Why is there no direct IRE from Stuttgart to Mannheim?
Such a line would make a lot of sense. After all, these are the two largest cities in Baden-Württemberg!
You don't always have to take the detour via Karlsruhe with a change of trains. You also have to change trains once via Heilbronn, and even three times via the most direct route!
I would imagine the following (the best) line:
0:00 Stuttgart Central Station
0:15 Vaihingen (Enz)
0:20 Mühlacker
0:32 Bretten
0:44 Bruchsal
0:54 Wiesloch-Walldorf
1:02 Heidelberg Central Station
1:16 Mannheim Central Station
This would reduce the journey to about an hour and a quarter! What do you think?
(3 votes)
Loading...
Why easy if it’s complicated.
At the time, just no matter where the delays come from.
Thank you.
Thanks for the star.
You could do the following:
From Mannheim, 2 direct regional express lines of the SWEG go to Heilbronn. Once RE10a and RE10b. Both drive every 2 hours.
The driving times from Mannheim to Heilbronn are the same with both RE lines. They drive in a way that there is an hour cycle to Heilbronn.
You can then simply put this through to Stuttgart.
Between Stuttgart and Heilbronn there is only the RE 8 towards Würzburg or the MEX, which however holds everywhere.
With the RE 10 a/b you are forced to move to the MEX in the Heilbronnn.
Apart from that, the way I proposed would be much faster, right?
I mean, of course, the RE10a and the RE10b to Stuttgart. They’re not supposed to keep them everywhere. The RE8 and MEX should remain. Then you just have to adjust the schedule between Heilbronn and Stuttgart. There are also additional connections between Heilbronn and Stuttgart.
The RE10 has been completely moved between Stuttgart and Heidelberg/Mannheim. But that was kept at some point when I don’t know exactly, because of too many delays or something.
No, he has only been driving Bruchsal-Bretten-Mühlacker since the last change of schedule, before Heidelberg-Mühlacker. You have to change 3x from Stuttgart to Mannheim on the fastest route…
There is already a RE that is also operated by the SWEG. He travels between Heidelberg and Stuttgart via Bruchsal and Mühlacker.
Oh, okay.
But a RE/IRE about Mühlacker/Bruchsal I still find super😅
KA is barely smaller than MA, and there are IRE between KA and S. MA is a large railway hub and also a way around e.g. from KA direction M (which goes over S), but one has to take it occasionally if one does not want to splice more time. For me, this is the underlying justice.
Notification
PS: Since you asked something similar for the other end of Germany relatively shortly before (), this goes for me towards Spam. If you keep doing this, you might come to the Killfile with me and then you can’t get any answers from me, no matter what area.
It’s a way! I’m not going from Berlin to Hannover, right?
What kind of equal justice?
I don’t have a faint glimpse of what to be spam about. There are two completely different starting situations and proposals that I have both worked out independently of each other.
Then block me, I’ll be able to live somehow, even if it gets really hard…
You might like this website:
https://lineplus.de/
Do you have any idea how many times I had to travel across MA by train between KA and M? Then the situation would get worse for the people on this route. For extra trains you need more staff: Teurer also because lower utilisation is necessary.
And with a little run, the ICE connection is not so expensive.
Notification
PS: Spam also involved the number of your threads.
I know 😅👍🏻
I still don’t understand what you mean… 🤷🏻
And the number of my threads is completely normal.
The DB will hardly be interested. If there was this connection, the higher-priced ICE would be competing.
And what about the IRE Wendlingen-Ulm, the RE München-Nürnberg, the new RE Nuremberg-Erfurt and many other lines? Do they not compete with the ICE?
Agreed, I have to fit. Ulm-Wendlingen, I was almost the only fellow traveler…
When the IRE 200 starts in the new IRE 1 Karlsruhe-Stuttgart-Ulm-Friedrichshafen-Lindau, this line will be extremely successful.
The RE 1 Munich-Nürnberg is always crowded.
He already departs from Stuttgart to Aalen and from Stuttgart to Karlsruhe. What is the need for the interconnection of local and remote transport?
What does the IRE 1 have to do with it?
A combination of long-distance and regional transport is something completely normal? There are all possible routes throughout Germany…
I think it is only in the form of ICEs and so on.
Otherwise you would have to drive to Karlsruhe and from there to Stuttgart etc.
In Baden-Württemberg, I know that IC trains have been released for regional transport on partial routes! I can’t imagine why this shouldn’t be the case with such an important route as Stuttgart-Mannheim…
I was on Bahn.de and filtered after “only local transport”. It was always at least. 1x changeover necessary and no IC(E) included. Bzw. Why IC(E) to the local transport price if you can use the IRE to S with a small detour via the hardly smaller KA?
Notification
For example, because the ICE does not belong to the local traffic, it will not appear to you.
My knowledge is only the Gäubahn InterCity. I think he’s released from Stuttgart to Singen.
Between Stuttgart & Mannheim, unfortunately, this is not the case, which would not be bad if there was a semi-sensually reasonable RV connection. It’s not.
There is a line where you can drive with local transport tickets that is RE87 Stuttgart – Singen (As an IC set is usually driven to Zurich)
However, in individual cases, IC(E) belong to local transport.
Notification
However, an IC that can be used with local ticket would be displayed 😉
… there are reasons. Turn to DB.
What are the reasons?
The roadmap concept of Stuttgart 21?
I find it a nausea that there is no direct connection to Stuttgart-Mannheim anymore!
About Ludwigsburg….
And your “IRE” will drive directly
If, however, evtl would still have an alternative for you….You will drive from Stuttgart to Remseck, U12, get out at the end-stop store, kiosk in sight, but there’s only decapitating but drinking, bus to Waiblingen bhf and from there you will continue …directly to Mannheim ☝️🤟🤙
I don’t understand…