How much can a Wago terminal theoretically withstand?
Hello,
Watts, volts, amps…somehow I still don't quite understand it.
A Wago 221 terminal with a rated voltage of 450 volts and 32 amps… can it withstand up to 14,400 watts before it smolders, burns, or breaks? Because volts x amps = watts. Or is that a completely wrong way of thinking?
If that were the case, I wouldn't have any problems in a 3600-watt circuit that also includes a Wago terminal. The fuse would blow long before the terminal burned out if I exceeded 3600 watts, or am I wrong?
I read somewhere that a Wago terminal block would have a voltage drop. But with a terminal block's maximum load of 14,400 watts, that wouldn't matter in a 3,600-watt circuit. Or does the Wago terminal block pull down the circuit's 3,600-watt maximum power? And if so, by how much?
I hope this is understandable. I'm not quite sure what's going on yet. Maybe I'm writing complete nonsense here and haven't understood anything at all. So please bear with me 😉
Best regards
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You can’t expect that. This invoice is only accepted if the honeycomb clamp itself is the consumer. And this would burn long before 14.4kW if they heated themselves as consumers, there are already a few watts.
The information must be separated.
The voltage that is indicated here is the voltage that the honeycomb can safely isolate, that is to say up to which the honeycomb prevents a current impact from being applied or a breakdown into other honeycombs or blank metal parts that touch the clamp (e.g. lamp mount) occurs.
The “insulation voltage” has nothing to do with the power.
The current indication refers to the transition resistance that the terminal has. This generates a current-dependent voltage case. And this voltage case, i.e. the loss voltage in the terminal, is the voltage which then also generates power with the flowing current. This means that the terminal does not run too hot if you do not exceed the current specified for the terminal.
This has nothing to do with the consumer who is connected to the wiring with the honeycomb clamps!
The only problem is that each clamping point – whether Wago or not – builds a small resistance into the circuit. If the resistance of the line lengths plus the resistances of the terminals is too high, then not only too much voltage is lost, the consumer gets when it draws a great deal of current, therefore, not only too little voltage, but this can, in extreme cases, lead to the short-circuit current being so limited that protective devices such as line protection switches (“safeties”) and FI/RCD can trigger too late or no longer at all.
Your bill will only come up if you would turn the mains voltage (and consumers) to the maximum insulation voltage that the Wago wears high, then the consumer could also pull the 14.4kW without the clamp itself running too hot.
Oh, okay, very interesting answer. Thank you.
Yes, I would like to confirm. But even with WAGO, it is called “voltage” in its new APP.waste“…. That’s where the neck hairs stick. Programmer stop – nix E-Techniker!
It’s like the elevators.
If there is “Maximal 14 people or up to 800kg”, it does not mean that you can only use the elevator with exactly 14 people weighing 57.14kg.
You can squeeze 14 people in there until you do not exceed 800kg.
The border is what you reach first. The maximum number of persons refers to the size of the cabin, so if the thing remains stuck, how uncomfortable the passengers have. They can’t hold like the sardines in jammed for an hour, so you’re limited to 14 people who can sit down while waiting for rescue.
And for the engine of the elevator, it counts purely the weight. Kilo is Kilo, no matter if and how many people are or just a pallet of stuff on it.
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By the way, you’re the only one who writes “scanning.”
Wow!
All I know are saying and writing “spanning waste”. I’m sure they’ll take him to the valuables farm because they’re environmental conscious.
😁
Empty your tensionwasteDoesn’t a ton off regularly? He stinks when he stands too long!
It is possible to deliver the greens as a “recycling current”.
Oops.
I was wondering where the smell came from.
Thank you.
Uh-uh.
That’s like, like, a stream.
Pass.
Exactly, because electricity is yellow or how was the advertisement back then?
But of course, always in the yellow sack.
The rated voltage ensures sufficient insulation up to this voltage
But the maximum current must not be exceeded!
No matter what tension……
This just depends on this loss voltage at the terminal and the ohmic law……
So.
Ne Wagon is a clamping point.
Let’s call it a screwless spring connection, as there are other manufacturers and other applications (lamps, sockets)
You have a circuit.
Which theoretically corresponds to your specifications.
Practice looks different, of course.
For example, if you connect and turn on a vacuum cleaner.
Start-up current is higher.
Or on the device is a short circuit.
This connection must of course stop because a chain is only as strong as the weakest link, which of course must be the fuse (plant protection)
And this has a triggering characteristic.
In some cases it is possible to construct c20 or d20 with such a connection and nem 2,5mm2.
For continuous load, the connection is of course not intended
And each connection has a power loss. Even a cable. It’s just an ohmic element
Okay, I’ll have to do some more. Just think of me. My buddy wants to put me a three-socket. Just have a circuit. He insulated the cables with Wago. And with the 3 Wago clamps, he wants to install the 3 outlet that came yesterday. Keep a lot of technical devices, mainly keyboards, synthesizers, mixing consoles and other music stuff. Since the sockets have only three inputs (so external conductors, neutral conductors, protective conductors) but no three outputs to install another outlet behind them, he wants to use the Wago clamps. I hope that’s right, and I don’t have a disadvantage.
Please add photo.
So I can imagine.
There are no inputs and outputs in the sense anyway.
But ne (underput) socket has normal, the pol 2 plug-in options for wiring.
But apart from that, it’s fit.
For example, in a garage where it is not so important and splashing is laid, clamping cans with honeycomb clamps are installed.
The “own consumption” of the clamps is negligible
It is only important that consumers do not overload the circuit.
That’s what the fuse is for.
1.5mm2 can only be secured with 13A (against).
Go to continuous load
I’m an electrician.
Your buddy knows.
You could do that, too, because two wires are screwed, but that would be a puff.
As long as he does it with a Wagon or comparable product and not with a gloomy clamp, it’s perfectly okay, you don’t have to worry.
Thank you, too
Thank you, you’re really scaring me. I can lay one or other craftsmen, such as laminate, wallpaper etc. But I don’t know about electricity. I would have trusted one. But beyond, no plan. Thanks again 🙂 Have a nice holiday!
Your buddy’s right to do better with Wago clamps.
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0CGX8XVSR?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_ details
So my buddy has installed his whole house himself the outlets and many others. But he helped me put some rigip plates, and in the end he told a lot, I believed it, and the rigip plates were quite modest, which later made me pretty trouble with the sprinkled joint. That’s why I’m so n Wink skeptical if he couldn’t build crap now. And yes, he’s not from the subject. Link is coming.
It’s very hard to see something, but it looks like you could wire it through.
Please send me a link.
And let me guess, your buddy isn’t from the subject either?
Ok put a picture on top.
The Voltage indication “450 volt rated voltage” The Insulation value the clamp against Contact. This does not relate to any power, because the terminal itself does not represent a significant resistance. It is, after all, a Head and not for one Electricity consumption.
The Load limit the terminal is 32 amperes. When overloaded, the material softens through the heat.
The multiplication of these two sizes does not make any sense here.
a Wago clamp would probably have a loss voltage
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the clamp hits the head (nail).
Once assumed, a voltage of 1 V drops across the terminal.
Then flow through its 32 A, which results loss heat of 32 Watt