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Uneternal
1 year ago

If you don’t know about photography and editing, you can spend thousands of euros and your photos won’t be better than with a mobile phone.

The photographer makes the main part of a good photograph, as well as the main part of a good piano concerto of the piano players. So it doesn’t take you to buy a 20,000€ piano if you can’t play. You will play on the expensive piano just as bad as on a 50€ keyboard from the Aldi. And the same applies to an expensive camera.

The photos are even worse with a good camera in the stupidest case, because cameras on the photo only apply very discreet corrections. While a mobile phone works much automatically, for example colors are more saturated, sharply sharpened, skin textures softened and automatically equalizes to dark image parts.

KlecksKeks
1 year ago

Depends on your smartphone camera or what it cannot (e.g. optical zoom, optical image stabilizer, RAW, manual mode) and what kind of photos you want to do or what optics you want to achieve.

Example: I experiment a lot with depth of focus without distortion through wide angle lenses. This cannot be achieved with a smartphone camera in this form. For other motifs, I need a zoom lens. This is also not possible with my current smartphone camera.

I used to drag a heavy camera and two lenses around with me. 50mm and a zoom lens. It’s been too troublesome. Later, I moved to a premium compact camera by Panasonic, which has its strength in recordings with little light.
The advantage: If it has to go fast, e.g. for photos in the family and friends circle, I can also use the automatic program.

The most famous premium compact camera series is Sony RX 100. Such cameras cost from 700€.

The problem with these cameras is that they are very sensitive. You have to take care of everything. Especially with dust.

Also, it is not possible to replace the lenses and the connections (external microphone / flash device etc. are limited or not present). So you have to know exactly what kind of photos you want to take and what is important to you.

From camera systems with interchangeable lenses or cameras with which you have, for example, 30x optical zoom, I would guess – if you haven’t dealt so much with the subject of photography. These require more time of incorporation, more experience and more exercise.

FlorianH246
1 year ago

You can spend as much as you want, without knowledge of photography and editing, it won’t be. In mobile phones, the image is automatically reworked by the phone so it looks good without effort, a camera doesn’t do that, which is why these photos can be disappointing for the first time. But the images of the camera provide much more space for their own processing.

clemensw
1 year ago

90% of a good picture emerges HINTER the camera. And this proportion increases more with the cost of equipment…

You should first get your cell phone camera shot in pro mode? HDR understood and used? Images created and reprocessed in RAW format?

No? Then 5,000€ camera equipment will not help.

On the contrary: Without the AI support in the mobile phone (Beauty mode, motif recognition etc) you will be more disappointed by camera photos…

SirKermit
1 year ago
Reply to  clemensw

because you just called “behind” one of my favorite quotes https://fotoschule.fotocommunity.de/30-schoensten-zitate-zur-fotografie/

The fact that a technically erroneous recording in the conventional sense can be more emotionally effective than a technically faultless image will have a shocking effect on those who are naive enough to believe that technical perfection is the true value of a photograph.

– Andreas Feininger –

clemensw
1 year ago
Reply to  SirKermit

Also very nice:

The equipment we use only plays a small role. Rather, it is important to control it.

– Sam Abell –

Tom704
1 year ago

Top results with a mirror reflex.

If you don’t want to enlarge and hang up the photos, the mobile cameras are enough

Pialesb29
1 year ago
Reply to  Tom704

Mirror reflex cameras are hardly produced yet and have been replaced by mirror cameras

Photon123
1 year ago

There is already a more up-to-date 0815 system camera with kit lens.

Fidreliasis
1 year ago

Nothing, you can only achieve proper photos, because skills are more important than hardware.

Auraweltda
1 year ago

used about 250€…e.g. the Cannon 100D

Auraweltda
1 year ago
Reply to  Sakul777

Yes, clearly

hoermirzu
1 year ago
Reply to  Sakul777

If you want something for your pocket, it’s a misinvestment. A device for kids who want to make a big pants.

Auraweltda
1 year ago

from a pocket, nobody wrote anything here…

MrTuvok
1 year ago

EUR 300 at least.

hoermirzu
1 year ago

I would recommend you a compact camera like Ixus, small, uncomplicated and relatively cheap. Unfortunately, you don’t get any more – thanks to the world economy, Putin, traffic lights, … under € 350,- away.