Wie viel Sauerstoff verbrennt eine Atom-Bomben-Explosion?

Wie viel Sauerstoff wird ca. bei einer 10-Kilotonnen verbrannt?

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LORDderANALYSE
2 years ago

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Actually, no oxygen is needed for the explosion of an atomic bomb.

Although “burning” of oxygen can occur, it does not have to, e.g. in vacuum, an atomic bomb can rise, but there is no oxygen aka because we “burn” your oxygen.

However, if you ignite the atomic bomb into a forest or similar, you can already say goodbye to the oxygen in the forest… (probably you can also say goodbye to the forest)

Declaration

In the explosion of an atomic bomb, no chemical reactions such as the combustion of oxygen are denied. It is a purely physical process in which various core reactions (such as the fission and/or fusion) take place, but no chemical reactions or even oxygen are necessary for these reactions.

LORDderANALYSE
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

I could bet that an A-explosion under water is much smaller than on the surface or in space, the product will not behave as much as on earth.

Correct. Under water, the explosion would be significantly weaker than on the earth’s surface, based on which the air pressure on the earth’s surface is smaller than the water pressure under water, both of which have an effect on the explosion.

Just because something isn’t included, it doesn’t mean that something else isn’t involved.

Jap. However, no oxygen is necessary. This is also made clear by the invoice, since the oxygen is already included in it.

We’ve got something like that. 21% oxygen in the world, anywhere

Nope… About 1000 atoms in the universe are 900 hydrogen atoms, which makes up 90% of all atoms alone. Pure logic excludes this.

The indication would only apply to the Earth’s atmosphere in certain regions.

and fire needs oxygen to be there and grow…

Yes, fire needs oxygen (or another oxidant) to grow. A fire is maintained by chemical reactions.
In an atomic explosion, however, no chemical reactions are involved, but only physical

However, an “atom explosion” is not a fireball, but particles which release enormously much energy, which naturally makes them warmer and begin to radiate light. This light radiance is visually a fireball, but it is not a fireball.

Examples:

It is similar to our sun. There’s almost no oxygen in her.
Still, she looks like a giant fireball. The reason for this is precisely the nuclear reaction, the nuclear fusion, as is also carried out in hydrogen bombs.

If you want a real example without oxygen, a supernova (the explosion of a massive star) would be a good example:
No oxygen has to be present in a mass-rich star. Nevertheless, he goes up at the end of his “life”.
The luminosity of the star increases million to billions, it becomes as bright as an entire galaxy for a short time.
And that without oxygen.

AllesIsi98
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

So oxygen doesn’t burn first. A combustion is an exothermic redox reaction in which an energy-rich reducing agent is oxidized by oxygen, which is thereby reduced. Oxygen is the oxidizing agent, not the fuel.

Consequently, your comment is simply technically wrong.

On the other hand, a match is obviously a fuel that is burned by oxygen. A nuclear bomb is not a fuel.

Thirdly, we do not have 21% oxygen everywhere in the atmosphere. As the height increases, the average molar mass of the air decreases. Oxygen has a molar mass of 32 g/mol, i.e. is comparatively large, and with increasing height the oxygen content also decreases.

Lastly, alkali metals and alkaline earth metals are so strong reducing agents that they themselves can reduce carbon dioxide. So it is not necessary to keep oxygen alive in order to burn.

AllesIsi98
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

The oxygen can in fact decompose into atoms at these temperatures and be partially ionized or, in other words, plasma is formed. However, the ionized oxygen will then directly react again, and oxygen molecules and nitrogen gases will probably be formed again. That’s what it was.

AllesIsi98
2 years ago

Oxygen is not the same as hydrogen, you nose.

myotis
2 years ago

A nuclear bomb is nuclear fission, which has (for itself) NOT to do with oxygen, fire, combustion or the like!

The following(!) Fires consume oxygen, but they could also be caused by flashing, short circuit or conventional bombs…

myotis
2 years ago
Reply to  myotis

By the way, the ignition kit of the atomic bomb is explosive, has its oxidizing agent already in itself and therefore no air oxygen is needed for this…

What do you have with all your oxygen questions??

Rhenia
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

inert gas welding also works without oxygen😌

myotis
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

You’re bringing some things together (intentionally?)

A firewood consumes a lot of oxygen… However, according to your “logic” one would have to add the oxygen that the fire of a complete forest is consumed if one keeps said match only in the “right” place…

But that’s Mumpitz!

Combustion is not dependent on a temperature, but rather as oxidation, i.e. as i.d., clearly exothermic chemical reaction…

The sun is also hot, yet it burns up pure nix, but it runs out of nuclear fusion…

The nuclear reaction is a (intentionally) uncontrolled chain reaction of nuclear fissions and which runs completely independent of the presence of oxygen, air or anything else, i.e. in space, under water or underground…

All the other are physically and chemically independent follow-up events, so to speak the forest fire in the above-mentioned strikewood example – are (of course) in the responsibility of the bomb igniter, but are never part of the atomic bomb explosion as such…

Now understandable?

myotis
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

I don’t say that – tell me what’s your (misunderstanding) problem?

myotis
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

Did I read – but you didn’t? Air burns like it is not with us!! In very small quantities, nitrogen oxides are produced by flashes, but a few com besidedran is already over again…

By the way your answers (“I would say yes, because hydrogen is present and which splits into hydrogen and oxygen, and that is already from a heat development of 1,700°C!The hydrogen obtained from water splits from 1,700° C., which is already solid…” etc.) are still the same scam – with permission – with which we started here…

Hydrogen does not split, even in view itself AND oxygen…

And the division of water from 1700 degrees – see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/hydrogen production#Thermische_Dissoziation – doesn’t work as easy in the wild as you imagine!

If the hydrogen is not immediately separated from the oxygen by membranes, they are immediately reconnected…

So what is the profit of having only hot air in the truest sense? Even if there is some hydrogen and oxygen separated at short notice, it is the same steam as before… So it burns nix!!

myotis
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

What do you want to split hydrogen?! The core is made of ONE proton, there is no…

So I can start with the temperature 1,700 degrees nic, where did you get that from?

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Man#Structure consists of berryllium, plotonium and uranium – what does this have to do with hydrogen?

I don’t know where you got the temperature of 6,000 degrees.

Let’s go. https://www.geo.de/amp/wissen/23157-rtkl-atombomb ejection-before-75-year-old-attack-on-nagasaki-als-fat-man-ten000

“Fat Man is a plutonium bomb with even greater explosive power than the Hiroshima bomb. Within 0.1 milliseconds turns it into a fireball, 15 meters wide and 300 000 degrees Celsius hot.”

myotis
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

Another (last) time: you talk about (unimaginable) heat, which is what Other like the burning chemical reaction of oxidation!

Period.

So get stuck and good night!

myotis
2 years ago

It splits at 1700 degrees, but with some cooling the components react again to water – before that the same…

myotis
2 years ago

The boiling point https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfram is close to 6000 degrees = it is then in the form of a gas…

The question, however, goes back:

  • What is 6000 degrees hot?
  • The atomic bomb explosion is more viiiiiel
  • Even a flash already has 30,000 degrees
  • But these are only small rooms, air is very well isolated and the temperatures take off very quickly at a distance…
  • High temperatures alone say nix
  • How many more?
myotis
2 years ago

The fact that energy is released in all three cases and that heat is generated is clear…

And WENN is a bit combustible nearby, it burns (in the sense of redox reactions)…

ABER the atomic mushroom is like the volcanic smoke column or the firestorm only ONLY hot air, because nix can burn: nitrogen is in the atmosphere i. W. inert and water vapor does not burn…

Even WENN was burning (Hieroshima on the ground…) this is not part of the atomic explosion but FOLGE… – finally understand and begin to separate the physical and chemical processes…

If oxygen consumption is part of the atom explosion, this could not take place without oxygen – which is definitely not that!

The sun has no oxygen at all, so it cannot burn i. S. a redox reaction – that does not mean that the fusion ran endlessly…

Another name for nuclear fusion is, fortunately, “hydrogen burning” in our context, but it is NOT the oxyhydrogen gas reaction (2 H2 + O2 -> 2 H2O)! During the fusion, hydrogen is “consumed” and helium is produced (4 H -> 2 He in a plasma)…

At the end of the process (after many millions or billions of years) the so-called https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heliumburn a: from a total of 3 helium-4-cores, carbon is produced via an unstable beryllium isotope …

myotis
2 years ago

Oh haue haue haue…

You really think that?

Okay, another try:

  • Hydrogen is H2
  • H2O is water and this consists of hydrogen (here the name) and oxygen
  • In the sun, hydrogen (1 proton in the atomic nucleus) fuses via intermediate stages of heavy hydrogen (deuterium=1 proton and 1 neutron in the atomic nucleus) and helium-3 (2 protons and 1 neutron in the atomic nucleus) to helium-4 (2 protons and 2 neutrons in the atomic nucleus)
  • This has nothing to do with the cracking gas reaction in which water is formed
  • If you don’t like to believe this, read below https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernfusion#Stellare_Kernfusion
  • And in contrast https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knallgas
  • As you say, nuclear fission is about nuclear fission = i.e. the (physical!) Breakdown of the atomic nuclei(!) completely other elements!
  • This also has nix to do with redox reactions, which are chemical(!) Connections (= molecules!) of existing (and permanent!) elements…
  • Can believe or read: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redox reaction
myotis
2 years ago

I think you’ve got a real problem burning the term, right?

Burning in the sense of hot are just three different things here!

Nuclear fusion ≠ Nuclear fission ≠ Chemical oxidation!!

Oxygen is only used in the latter…

Hamburger02
2 years ago

How much oxygen burns an atom bomb explosion?

No one. It would also work in a vacuum.

DerJens292
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

You’re getting closer to the conspiracy. 60,000C.

Didn’t you ask how much 0C it gets warmer on Earth? This releases enormous amounts of energy, which ultimately become heat. With each of the previous 2000 atomic bomb tests.

https://www.atomwaffena-z.info/geschichte/atomweaponstests/list-aller-tests.html

Hamburger02
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

this is not very educational, at an A bomb comes first the light flash and then the huge fireball and pretty much everything evaporated in this sector. This results in a heat of about 6000° Celsius. And in a sun it starts at about 6000° Celsius and in the inner it is 15 million degrees Celsius.

And all of this, oxygen doesn’t matter.

DAMonihoni
2 years ago

6.3 x 10high5 m3 oxygen

DAMonihoni
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

About

DAMonihoni
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

estimated

myotis
2 years ago

He doesn’t check…

Xapoklakk
2 years ago

This depends on what’s being burned by the explosion. Even the open sea is nothing.

AllesIsi98
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

Btw. There is no heat. Energy in the form of heat becomes free, thereby increasing the temperature. Moreover, temperature is not an angle, but a measure of the mean kinetic energy of the particles of a system, i.e. is measured in a temperature unit such as K, °C or also °F, not in °. And last but not least, I’ve never seen anyone write “k°C” in the lab. You don’t. One size always consists of a ZAHL AND an UNIVERSITY. Thus, if, then 1 k°C, it would be better to simply 1000°C or 10^3 °C.

myotis
2 years ago
Reply to  MacroD

Oxygen alone does not burn you, it is an oxidizing agent and the oxidation of a reactant DAS is then burnt…