Wieso verstehen viele nicht, dass Selbstständigkeit nicht unbedingt viel Zeit kosten muss?

Ich kenne viele und höre das auch andauernd, dass ja jeder Selbstständige und Unternehmer 60+Wochenstunden hat und wenig verdient.

Das ist am anfang die ersten paar Jahre vielleicht so, aber nach ein paar Jahren arbeitet man deutlich weniger -oder man entscheidet sich dazu gleich viel zu arbeiten und verdient dadurch viel mehr.

Zu denken dass jeder Selbstständige 40 Jahre 80h Wochen kloppt ist einfach Realitätsfern. Das ist evtl der Fall bei Leuten die nicht in der Lage sind zu skalieren… sprich ohne Geschäftssinn.

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Rat2010
8 months ago

I think that for many of the different greens a self-employment is not possible. It has a lot to do with willingness to take risks and again with obligations that have to be dealt with.

To do this, you should not underestimate that the type of employee also knows people who have social contacts and a lot more that you have as a self-employed person only outside work is more important than the time you spend on it.

I know, for example, people who seem to be working for it so that they can go to work with the car every day. Others are the spears and flights around the world important.

I made myself independent 27 years ago and, of course, I had much more time from the beginning for the important things of life. In fact, a lot of time. Until I earned more than before, it took three years to make it a few years later.

I can confirm that many false ideas have. It is really very simple and has almost only advantages.

heurekaforyou
8 months ago

You say a lot – but you say nothing!

I know many and I hear that all the time,………

Make a concrete statement.

How many do you know who keep telling you that self-employed people work a lot and earn little?

You say:

This is perhaps the case at the beginning of the first few years, but after a few years you work significantly less -or you decide to work a lot and earn a lot more.

Such comparisons are merely proof that you have not really dealt with the topic of business creation.

Tips: You should not use any foreign words if you do not know their actual meaning.

You say:

To think that every self-employed is knocking for 40 years 80h weeks is simply a reality. This may be the case with people who are unable to scale… i.e. without business sense.

What does it mean to scale a company?

In the business economy, scaling means that a company is growing without the need for greater investment or higher fixed costs. This increases both the turnover and profit of the company.

In this context, scalability means the expansion capability of a business model.

When is a company scalable?

To be able to scale a company particularly well, the business model ideally has the following features:

  • Low asset (Asset light)
  • No or little physical capacity limits due to production facilities or limited resources
  • Low fixed costs
  • High share of variable costs
  • Widest automation of processes and processes
  • Expansion into other countries and markets
  • Strong marketing and sales strategies

https://www.cplace.com/glossar/scaling/#:~:text=In %20of the%20Business Economy%20Determines%20Scaling,column%20Expansionsf%C3%A4Human%20Ssh%C3%A4ftsmodel.

My personal opinion is:

In your view, only working hours and merit are related to each other.

However, the success of a company is entirely different:

  • A Vision
  • Passion
  • Decision
  • Endurance
  • Discipline

Who wants to earn money to earn his living and earn pension entitlements can have that much easier.

And successful entrepreneurs who have earned more money than they can ever spend in life do not rest on their billions, but still continue to work, or start completely different projects.

Money comes from alone – or not at all.

I’m afraid you don’t say where you’re referring your business.

It is striking, however, that you question your claims yourself.

It’s like that. But perhaps and possibly different.

My tip:

Work with the biographies of successful companies.

SkinBlackaWhite
8 months ago
Reply to  heurekaforyou

Thank you very much, I see.

heurekaforyou
8 months ago

Nice weekend!

SkinBlackaWhite
8 months ago

So first of all, there has to work, it is no coincidence that some fail with their self-employment sooner or later. If your business doesn’t run well, there’s nix back.

You have to be made for yourself, for some that can work, for others not.

I know very few who can really lean back as self-employed. This of course has several reasons, many simply do not want to give up more money for less effort. Nevertheless, many cannot simply lean back. Those who do this too early also fail.

Look at the successful entrepreneurs and look at how many of them really don’t work much anymore and especially when this is the case.

Don’t forget that you always present a thesis as a fact based on hearing and your opinion. I would recommend you to go to the topics more neutral.

BucksRebirth
8 months ago
Reply to  Bruno00

The ding is that entrepreneurs often agree with me

No, you just ignore the answers that don’t fit you.

UnknownUser293
8 months ago

I’m on my own right now. I don’t have much idea of self-employment, of my work. And it actually costs a lot of time. A project can go well and like a month or two months.

The payment is of course high, but how fast I get through with something depends on my work zeal. I’m in charge of a project, over weeks. Think a lot, adapt, reject ideas. And if I deserve good, it depends on whether I have customers. This can be bad. Then I also have costs for equipment, workstation, etc.

How do you work less after years? This may be the case if you have employees and can shift the work. Do you deserve a lot of money and if so, what?

UnknownUser293
8 months ago
Reply to  Bruno00

I’m just in phase 1, already knowing new customers can be a challenge because you start from 0. For example, my focus is on building a portfolio, and I am just at this moment in the process of talking to companies. It’s not easy, it takes time. And time is known to be money.

Then it comes – and that I know from many colleagues – that customers can often be difficult, for example with regard to price negotiations. Unfortunately, until you have made a certain name, you can only choose your customers to a limited extent.

Website Design, Trading(With Prop Companies) and its own brand, which has so far only cost.

Right, then you know the usual problem. The “My Son could create the website for 100 Euro” customers. Webdesign is – at least I have let it say so – a shark basin. I’m glad you’re going.

UnknownUser293
8 months ago

Amazon FBA stuff? Or dropshipping/affiliate marketing?

Worse, Amazon KDP. I say so, I have really gained many experiences, worked with various tools and also earned money, but it has not been profitable in the long term and the competition has partly worked so immoral that I could no longer.

For example, it is a serious problem that sellers buy reviews and are immoral in ranking on various ways. In this way, customers come directly to their offers in their search. That may sound stupid, but I never did that because I am an honest skin. At some point, I realized that the money can’t finance my living in the long term. In fact, I did everything myself, for example, I only commissioned a fiver artist for the cover.

I think so. It’s very desirable. I wish someone from my circle of friends would have had bock with me, unfortunately no one. But that’s it.

I often believe that people are afraid and I understand that. The confrontation with taxes already deteriorates because there is a certain overbureaucracy in Germany and one is always afraid to make mistakes. Actually, I’ve been such a person until I taught Elster. And you say it yourself, trading must be learned.

I have also often tried to persuade people in my environment enough to learn my “works” with which I want to start with: many lack the permanence, even if there is interest. You know it yourself, you have headaches from learning, but you go through and eventually it makes sense. I believe that many cannot exceed this point.

UnknownUser293
8 months ago

All right, absolutely no front. Having tried out a business thing about Amazon for the past few years, has worked well for a time, honestly, but in the long term it was not what made me succeed. I think, regardless of your studies, you just have to be active, staying at the ball: constantly thinking. I have sent an example project today, so I can now rest:D

And yes, these coaches etc are funny. Clearly, spiritual strength is ultra important, with me it is also primarily the desire to build up something and let others participate in it. I believe that the idea of working with other capable people and pursuing a goal will be very fulfilling in the long term. For example, I’m joking cars 0, I don’t need much. I’m investing my money in my equipment and in people I love.

UnknownUser293
8 months ago

I’ll take a look, thank you.

Yeah, just scaling. Beginning at 10-20% and at some point at 50%. As I said, it is unprofessional not to take.

Definitely, I’ll start. I think if you don’t attach any value to your own work, then others won’t appreciate the work.

I’m telling you, it’s a rough attitude. Not many. You’re making it a big one.

Thank you, I hope so. My advantage is that I don’t have an ego. I ask a lot of questions and don’t pretend I’m more than me. In return, I have to tell you that your answers show me you’re not a labback. Don’t misunderstand me, but I’m sure you noticed that some are a little more embarrassment than being in business. After the motto “Fake it till you make it”. But I have talked to many successful entrepreneurs and your answers reflect their 1:1, from you the experience speaks.

UnknownUser293
8 months ago

Definitely, I’ll handle it. I’m telling you, my skills are now at a fairly high level, because I’ve put a lot of work in expanding my skills over years. This is the advantage I have in the meantime. But first I have to bake small rolls and prove myself.

It is also very important – and even professional – to demand a advance of yes evtl 10-20%. Then you could (theoretically, even if I don’t recommend it) accept such orders.

Jap, I’ve been saying that. For correct orders, I will always take an advance, the known people even take 50% advance, but they are also nameful and established.

You realize that you have no idea 😅 because money you hardly need to work with Prop companies. But don’t matter, you have to know your business and entrepreneurship.

I always say, as long as I have a lifetime, I learn. In 5 years, I can be on a completely different level in terms of knowledge, alone with your question here, I wrote up somewhere in the deepest “Trading”. Currently, it is not relevant to me, but it cannot hurt.

No offense but I advise you to stay with your current skill set that you master. Trading is called 2-4 years at least (or longer) to make losses until you can. Is one of the hardest business in the world. Depending on the study, it creates 1-5%.

No, it’s okay. I am a very self-critical person, I can realistically assess myself. Sometime in the future, I’m sure I’ll deal with it, but I’m currently focusing on 100% on what I can.

UnknownUser293
8 months ago

I’ll remember. So far I have only gained positive experiences, now I am talking to a company, the answer I probably get next week. Let’s see!

UnknownUser293
8 months ago

Can confirm your statements 100% because I am much in contact with people who earn really good and work in my industry. And they say that, work must be rewarded.

I would never work with private persons, even because my industry does not provide for this. I got a couple of offers from private people and locked up directly, ideally still somewhere from the USA, where I know that I’m done and then just blocked.

I honestly said GAR NO plan. Just because I lack the money. But I will reinvest the money I earn from my self-employment as meaningful as possible. In real estate from family property, but also in other things. Trading could be an option to look.

I’m also thinking about building a company abroad at some point. There are employees cheaper and I could spare a lot of time, but this is just a naive thought.

Xandros0506
8 months ago

Why don’t many understand that self-employment doesn’t have to cost much time?

And why don’t you understand that it usually does?

but after a few years you work much less – or you decide to work a lot more and earn a lot more.

So…
Less work = let customers wait -> result is that go to competition.
Working a lot and earning more just when you constantly raise your prices. And then every customer will tell you that you will be replaced by a cheaper competitor.

OhoshiYamazuki
8 months ago

I know a few self-employed with companies that make several millions a year. Part of companies with 300 employees. Nobody leans back and says, “I only do 20 hours a week.” My current chef (45) has been independent for 15 years with a small, very specialized company. Our customers are also premium brands (watches, cars, weapons). There’s nix nix with “not cost much time.” He works most

OhoshiYamazuki
8 months ago
Reply to  Bruno00

Everyone has to know for themselves. My current chef said he didn’t want to be anyone who’s only in his kabuff and counts money

HappyMe1984
8 months ago

You already put up a hypothesis on your question, which is simply not true. The vast majority of people are aware that the intensive work refers to the construction phase until the shop is running so well that people can be hired who lose work. Until then, “self and constantly.”

But this is usually not the main reason why people decide against self-employment. More relevant is that self-employment is an enormous risk. Sure, a risk with the chance that it’s going really well and you can earn far above average. But just so with the chance that one completely calculates, the business idea that one had not worked and then one finds oneself in front of an enormous debt mountain. And just want this risk and can’t all take it.

SirKermit
8 months ago
Reply to  Bruno00

An individual entrepreneur always bears the full risk, because he is liable with all his assets, whether private or commercial. It also carries possible risks from product liability or if customers do not pay the goods or services provided.

malteabc
8 months ago
Reply to  Bruno00

This is also a myth that I hear again and again. By far not every business leaves nen debt mountain.

What genuine independence does not leave a mountain of debt if it does not work?

heurekaforyou
8 months ago
Reply to  HappyMe1984

You put it to the point. SUPER!

HappyMe1984
8 months ago

I can only explain these relationships to you, but they don’t understand for you. Therefore, joa, wish you a nice weekend!

HappyMe1984
8 months ago

By the way, I did not study (at least not BWL). Professionals are in the commercial sector what are masters in crafts. Speak, intern! People who have completed vocational training with a corresponding proportion of practice in the field then have worked in practice in this profession and then, in addition to continuing vocational training, visit a training course in the evening and on the weekend in order to take the appropriate examination at the IHK.

So please don’t tell me that I only learned anything in theory, it’s the exact opposite;). And, as I pointed out above, it is not about any theories, but rather about simple calculations and relationships that in the real world in practice in the free economy are as they are…

malteabc
8 months ago

You haven’t arrived in reality for a long time. However, as a main student, it is not possible to think so far, otherwise it would have been possible to use free education until the full year.

HappyMe1984
8 months ago

You always need a credit for initial investment if you don’t have the money for it yourself as reserves. And even if you have the money theoretically, the wise BWLer will check to what extent foreign capital may be the better option due to the so-called leverage effect.

If you plan your product or service in such a way that there is an interest in it only from a certain level of income, you can sharpen your market. Say, if your offer is only interesting for people in quite high grades, you have less potential customers. And as you always have to assume that not 100% of the possible customers are actually becoming customers, you have to look carefully if the remaining customers are still sufficient.

Or sometimes as a rough example of clarification: a product finds 10,000 buyers for 10 euros. Means you have revenues of 100,000 euros for the price of 10 euros. If you’re buying the same product for 20 euros, 6000 buyers don’t want to have it anymore, they’re too expensive. Therefore, despite the higher price due to the shrinking market, you only take up 80,000 euros. Few customers who pay a high price are therefore often not as rewarding as many customers who only buy at a slightly lower price!

And how marketing works, how to deal with customers and all the other relationships and calculations that I have given you here as a short outline, you should know and be able to know and understand a self-employment! For example, by learning a profession and working in it. Or at least in which you visit basic courses for founders.

And yes, I think I really know better than you. I am an economic expert. So these things are literally my profession!

HappyMe1984
8 months ago

Your mentioned ideas are all those who offer little chance to get away from “self and constantly”. They all require an initial investment to acquire the necessary resources. They all have a potentially quite small customer group, as all these offers are based on a “Make or buy” decision of potential customers, in which the decision for most of them is “to make the same”.

Your marketing strategy with “Social Media” is also only limited to these companies, as these are very locally limited active offers, while social media is in turn a channel which, rather, ensures highly supra-regional dissemination.

This is the primary ideas that provide a whole lot of “self and constantly”. If they discard enough at all to deduct taxes, acquisitions and operating costs, as well as contributions to sickness and, where appropriate, Pension insurance can still live. Especially as a self-employed person, it is still necessary to calculate that, with what one deserves on a job, one must also finance periods in which one deserves nothing – for example through illness, lack of jobs or if one wants to make a holiday a week for recovery. What in turn makes the prices for these offers quite nicely high when you calculate the clean. What in turn – see above – leads to a decision for “Make” in even more people.

In the employee relationship, however, one does not have to worry about illness. You don’t have to plan that you don’t get orders for several days, weeks or even months. You paid at least four weeks a year holiday. You are completely socially insured. And you know what’s on the account at the end of the month. All these collaterals are all the more important, the more one takes responsibility for one’s own life and, if necessary, the other – partner, children, pets etc.

And that is precisely why many prefer precisely this kind of money earning of self-employment with the much higher risk.

SirKermit
8 months ago

Is everything that is risky.

Since I am talking about the legal conditions, this is not a matter of view, but a reality. You can ignore it, but that doesn’t interest the creditors and the tax office.

He’s taking a little risk, and then?

Do you want to keep playing pigeon chess or just rolling around?

malteabc
8 months ago

Where can I get the customers? There are too many providers that are interdependent.

For car lease, I need income first. Chaffeur is no longer present. It’s too expensive for companies. Taxi drivers have been fighting for survival since the sick transports are very severely restricted.

DerFragendeElch
8 months ago

This is the human psyche..

People who do not dare: look for excuses with which they find themselves to rule out an exhausting self-employment for themselves.

Or they know people who have themselves goal-workers, but important; Self-employment is not self-employment.

Make a difference whether you are a craftsmanship or a software company where you hire employees + managing directors.

I’m sure you work much less from a certain point.

myzyny04
8 months ago

You haven’t understood it yet. Self-working still means working yourself and constantly.

If you don’t do that, you’ll fall on the snout with your self-employment.

heurekaforyou
8 months ago
Reply to  myzyny04

You’re right.

As you can see, however, the relationships do not seem to be understood properly.

Like a child caught in the cookie box with his hand:

Much blababla from someone who has no idea…. funny. Always the same.

BucksRebirth
8 months ago

To make such statements for ALL self-employed, even though the (fictive) own business does not yet run 3 years and there is no knowledge about the business economy.

Measuring

Not serious

Ridiculous