Why do vegans have substitutes for meat, milk and eggs if they reject them?

There are now a lot of vegan sausages, vegan mince, vegan burger patties, vegan schnitzels, etc., and all these vegan meat products. There are also a lot of vegan dairy products like vegan ice cream, vegan chocolate and vegan milk, vegan cheese, etc. There are even vegan eggs. So why are they turning plant products into animal products if they reject animal products anyway?

Why don't they do without it completely?

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Svensson70
3 years ago

Very simple answer: Because they do not want an animal to suffer or be slaughtered for their diet. And because they chose this way of eating personally.

These products also make it easier for many to move to a vegan diet. And they are also bought by non-veganers who simply want to reduce their consumption of meat and animal products.

And why they look like that? Because they should remember the animal product in form and taste, but just without animal components. Nor did you know what the problem is.

Svensson70
3 years ago
Reply to  Svensson70

Addendum:

If I look at some of the answers and comments, I wonder:

  1. Who’s fighting who?
  2. What’s so interesting about the way people live that you have to work on it like that?
  3. Why do some behave the same way they always blame vegans?
Callidus89
3 years ago

I was wondering more often.

I’m not a vegetarian, nor a vegan. But I would suspect:

  • The form is chosen because it must have some form. So why not take one that is familiar to many. Not everyone is vegetarian/veganer from the beginning of his life. Apart from that, for these people, not the form of an animal product is the problem, but the manufacturing conditions.
  • The taste is chosen as a vegetarian/veganer wants to eat something tasty. Apart from that, for these people, not the taste of an animal product is the problem, but the production levels.

Apart from that, in our language, we simply lack the worders (or they have developed to this effect) that allow the naming of vagan products without reference to the animal predecessor.

Or what do you think you should say instead of “veganese ice cream”, what can be lost like “ice” for a not vegan? “Little Plant Cream”?

Or “veganes Schnitzel”. “flat panned tofu piece to roast” is quite bulky.

Or the language would have to change so that you always call the origin. “Did you please give me the vegan jam, animal butter and vegetarian bread?”

MitFrage
3 years ago

And then you shouldn’t eat a tube because it looks like a sausage?

Maybe you didn’t understand the motivation for this diet. There is not about the shape, colour or taste of food.

blacksheepkills
3 years ago
Reply to  MitFrage

If you find a tube would look similar to a sausage, let’s see a sausage at the next barbecue. You don’t have to eat them. Just so for memory…

MitFrage
3 years ago

I’m neither vegetarian nor vegan, but thank you for the hint. I’ll take a look in the fridge.

Callidus89
3 years ago
Reply to  MitFrage

Maybe you didn’t understand the motivation for this diet. There is not about the shape, colour or taste of food.

I think the questioner understands the motivation for this diet: no exploitation of animals.

The questioner does not understand the motivation why you need herbal products as a vegan that look like animal.

Ichweiswirkli
3 years ago
Reply to  Callidus89

Because they might taste good?

Callidus89
3 years ago

I think the question is more: Why is it called a carving?

I wrote a different answer here.

Ichweiswirkli
3 years ago

But why shouldn’t you make it look like a carving?

Callidus89
3 years ago

From my point of view, a vegan product can also taste well without having to imitate an animal product.

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

Okay, I’ll wait for you to report. I’m curious if the carrots look funny or if it’s the sausages 🙂

HikoKuraiko
3 years ago

Because even the animal products are simply pressed into such a form;) They also do not look like the animals are slaughtered but are only pressed in shape.

Apart from the fact that the substitute products are produced primarily for OMNIVORE (i.e. people who eat everything) and therefore the existing forms (and also the terms used) are used to immediately see what this or that is intended for.

Of course, vegan/vegetarians also buy these products simply because they can and the offer is there. Of this, many vegans/vegetarians do not give up animal products because they do not taste them, but simply because they do not want an animal to die or be exploited.

Bodhgaya
3 years ago
Reply to  HikoKuraiko

Make an answer superfluous.

HikoKuraiko
3 years ago
Reply to  Bodhgaya

Excess not determined 😉 If I’ve forgotten something and you can say something else ^

Frageritikum
3 years ago

A great question! 👍🏻

I’ve been wondering what this bullshit is.
That’s the purest self-ahead!

Many vegans seem to be unable to cook, are themselves not creative and seem to be happy to be fooling themselves with such products… most of them are totally unhealthy and also totally overpriced….

The manufacturers are laughing in the fice and become stinky! 😅 😅 💰 💰 💰…. that vegans can be fooled/cleaned with it 🤠.

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

I wonder! And it’s funny how they all talk out of here 🙂

They want something that looks like meat, eats and feels like meat and tastes like that, but… no one is… You could already suspect hypocrisy at this point, but I just think that quietly and secretly.

The industry is already in the starting holes with its first vegan patties and supplies what the Hippster demands. Of course, even at a completely overpriced price, because the grütze would cost only a tenth of a can as a matsch and would probably have consumed only a fraction of CO2 as our elaborately produced pattie. So let them have their fun and let them save the world, especially in faith…

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

They want something that looks like meat, bites and feels like meat and also tastes like that, but.

… and without animals being locked in, tortured and killed.

Seriously, this is really not a difficult concept.

blacksheepkills
3 years ago
Reply to  FresherKnilch

No, that’s not a difficult concept either. It’s just hypocritical. You want to feed you differently and not sacrifice animals for it? From me! Then don’t ask for food originally created as animal food… Is there something new?

I’m just saying it’s good: Imagine somewhere there’s a real sausage, just because it looks like a vegan to be confused. Protect yourself! But I don’t want to take you too hard either. I already said that the industry is guilty. After all, she’s giving this crap.

Frageritikum
3 years ago
Reply to  FresherKnilch

It’s the purest self-insurance!

Honeysuckle18
3 years ago

Sorry, if I’m getting involved – as a vegan:

The one with the “below-euch” is – just here among the tags on “Vegan” – so simply not…;)

Too many antivegans = animal profit lobbyists, and people to whom their so-called “cognitive dissonance” gazes at the essential!

As an approach, you can’t call your antive attitude – on the contrary…

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

Yes, I understand. That’s why you should stay among yourself. I started an attempt to approach. But the last time…

And you’re not going right in the rest. Here too: You don’t want to be sworn, but I have to accept it.

Heuchlerei…

Whether your way of life is better or not I don’t want to doubt. It’s just about “how”…

Much success and hopefully a long and healthy life. You can wish me the suffocation death on a chicken bone. If at least one meat eater would be less…

Bye

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

I can’t blame for my way of life as much as you.

Unlike you, I didn’t do you either.

  • I want to end this now. Therefore a few last comments.
  • For my way of life, no 750 million animals die each year.
  • For my way of life, no 12 million hectares of land outside the German borders will be covered.
  • For my way of life, no nitrate entry takes place in groundwater.
  • For my lifestyle, significantly less water is consumed and significantly less co2 or co2 equivalents are emitted.
  • That’s why vegans are accused of things like “the form of their substitute products”.

Criting your way of life and criticizing my way of life is not the same, even if you like it.

I live because I don’t care about the atrocities in the meat-producing industry. And only for that I may, even from you, as hypocrites be sniffed.

It also annoys me that I get compliments from zig “Pseudo-Veganers”

So.

We both should actually grill together

I am not spending time with people who are titled me as hypocrites and naive hapsters, just because I have thought and changed certain aspects of my life. I guess you understand.

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

Do you want me to change it?

I don’t care about having a barbecue, that someone eats a vegan sausage as long as he doesn’t want to convert and mission me. Maybe I even eat some vegans without asking you to taste my pig…

I can’t blame for my way of life as much as you.

It also annoys me that I get compliments from zig “Pseudo-Vegans” in which I should die or suffocate my flesh…!

You know what? We should actually grill together and talk about the weather 🙂

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

Well, let me re-form this. I no longer go to these gatherings (grill festivals), because I find it difficult to leave the constant downgrading questions (you would rather save a child or an animal baby, etc.) and accusations about my way of life incompetent.

It’s annoying. As in the week 5 times to get any compliments on GF in which I should refer to any absurd scenarios, just because I don’t eat meat.

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

That is, if I write, “Fleischser are the same ignorant egoists who are not too bad for a lie to keep their conscience clean”

No, that’s your opinion. If I want to discuss, I’ll answer that:)

Oh, right, it was a different user. I apologize

No problem. After all, we are people (even if we have different opinions).

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

Oh, right, it was a different user. I’m sorry.

and had to appeal to the discussion.

But let me understand.

If you discredit my way of life in your answer and diffamilyate me as the one who lives like that, then will I start the discussion?

That is, if I write, “Fleischesser are the same ignorant egoists, who are not too bad for a lie to keep their conscience clear,” then I am not the author of a debate? That’s good to know.

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

Kindergarten? My answer was the first and you commented on it…

So you felt kicked on the slips and had to appeal to the discussion. Next time you can just think of your part…

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

Sorry, scroll up.

And if you attack my way of life or discredit me, then it’s only legitimate if I’m defending myself and therefore fully justified in your answer.

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

No 🙂

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

You always put the start of the discussion. I just…

Didn’t you comment on my answer?

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

Not because of the animals, but because of the unabsolute discussions that are forced upon you, such as these here.

You finally disqualified yourself. You always put the start of the discussion. I just…

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

You’re getting away from the crowd.

No, I don’t. I need to know, I’m very busy with very many vegans.

On the other hand, you have a prefabricated opinion about vegans, and in which you are accusing them of hypocrisy, you do not have to deal with the fact that there is a point in how they live their lives.

You will, of course, deny that, completely natural, but at the end it is.

I mean, you’re pretending to protect me so that I don’t consume unpredictable meat. Be honest with yourself, you’re not really stupid.

I am consciously speaking to the hypocrites that their superfood cannot come from far enough (

And how much percent of vegans are they? What you ignore is the fact that things are being discussed unreliably among vegans that there are vegans who study every fucking list of ingredients.

Where your stuff comes from, you’re interested in shit, or how much time do you spend studying content information per day?

But you’re not too fond of simply taking a charge out of the air to attack someone whose only crime is not eating a few things you eat.

Name your peas and lentils so and not: vegan pattie.

Of course, if you don’t call it frikadelle, but pig and beef, no problem.

Are you saying “sweet grass”?

Then we can be friends again.

Relaxing.

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

the taste

tastes. What’s wrong with that?

the shape

The shape of a chip is more practical around worlds than that of an 8-sided cube. What you eat doesn’t look like a pig, why does mine look like a carrot?

and the reopening in general … of meat products.

Are you so upset about beer and sugar-free gums?

But everyone should do what he wants….

Of course, he still has to get away with being constantly dismayed and insulted.

and let yourself be fucked and fucked!

Yes, most vegans really think that they actually buy meat when they buy a vegan burger patty… those stupid idiots.

Do you need some exclamation marks from my little angry friend?

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

that a Wiener Schnitzel

And have you ever seen a vegan Wiener Schnitzel?

Same as a Hamburger

That’s why vegan Pattys are called “Burgerpattys” and not “Hamburger”.

a frikadelle

And what do you think the vegans should call their product so that it doesn’t stimulate your impact? Bratdisk?

something that looks like a sausage that has the shape of an elongated roller

I was thinking about the BBQ night among friends. Or do you avoid the carnivorous people completely and remain among you?

Not all vegans, but yes, I’m staying away from gatherings where dead animals are prepared cellar. Not because of the animals, but because of the unabsolute discussions that are forced upon you, such as these here.

I used to bring my own food for grilling, because the non- vegan host understands not as well in their production as I do. Apart from the fact that he usually doesn’t have the ingredients in the house.

its shaped meat

There is no such thing in vegan cuisine.

in the basement

We have a normal kitchen.

made up of grass and kidnappers

Do you have any more downgradings in stock? What’s wrong with you? Where’s your rough anger coming to people like me? What did I do to you?

Incidentally, vegan recipes for steaks, sausages and frikadellen mainly include seitan (wheat) and peas. But yes, I’ve tried Kidney beans before.

It is about the hypocrites who buy “vegane” sausage and pay the whole with money from their leather purse

How many of them do you know? I don’t know a vegan with a leather bag.

But, hold on now. I have a razor brush made of roof hair. I already have my whole life. And if I’d throw him away, no roof would be alive again, but I’d have to buy a plastic thing as a replacement that then pollutes the environment.

those who emphasise at every celebration, they want a vegan burger, just to get to taste and then eat meat again, etc…

Yeah, that’s very common.

Come on, I’m sure you’ll be able to get a rough story about vegans who are secretly slaughtering home, from the ribs.

Frageritikum
3 years ago

It’s all crazy, +!
SELBSTVERARSCHE!…. the taste … the form and the re-opening in general … of meat products.

If your 🧠 is a … everyone who is honest with himself understands that and sees it.

But everyone should do what he wants….

… I think it’s just always ridiculous that vegans make you smart and conscious, etc., and let yourself be fucked and fucked!

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

Why would I want to eat the ackergaul from the field?

I don’t want to, imagine.

But hey: I’m not vegan either…

But you have a clear opinion on how to think and be vegans. :

And you’re not too bad to blame them for what you consider to be self-evident.

If you see someone throwing garbage in a recycle bin, do you suggest he doesn’t care about the plastic mountains in the ocean?

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

Again, you are the fresh Knilch. You’re getting away from the crowd. I am conscious of the hypocrites that their superfood cannot come from far enough (among others).

And where we are on the topic: Name your heirs and lenses as well and not: vegan Pattie…! Then we can be friends again.

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

Where your superfood comes from

You mean wheat, peas, carrots and lenses? Everything comes from Germany, or at least the EU.

Apart from that, no combine harvesters would mean, no chopped field animals.

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

There are no combine harvesters where your superfood comes from:)

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

Are you eating the animal in the field? Or are the animals just no matter?

No, I don’t have a problem with eating a chicken or pork grown for consumption. Why would I want to eat the ackergaul from the field? But hey: I’m not vegan either…

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

You mean they were killed.

No, I mean that a Wiener Schnitzel is a very clear definition of its ingredients! Just like a hamburger, a frikadelle, a mett bread or a simple sausage! Just because you put “vegan” in front of it is not something completely different.

Honestly, aren’t you fooling yourself in this argument?

I was thinking about the BBQ night among friends. Or do you avoid the carnivorous people completely and remain among you?

What? The shapes “cylinders”, “disc” and “balls” are now all occupied.

Put it in the mixer, fill it and call it smoothie…

Oh. I produce my hypocritical replacement products myself.

Jo, then I found one of 10,000 hardcore vegans here, who puts himself together in the basement his moulded meat of grass and Kidney beans… It’s not about you. It’s about the hypocrites who buy “vegane” sausage and pay the whole thing with money from their leather purse…; those who emphasise at every celebration, they want a vegan burger, just to get to the taste and then eat meat again…

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

No, you claim

Oh, no. You say. And I can make you a vegan from 1. Hands say you’re wrong.

If you were aware, you would have lied or not written.

No. The animals that die during the harvest are not killed with an intent.

Or are farmers aiming with the combine harvester so right?

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

Can you at least not eat the animal in the field? Then it wouldn’t have died for nothing.

Are you eating the animal in the field? Or are the animals just no matter?

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

, originally created as animal foods

You mean they were killed.

Then please not with food

Why? Who is being harmed?

Imagine there’s a real sausage somewhere just because it looks like a vegan to be confused.

Oh, that’s sweet of you, because how many times did it happen to me that I was handed over to the meat counter instead of a vegan meatball from beef chop.

Honestly, aren’t you fooling yourself in this argument?

Is there something new?

What? Plant mass octahedron? The shapes “cylinders”, “disc” and “balls” are now all occupied.

After all, she’s giving this crap.

Oh. I produce my hypocritical replacement products myself.

wickedsick05
3 years ago

You’re just pretending that vegans aren’t aware of this, even though you’ve been told for years that they know very well.

No, you claim

and
Other that animals are locked, tortured and killed.

If you were aware, you would have lied or not written.

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

Can you at least not eat the animal in the field? Then it wouldn’t have died for nothing. That would be the right veganism for me!

blacksheepkills
3 years ago

In the end, it’s just a relocation… Vegan = allegedly no animal death; Electric car = no emission etc…

The simple people of today seem to be content with what they see in their eyes. Demands doesn’t seem…

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

And self-deception

You’re just pretending that vegans aren’t aware of this, even though you’ve been told for years that they know very well.

But man has to eat something now, and for the vegan the animals die only in the field, for the meat eater also in the stable.

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

Because of the shape? Should vegan food be pyramidal?

Or because of the taste that is not the reason for the vegan to give up meat?

What exactly is the fuck about it, please let me know.

wickedsick05
3 years ago

And self-destructive animals die very well for plant cultivation and not too short

Z.b in Germany, it is mandatory to make an animal test so that a pestizd is allowed. Animal locked in cages, tortured and killed.

bella162
3 years ago

Because it’s not about the taste, it’s about the protection of animals.

Since you visualize tastes, the products for taste also have to look more or less as the product that is imitated.

FouLou
3 years ago

As has been said. They refuse meat. Not the product per se.

It could be formulated elsewhere:

Why should vegan on ice, hamburgers, cheese, chocolate. if there can be any other products in Vegan?

You have the best of both worlds. You didn’t steal an animal. It has a certain amount.

Pokerkitty
3 years ago

They don’t like animals. There is no animal in the products, so they support the animals.

SoIid
3 years ago

If there is no choice, and as long as no animal comes to harm, they don’t care.

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

They reject the way in which the products of the livestock industry are obtained, not the taste and not the form.

You don’t have to be very clever to realize this, but you can naturally be deliberately stupid.

Hateyall
3 years ago
Reply to  Indonesian123

It is hypocritical that meat eaters take this as an argument, although their meat on the plate is processed so strongly in most cases that it has nothing more in common with the actual animal.

MitFrage
3 years ago
Reply to  Indonesian123

Apart from what FresherKnilch has already said correctly: vegans/vegetarians do not produce their products themselves. That’s what food companies do. Most vegans/vegetarians would buy their replacement products even if they are sold in dice or as a pyramid.

Imagine I don’t want to wear gold jewelry. Because I don’t like gold. Does that mean that I can’t wear silver jewelry?

Pokerkitty
3 years ago
Reply to  Indonesian123

They do that for the meat eaters who may change. If it looks like a sausage, you can be friends with it more than if it’s a green clot that tastes like a sausage. 😁

FresherKnilch
3 years ago
Reply to  Indonesian123

What is hypocritical about it?

For meat, an animal dies that was locked up for months.

Not for a substitute product.

Where do you see hypocrisy?

FresherKnilch
3 years ago

Dude, can you please stop making me a compliment every day in which you hole me with questions about my way of life? And where you’re asking me the same stuff you’re gonna get up here. It’s quite intrusive.

  1. You can also reach a huge excess of calories without meat, without having to make a head over it. I eat exactly once a day, work physically hard and still am anything but lean.
  2. People who are underweight due to a hormonal disorder (shore gland hyperfuntkion) also remain if they consume meat, which makes no difference for them.
  3. People who are underweight due to barely available food should eat from me what they want to not starve. Finally, they are not to spit and torment the animals to millions.
  4. However, many of them are starving because the feed industry has made it impossible for them to operate agriculture to a sufficient extent. Another reason I’m against livestock farming.
  5. A flour banana has almost 160 calories per 100g. If one really should have problems with the underweight, he should rather use it instead of a steak.
FresherKnilch
3 years ago

why are the living beings you don’t even know?

I don’t know your mother, and I would still want to protect her life and protect her from torture and liberty. That’s what I’m gonna do.