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Of course, the motorcycle does not drive with pure water. It also needs electricity to make hydrogen from the water.
This is already standard in cars. The system is very complicated and naturally needs large batteries. At the moment it is easier to drive with current, but with the known disadvantages at the range. There is also that.
The headline “travel with water” is of course confusing, because in fact the primary energy is electricity.
Tellenone
In particular, I found the description of the Aqwon (a little further down on the website): “His invention: a hydrogen scooter. This made furore at the Hannover Messe Industrie 2003”
And, the whole article is “Fake News”, such scrap is overly written by interns.
Right, if you research a bit with the key data on the web specified in the text, you will find that some well-known and reputable newspapers have reported about it.
Even if you would probably now like to read that the mineral oil industry has “sustained” the supposedly ingenious inventors for obvious reasons, it is quite different. @Tellensohn has already formulated it nicely. If a motor would run simply with pure water, without further energy supply, then it would be a “perpetuum mobile”. Energy can only be generated when reactive substances are brought together. And so that water becomes reactive, it must be converted into hydrogen. This then reacts with oxygen in a so-called “nall gas explosion”. However, water cannot simply be converted into hydrogen, for this purpose energy must be supplied. It is smarter (and probably also more efficient) to invest directly in the drive of the vehicle instead of going a way around – except, you would like to catch up with lay people. I can quite imagine that the above message in certain groups of persons (usually susceptible to conspiracy theories without significant physical knowledge) is likely to be of the highest interest.
Article of 27.04.2003
“On the other hand, a model of Josef Zeitler, owner of the Independent Energy Systems, is permitted by the TÜV. His Aqwon (http://www.aqwon.de) is the world’s first standard hydrogen scooter.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.welt.de/print-wams/article133800/Coole-und-saubere-Mopeds.html
Hydrogen is an ancient hat, the inhabitants of Lakehurst can sing a song of it.
Problem is for the produtcon of hydrogen you need electric current, very much electricity even.
And electric scooter is now really an old hat, you can see on every roadside.
Why not a wind power car?
A ventilator is moved with a car battery and power is then made again with a wind turbine which then drives the motor.
This “water motor wheel” also runs in the same way.
What you’re writing here is Stuss, go somewhere else.
If you have no idea about physics then you’re not helping.
Because hydrogen is very difficult to store (see BMW Hydrogen 7, where after a few weeks the tank is empty), and because it is probably more expensive than gasoline.
I work in a pizzeria. :))
I’ve never claimed anything, just asking why there’s no hydrogen-powered scooter to buy. It can also remind me of an advertisement for the scooter of that time. A carport-like construction was shown on the roof of solar panel underneath the Aqwon. To this end, the price of 5.999 and the statement that hydrogen can be produced by solar modules immediately. If there’s a spell coming from you anyway about “impossible and not going”, I’m sorry, I can’t help you either. Then you should think about when it is time to quit the job at the mineral oil industry.
Fact is: Without energy supply, no object moves on the earth, because the resistors are constantly working against it. This is zig-fold, you don’t have to discuss it. By the way, the TÜV only checks traffic safety, not the plausibility of the product data. The link you added is also clearly described, which makes the vehicle drive: with hydrogen, not with water. This is a relevant difference, because hydrogen reacts very strongly with oxygen. What does water do if it comes into contact with oxygen?
Of course I don’t know, because this is a name for something we haven’t found a plausible model yet. Similarly, we have not found a plausible model for the dark matter of the universe. Well, questions about questions and no answers.
and you don’t have a perpetuum mobile.
You don’t know what TÜV means; Technical surveillance agreement. More about this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.welt.de/print-wams/article133800/Coole-und-saubere-Mopeds.html
the domain you can just buy, not this scooter.
I’d rather stick to Günter Krause, who also swept away from free energy.
You mean you have more idea of matter than the TÜV?
“On the other hand, a model of Josef Zeitler, owner of the Independent Energy Systems, is permitted by the TÜV. His Aqwon (http://www.aqwon.de) is the world’s first standard hydrogen scooter.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.welt.de/print-wams/article133800/Coole-und-saubere-Mopeds.html
An AUto battery splits water into hydrogen, which is then burned in the engine.
It already works, but the efficiency is so ridiculous that it doesn’t make any sense at all. Hanging to the battery directly on an electric motor and you have something you can use halfway practical.
“On the other hand, a model of Josef Zeitler, owner of the Independent Energy Systems, is permitted by the TÜV. His Aqwon (http://www.aqwon.de) is the world’s first standard hydrogen scooter.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.welt.de/print-wams/article133800/Coole-und-saubere-Mopeds.html
It was also about a discussion which others could have read before they simply write something about it.
Yeah, and Aqwon hasn’t been in business since 17 YEARS. Probably because a price target of over 5600€ (which was apparently not even reached in 2003) for such a scooter is an insane sum for a system which I can nowhere refuel because of lack of hydrogen fuel tanks and which has an absolutely devastating efficiency. In contrast to the article, the scooter is also not filled with pure water, which is converted on the go, but directly and only with hydrogen.
There is practically exactly the same thing in it…
ONLY for the case that you have serious interest in the topic and have put yourself in spirit, here is another website with further details on the construction
http://www.energyportal24.de/artikel_509.htm
So? The only driving force behind the project was then dead. The Burgmann Fuel Cell by Suzuki showed up briefly in 2011 and then disappeared again.
Also at the risk that I repeat myself: The fuel cell drive in the scooter is inefficient, hellishly expensive, cannot be maintained by individuals and can only be refueled at a few gas stations. At these points, the hydrogen drive in the car has already failed for more than 50 years.
No, it was. but in the article, shortly before series production, he had a fatal traffic accident.
Quite simply: This is not feasible, i.e.: physically not possible or hardly possible and if not: too insecure, expensive or elaborate.
LG
In particular, I found the description of the Aqwon (a little further down on the website): “His invention: a hydrogen scooter. This made furore at the Hannover Messe Industrie 2003”
Last week I was traveling with a Pepetuum Mobile, was stopped by the police and got a juicy bus money. Have died against the Energy Act
(Sarkasmus end).