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Avicenna89
9 months ago

Climbing ropes are dynamic, i.e. they stretch very strongly under the load of a crashing climber (up to 30, 35 percent in new ropes). This significantly reduces the forces acting on the climber – about as the crumb zone in the car. If this weren’t happening, a climber would have to fear the worst internal injuries when it doesn’t even tear him or his safety chain. A static rope, i.e. a rope extending only 2-3 percent, would lead to such injuries. A paracord that breaks at 30 percent expansion does not meet the standard for climbing ropes. Their purpose of use is simply another and they are designed for exactly them.

Avicenna89
9 months ago
Reply to  EmtBayern

The parachute does not delay immediately. Air is compressible and the screen needs a time to develop properly. The catch is drastically reduced by these effects.

volker79
9 months ago

Climbing ropes have a special release.

Criteria are among others

  • Rope diameter – typically 6-11mm, sometimes also just under or just over it. The particularly thin ones are generally semi- or twin ropes which are used in the pair and slide slightly stronger through the safety device, ropes with release as single rope are used individually, are thicker, the particularly favorable specimens are very thick (because here the loadability is achieved by thickness and non-cost material and special processing) and slide in the rope to pick up/out somewhat heavier through the safety device. But everything in a safe area.
  • Categorization: As already mentioned, there are single ropes, half ropes and twin ropes. Simple ropes are common in sport climbing, half and twin ropes in alpine climbing and ice climbing (if a rope breaks down, you have to break off the route and rope it off, but they still offer enough protection. Twin ropes can only be used in the pair, both forerunners and forerunners. With a half rope, the forerunner has to go with two ropes and can theoretically also secure a forerunner at each end.
  • Break load: Here it becomes exciting. 12kN is given. These are stupid converts 1200kg. Why so much? Because here (and therefore the indication in kN also makes more sense) the acceleration or delay in a fall is included. A climber with 80kg (the average weight for the standardization of herangeocene) weighs when it crashes, for a short time several tons, so it also tears up the fuse partner a bit. The gravitation is now 9.81m/s2, i.e. (we leave air resistance away) a climber falls after 1 second with 9.81m/s, after two meters with 19.62m/s, … and when arriving abruptly in the rope, that means that the fallen seconds are the factor for the weight to be braked (grob weight climber*case duration) and in a forehead you sail a few seconds before.
  • Cable expansion: In order that the stop is not too abrupt, the rope has to stretch (dynamic rope). But that should not be too gum-like, we are still climbing and not bungee jumping.
  • Standard door: The number of standard doors (which are already relatively heavy) must be completed in the test sample without breaking
  • And some more.

This also makes sense somewhere, the rope should not tear and the fall should be as soft as possible (stitch word dynamic rope).

If you now see other applications, such as in your comment on another answer parachute cables: I don’t know about parachutes now, but I assume that static ropes are used here, that is, those that hardly stretch. In addition, many ropes on the parachute and the way it opens are softer than a fall when climbing, so that less breaking load is necessary. I can imagine that the ropes must be lighter and thinner.

volker79
9 months ago
Reply to  EmtBayern

It had to google again, because I don’t have all the numbers in my head (I am enough when the release is on the rope), I think the standard door is measured with 50kg, but in other areas 80kg applies.

ThomasTaemin
9 months ago

My knowledge is paracord only a preamble. Of these, climbing ropes with polyamide cores would have to fall. Perhaps it has to do with the test load the test standard. The structure is as good as the same, the elongation is between 28 and 35 percent. Both highly durable, stretchable and similarly resistant to UV, dirt and water.

How do you get on the subject?

Starkman405
9 months ago

Paracord has a significantly lower breaking load compared to climbing ropes. It is not designed to wear the weight of a climber safely.

ThomasTaemin
9 months ago
Reply to  Starkman405

Have you got any numbers? the 12kn from the climbing rope I know, but to the paracord in the same strength (I just go out from 10mm) I couldn’t find anything unambiguous except a safe load of around 700 kg. Interesting topic