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TomRichter
2 years ago

> Whoever makes this about the tax advisor gets that same.

No. Maybe he gets the new basic taxMeasure said. But he does not use anything exactly, even in comparison to the old measuring amount.

The only thing that continues: If you know how your measured amount has changed compared to the other measured amounts of your community. If your average is higher than the average, you expect a higher basic tax.

For this amount of measurement will only be carried out by one of the municipality every year new fixed factor, called lifting set, multiplied. Only when the municipality has set the lifting rate for 2025, in 2024, can you calculate your new basic tax amount.

kegus
2 years ago

I must agree with . The actual amount of the basic tax is not at all fixed before 2024, since the municipalities can only determine the lifting rates when the measuring amounts are known. A task of the reform was to remain essentially neutral. Say, there’s a redistribution.

How a consultant wants to know the exact height is a mystery to me. Unless you apply the old lifting kits, they can change as I said.

Apart from this, the exact amount of the basic tax is in no case found by the tax office. This only determines the basic tax value, as before the basic tax measure. The municipality is responsible for the survey.

The information about the basic tax values will be waiting for you for a while. The majority will probably only go out next year.

TomRichter
2 years ago
Reply to  kegus

> How a consultant wants to know the exact amount already,

I think that the questioner has extrapolated his experiences with the ESt Declaration.

kegus
2 years ago
Reply to  TomRichter

WAAAS? The income tax quadruples from 2025???!!!!???

nee, Späßle XD

But the consultant has a program and the program doesn’t lie, and my friends have said it! (see other answers)

TomRichter
2 years ago

> and the programme does not lie

Yeah, I’ve been reading. And guess now that the measured amount was quadrupled – who knows the difference?

There were programs before I started with EDV the rule GIGO: garbage in -> garbage out

Destik25
2 years ago

The future level of the individual basic tax cannot yet be named, since the values of the land must first be determined. It will probably continue until autumn 2024 until the specific level of the future basic tax is fixed for a large number of taxable persons. By 31 December 2024, the basic tax is still levied on the basis of the unit values.

Destik25
2 years ago
Reply to  christl10

If you give the explanation about Elster, you’ll get a message in which the amount is inside.

NirAuris
2 years ago
Reply to  christl10

then your friends have lied clearly

kegus
2 years ago

The explanations must be dealt with first. A preliminary tax calculation as in income tax is not available for the determination of the basic tax values. The communications will certainly not happen before the end of the year, probably only next year.

Destik25
2 years ago

When did you leave?. Millions of requests are just coming in, which unfortunately can take longer.

Destik25
2 years ago

It’ll take time to get back. This has to be checked after all. Or the tax office wants to receive evidence.

NirAuris
2 years ago

everything that can happen and thus the value of the plot changes

NirAuris
2 years ago

what if the liter of oil tilts into the floor, what if the building collapses? you can’t predict

NirAuris
2 years ago

but what if anything happens to the floor by then? or what happens to the building on the ground?

NirAuris
2 years ago

they are not completely because you can’t know what happened until then

NirAuris
2 years ago

the program can lie when data is incomplete/false and for 2025 the data are clearly still incomplete

NirAuris
2 years ago

you can not yet calculate how high control in 2025 is because this depends on too many variable. you can now set speculations but they do not vote 100%. The people have probably only told about the speculations

NirAuris
2 years ago

Why do you want tax for 2025? we still have 2022

NirAuris
2 years ago
Reply to  christl10

I don’t understand what you want to tell me, before the 2025 tax you have to get the 2023 and 2024 tax and then you can calculate more exactly how in 2025 is

Schl3chteFr4g3
2 years ago
Reply to  NirAuris

Bright view, of course!

kegus
2 years ago

The questioning person is obviously of the opinion that it is possible to calculate the basic tax, which will be payable in 2025, as a result of the declared values. However, this is at least improbable and not for the reason that something can change on the property itself. What is, of course, the case will be adjusted accordingly in the future. However, the height cannot yet be determined because the lifting rates of the municipalities can still change or become.

kegus
2 years ago

The values determined in the course of the main findings on 01.01.2022 are decisive for the first time in determining the basic taxes of 1925. Since a main determination is an extremely complex method, because each economic unit must be detected and evaluated, this takes a correspondingly long time. Therefore, the long lead time. It’s a reason why you haven’t done it since 1964. 😉

NirAuris
2 years ago

yes, but he wants to know for 2025

kegus
2 years ago

For future, but not for the current one that is now in demand. This is also no difference from the previous procedure. The conditions for 01.01.22 are currently in demand. A new value is then determined. If there is a change in the ratios then, as before, a type/value and/or billing advancement takes place, in which the changed ratios are taken into account. This is the difference between main findings and amortization. It is the first main event since 1964 and 1935.

NirAuris
2 years ago

but the change is important for future determinations, or do I understand something completely wrong?

kegus
2 years ago

What happens in half a year is absolutely no longer a matter for the time of detection. This is 01.01.2022 and the conditions on this day are crucial for the current finding. What changes afterwards is taken into account, of course, but does not matter for the main findings.

NirAuris
2 years ago

but I did, but I didn’t understand how you came on cleanin. because your reason can happen without putin

NirAuris
2 years ago

I don’t do, but you don’t understand what I’m saying

NirAuris
2 years ago

When did I talk about putin?

NirAuris
2 years ago

as I said, but what if in a half year n building collapsed? then your ground is worth less. these are variable you don’t know yet

CringePerson12
2 years ago

Oha… I don’t believe you xD that taxes don’t work my dear, let me tell you

NirAuris
2 years ago

ok, it doesn’t matter in Germany. but in Austria, 500€ after 7% infaltion are no longer worth 500€. therefore one must consider inflation

NirAuris
2 years ago

Let’s get something straight. do you come from Austria, Germany or elsewhere?

NirAuris
2 years ago

They don’t know. what if they say in 2025 you have to pay 500€ but then comes up to 300% inflation, then the 500€ would no longer vote