Wieviel Hafer für 450kg Pferd?
Hallo,
Ich wollt einfach mal in die Runde fragen wieviel Hafer ihr einem 450kg Pferd füttern würdet? Er wird ganz normal gearbeitet. 2-3 Mal in der Woche reiten (Dressur und ein paar Sprünge), der Rest Bodenarbeit, Longe, Stangentraining und spazieren gehen. Er ist 6-jährig und steht ca. 8 Stunden täglich auf der Weide, steht in der Box auf Stroh, kriegt Heu und frisst Hesta-Mix Classic von St. Hippolyt. Ich hab mich für den Schwarz-Gold-Hafer von Marstall entschieden. Dieser empfiehlt mindestens 1kg täglich für ein Pferd. Allerdings finde ich das ziemlich viel… zumindestens sieht es viel aus 😀 Ist das eine normale Menge, sollte ich eher reduzieren oder auf den Hersteller hören? Ich will einfach nur nicht dass mein Pferd hohl dreht wegen überschüssiger Energie durch zu viel Hafer…
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So I definitely wouldn’t recommend the 1kg ration because your horse doesn’t work a lot. We feed our 12-year-old little horse around a quarter of Schippe Hafer 3x a day(are quite small, so not the big ones). As long as your horse doesn’t really work much and much more energy I wouldn’t feed too much oats. He also gets strength food and doesn’t need much oats. Would limit me to a small amount 50g maybe so about 3 times a day so on the day 150g oats. But if he doesn’t do much he doesn’t need much else you only have an energy-charged pony which is difficult to control.
LG
Do you have the feeling that your horse is too slippery? Or do you want to change from Hesta Mix to oats?
What your horse works doesn’t sound very exhausting. For that it should be able to draw its energy from the hay. If not yet, this can be increased instead of the trough feed.
You should start small with oats. A hand, then 2 hand, until you have found the appropriate quantity and can then adjust it after stress.
For example, if I have a long ride the next day with a lot of gallop, Hafer brings at least 12 hours before fed the necessary energy directly in. Or about an hour later, there’s something else. So you can play a little bit about it with the crowd.
When jumping, more energy would be desirable. He lacks a bit 🙂 the oats should be a supplement to the Hesta Mix (Pellets)
Then the Hesta Mix read away, that makes horses more slap than peppy
Composition:
Barley flakes, Lucerne chops, Wheat stick, oat peel glue, oil seed mixture (leaf, sunflowers, fennel seeds, black cumin seeds) 7.2%, apple pomace, maize seeds 4.5%, herbs (grain, sage, fennel, marjoram, peppermint) 4.2%, beet fibres, corn flakes, grape peel, calcium carbonate (maritim)
Look at the mix, you wouldn’t feed it anymore.
Why barley, what brans? Why sugar, what are these herbs for? Why oil?
Feeders prefer pure beer yeast and mifu, then the horse has more of it.
Then start with a hand and look for several days, whether you need more or not.
Perhaps the horse is missing only force from the backhand when jumping;)
It’s all right – keep feeding stuff like this – it’s none of my business. What I see in the food I wouldn’t even put in my horse in my dream.
So I’ve been driving very well with this food, which is supposed to make it slap… my horse got the blue sacks of Lavisano (Gurbe) from the previous owner, where it’s supposed to be just what nature wants…. on my horse, this was expressed in brittle hooves, blunt fur, overweight, mauke and constant radiance. The Hesta Mix Müsli contained much too much sugar and starch. However, since we feed the Hesta Mix pellets (Classic), his mistress has become totally thick and long. His fur shines, he got a great figure, the hooves have improved very much and I finally got the beams away! So it doesn’t seem bad what’s in there. That wasn’t even my question…
I’m not a feeder, but that doesn’t sound like your horse needs oats… Riding 2-3 times a week is actually nothing for a 6-year-old horse. The boys have plenty of power from themselves, so you don’t have to feed oats – except you work a lot with the horse, so you need the energy (which is not necessarily the case with most recreational horses…).
Is this oat treated by Marstall somehow (squashed, melassed etc.)? If so, I wouldn’t feed it anyway. It’s better to buy unquetted oats at the Raiffeisen.
I bought quite normal oats, just at the Raiffeisen, he gets it when we really worked properly. I always do this depending on the stress. Otherwise, he gets green oat (has not so much energy as only the plant, not the grain) and his mineral food. That’s enough.
My Traber ran active race at the time, getting about 10kg oats per day (not quite sure…). But he was driven or ridden several times a day and ran 1-2 races on the weekend. Then the horse will not be spiny if it can consume the energy again. A horse that just stands out would e.g. turn up much more than one that is always working.
But if you were to talk to an expert or your trainer, what he thinks. Oats is still better than some, stuffed with molasses, mueslis….
I actually wanted to feed the oat more because it’s totally healthy. Rightly dosed he should not “stitch” the horse, as is often claimed. Only I am unfortunately very uncertain with the dosage 😀 The oat is not melassed or squeezed. From the quality he’s really top. I also made the test with the water glass and so.
I would start with a little and then raise, so I did. My work is about the same amount, is 18 and 1.47m and weighs around the 400/430kg – which gets 2 shots a day, extra she does nothing and something special (Tunier, special training.) even a little more. I would generally leave the muesli and instead give oats + mineral food. Müsli is very unhealthy, full of sugar and unnatural :)! Instead, simply start with a handful of oats + additives and then increase until it has “enough” energy. If he then “turns” you can give less ‘
Thank you:) He doesn’t get tired. These are pellets. Significantly less sugar and starch
Oats are fed as needed and after work (you know what the animal has done and how much you have to fill up) you don’t just feed oats like that.
One hour of work = no oat only Mifu or a juice fodder licker (apple, or carrot)
Two hours work = approx. worth 200 to 400 g oats, depending on what he really did.
Two hour heavy work such as jumping or pulling = up to 1 Kg oats.
All the other muesli and co leave completely, that doesn’t need a horse and hurts more.
The manufacturers pack so much in the horse because they want to earn a lot, a stinky oat from the land trade costs 25 kg bag between 9 and 14 euros and is completely sufficient. In the Scharzhafer is nix different than in the gold yellow.
hay, straw, pasture, and mineral fodder as a basic fodder is completely sufficient for normal movement – one can also demand an hour of performance.
Then there is only oats in the game and all the grain and all the normal oats from the region.
Best answer! DH!
Why should the horse get oats? For 24 h, this is over 10 h for 8 h pastures, which your horse spends in the box and cannot move enough. To do this, a rather manageable work programme – there is no need for power. And also the muesli you can leave dry, with 8 h pasture, sufficient hay + good mineral food your horse is well supplied with food.
So without power feed, I could kick my horse into the ton 😀 he is not a bundle of energy. I wanted to feed the oat because it’s just very healthy and a bit more energy when jumping would be desirable… he doesn’t get tired. The Hesta Mix Classic are pellets, with significantly less sugar and starch
Composition of your muesli:
Barley flakes, Lucerne chops, Wheat stick, oat peel glue, oil seed mixture (leaf, sunflowers, fennel seeds, black cumin seeds) 7.2%, apple pomace, maize seeds 4.5%, herbs (grain, sage, fennel, marjoram, peppermint) 4.2%, beet fibres, corn flakes, grape peel, calcium carbonate (maritim)
Barley flakes, wheat bran, oat peel glue, apple pomace, corn germ, corn flakes, barley germs, wheat germs do not belong to the horse. Don’t worry.
I have the pellets 🙂 it is not a muesli… Hesta Mix is available as muesli or pellets. The pellets have much less sugar and starch. My horse had great problems at first, caused by food. He got Lavisano (Gurbe). Since he gets the food from Hippolyt, he has visually become another horse
My horses run a quite similar pensum as yours and weigh around 450 kg.
One wallach gets zero strength because he doesn’t need it. He draws his energy from hay, 3-4 h pasture plus MiFu.
The other has a multi-month illness behind him, in which he was severely aborted and his capacity was significantly reduced. I feed it to O.G. feeding every 2nd day 0.5 kg of unquetted normal oat with shot oil. He doesn’t need KraFu before his illness.
At the workload, a handful of oats is completely sufficient after work.
If your horse is not a bad food exploiter (without food he would decompose), he does not need muesli or oats at work.