weaker “island of stability”, especially in 114, 120 and 126. We’re talking about seconds instead of milliseconds or microseconds.

For elements beyond the 118 there are neither suitable synthesis routes nor technical installations.

The hardest elements with which aqueous chemistry can be operated are fermium and mendelevium.

Spikeman197
1 year ago
Reply to  ZitrusLiebe

Hmm, isn’t my specialty, but what should devices and ways of the next elements differ from the last 6 elements? Mergers are produced in particle accelerators and hopes that something new and detectable is created!?

Only now are the quantities, rather number of manufactured isotopes and half-life soo tiny that you need more and more experiments to find something!

‘spanning’ is also in that the next element is in the 8th. Period would stand! However, it is naturally chemically and spectroscopically irrelevant, since one could never operate chemistry with it and therefore the orbitals of the 8th. Shawl cannot really be investigated!

I can’t judge whether you’ve been counting ‘stable’ elements on each side of uranium. But you might tend to be ‘threat’ if you find something and can prove it at all!

ZitrusLiebe
1 year ago
Reply to  Spikeman197

Yield and beam density are not sufficiently high today (“barn”). Each previous element was already the limit of the technically possible. And then the detection must take place in the μs range. Dubna’s coming up. As it looks in Darmstadt and Berkeley, it remains to be seen. A lot of research money and benefits are more likely not to be fetched with new elements.

It’s not like you haven’t tried to make all the elements up to 127! Only most reactions are too “hot”, have too small a cross section or simply do not work.

The following video about Victor Ninow and fake data is quite worth seeing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe5WT22-AO8

I would also like to see a chemistry of (stable?) Viewing elements 120 and 126, it closes realistically but out.

ZitrusLiebe
1 year ago

It’s not that easy again. The detectors cannot exceed a specific beam density. Secondly, the reactions must be as asymmetrical as possible in order to succeed. Meaning, milligram Berkelium or Californium is required. Thirdly, the neutron-rich isotopes eventually go out.

Spikeman197
1 year ago

Thx for the info…

Sounds for me in the end only after ‘more of it’ (larger, more energy and performance) and not after ‘complete new ways’…

ThomasJNewton
1 year ago

What we can do here on Earth with particle accelerators is easily surpassed by colliding neutron stars. If there were stable cores beyond the order number 118, you could find a few.

Tannibi
1 year ago

Nobody knows. Didn’t Sheldon Cooper find one?