Why do people still use Windows for work when there is Linux?
Hello everyone,
Why the hell do you still use Windows for work? It's absolutely ridiculous! Microsoft is sharing your data with third parties, and you're exposing yourself to an incredibly high risk of viruses. You're also supporting a monopoly company that's exploiting its power to dominate the market and stifle innovation.
Have you ever considered that Linux could solve all these problems? Linux is the ultimate answer to the data octopuses and security risks that threaten us all. It's open source and developed by a dedicated community that takes transparency and security seriously.
Open source is the future. With Linux, you have full control over your system. There are no hidden backdoors, no opaque data collection, and no exorbitant licensing fees. Instead, you can use a stable, secure, and flexible operating system that meets your needs.
And what happens to your data if you don't use open-source software? It gets sold, analyzed, and potentially misused. Any app that isn't open source could hand over your personal information to the highest bidder. With open source, however, you can view the source code and ensure that nothing is happening behind your back.
Linux isn't just an alternative, it's the solution. Get rid of Windows, get rid of Microsoft! Focus on freedom, security, and control. Focus on Linux and open source!
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The main problem is Microsoft's marketing.
Go to Media Markt, Saturn Hansa, or another e-discounter and take a look at the PC systems. 99% of all PC systems sold come with Microsoft Windows pre-installed. Only a few will go ahead and delete the pre-installed Windows for an additional charge. Years ago, I bought a PC from ARLT. They charged me a whopping €70 to remove Windows!
What's being done in marketing is that the licenses are purchased cheaply from the manufacturers. They're then added to the finished PC boxes. The price is then doubled and the PC system is sold. Just compare the prices and the quality of the components used (be careful between bulk and retail!)
The PC systems are definitely not subsidized by pre-installation.
Every Tom, Dick and Harry buys a PC with the Microsoft crap pre-installed.
If you were to ask the buyer before purchase what he would like to have pre-installed, Microsoft Windows would be a thing of the past within a few weeks.
Almost all Linux distributions cannot and are not allowed to be marketed because this violates the GNU License. Likewise, most Linux distributions are open source, unlike Microsoft Windows, which is closed source.
The Linux distributions that charge for their services only charge for their support, not for the Linux OS used.
Red Hat Linux
Suse Enterprise
Fedora RHEL
There used to be Cent OS which was the same as Red Hat, but without the paid components.
As for my opinion, I've been using Linux exclusively for over 20 years. It works much better, and I'm extremely more flexible than I could ever be with Microsoft Windows. I, too, am in favor of no longer using Windows as an operating system. No matter what arguments people come up with to stick with Windows or demonize Linux. That's just a small example.
Anyone who uses a Fritzbox (no matter which model) also uses a Linux distribution based on Arch, called Fritz OS!
I just hope there's a change in thinking. As soon as some people show that it works and don't have any problems (I know many who are very happy with it), the sheep and herd principle will take effect. Then everyone will follow suit.
And what Microsoft is trying to do lately is to force users to take control:
https://www.heise.de/meinung/Microsofts-Recall-laeutet-das-Ende-des-Personal-Computers-ein-9730298.html
No one has to put themselves through this. No matter how lazy you are, no matter how attached you are to Microsoft Windows. It's time to let go, no matter how difficult it is.
Most of us have made Microsoft what it is today through license payments. We made that mistake. We can still backtrack and show Microsoft that users don't want to put up with everything MS does. It starts with not buying MS licenses and not using an operating system called Windows.
Use or convert free formats in your files. Free yourself from the clutches of the data octopus Microsoft.
I've been using Linux for work and gaming for five years. Yes, gaming works too. Pretty well, in fact.
And why most people use Windows: Windows is pre-installed everywhere, and most people don't know that you can install something else on your PC. Besides, it's hard to switch, and many software manufacturers only support Windows, which can be a problem in some cases.
Unfortunately, the Windows requirement is true 🙁
I work with Linux, but some things are difficult to implement. Collaboration is one of them. Sure, it's possible. Especially since you can also use Office applications web-based. I often find LibreOffice very clunky, and many features I've grown accustomed to simply don't work with it.
Since Steam, at least some games run well and smoothly on Linux, but unfortunately not all of them. Unfortunately, I can't do without Windows and prefer it for collaboration-intensive work.
Things are different when it comes to development work, although I do this less and less professionally.
Maybe because the employer requires it?
Luckily, mine doesn't. That's why I use Linux for work.
But have you ever tried to centrally manage a network with hundreds or thousands of client PCs and users?
Unfortunately, MS still has the most practical solutions. You can somehow manage all of this with Linux, but in many places it's still a bit of a tinkering exercise and requires more manual work. At the very latest, at 1,000 users and devices, this becomes disproportionate. Something like this has to work simply.
There was already a project in Munich to convert the city administration to Linux, but after a few years it was migrated back to Windows because there were too many problems with Linux and the administrative effort was disproportionately high.
Apart from that, a lot of software in enterprise software is developed for an MS environment and only works under Linux with great effort.
Hello (more of a history buff – ROFL) – this is getting critical ^.^
You're definitely starting with the wrong approach! If so, you should start with Unix, etc., and then you can delve deeper into the subject of the OS (operating system: Linux, Windows, etc.).
The actual approach starts with making older computers, those running MS (Microsoft) Windows and older Apple computers that are no longer supported, usable again with Linux! Leaving it that way is just superficial stuff, nothing more! You don't need anything else! Anyway, the text continues.
For older mobile or desktop computers, this type of Linux is more likely to be integrated: Linux Download | Download Linux Lite Free Linux Operating System (linuxliteos.com) . This should be quite sufficient for most computers up to 2012, or for ZPEs (the "Central Processing Unit(s)") that only have one or two cores, etc.
It's best to change the topic or use my topic as a guideline. All I can say to myself is, "He's just getting himself worked up!" & something like that gets little to no attention. Hardly anyone will switch to Linux based on your description. Hopefully, the criticism has been received, etc.
See you soon.
Heyy, the artificial excitement has led to more replies on this forum…I didn't mean to attack anyone or push the cart, the criticism was received, and I'll try to implement it next time 🙂
Bitte sehr & super. Wer draus lernt ist im Vorteil 😉
Bis die Tage.
A non-professional understands nothing or less of this. Even if he can translate the open original 😄
And that is precisely the problem for many users and companies.
For example, I'm a healthcare accountant, and invoices are sent to health insurance companies using an encrypted process (DTA). I don't even know if and how this can be implemented in Linux. The other employees know the billing software like the back of their hands, but whether it's even available on Linux is a mystery. And when I approach the PDL with possible emulators, she's the WoW quest giver with the ❓ on her head.
The majority of users don’t have the time for this.
Good question. It can't be answered in one sentence.
You're right, that's why you should always bypass the registration when installing and manually deactivate everything optional to limit the problem as much as possible.
I don't support Microsoft at all. My Windows isn't activated, and I don't buy any Microsoft products.
Yes, of course I have. And I've come to the conclusion that it's not the case for me.
Because even though I find a lot of things about the company behind Windows and some of its so-called features annoying, I'm very familiar with it. I've always used it. And once you've gotten your bearings in the administrative chaos of Windows, you can actually live with it quite well.
Windows also has by far the best compatibility with all types of applications. You don't need any add-ons or additional software to access basic functions. Once you deactivate or uninstall all the junk that comes with Windows, it's still quite convenient to use in everyday life.
I'm not really afraid of viruses. My personal data is backed up externally anyway. And what if I do get a virus? I just reboot, use Secure Erase in the BIOS to shred the SSD, dig out the old boot drive from the drawer, and an hour later I can use my PC normally again.
Uh, oh. Am I about to see this slogan on posters from angry computer scientists at a demonstration downtown, or where did it come from?
Thank you for your candid response! It's nice to hear that you're already taking steps to protect your privacy and aren't necessarily supporting Microsoft.
It's understandable that you're sticking with Windows. Habit and compatibility with applications are key factors.
I also understand your criticism of the tone. It's just that a slightly harsher formulation will bring more responses in this forum; I don't want to offend anyone with the question 🙂
The virus issue is another one. It's especially prevalent with Windows because it's so widespread. As Linux becomes more widespread, there will be more malware for it as well.
You support Microsoft by using Windows, thereby giving it more market share. This leads to more software being made for Windows, which leads to
has.
No, Microsoft benefits absolutely nothing if I use Windows without an activation key and a logged-in account. The only thing they could possibly know about me would be my IP address, which requests data for new security updates. But they don't get anything out of that either. And since Linux is free, if I were to use another operating system, I wouldn't increase anyone's market share – they don't get any money from me.
Thanks for the not-so-petty correction. I think the text is understandable even with the minor flaw.
probably, you're right
I never claimed that. What I'm saying is that you're involuntarily supporting the corporation.
It exists, and it's called Linux. It's even higher quality and better structured. Even Microsoft knows this, and that's why they use Linux for their servers.
But that's exactly what doesn't happen because switching operating systems is too difficult. Either because the user doesn't know it's even an option, because it's too complicated to install a different OS and get used to it, or because the software they need (or think they need) only works on Windows.
I understand that. But to apply that to another example, I can have a negative opinion of the VW Group because of the emissions scandal and still drive a Passat. Just because I use the product doesn't mean I have a positive opinion of the company behind it. Especially since I didn't even pay for Windows.
What should actually happen is that other companies develop a competing product that improves on the criticisms of Windows, but is of similar quality and structure.
Then many people would switch to this product, and Microsoft would be forced to change certain things or would incur losses.
This was not a correction, but was intended as
be read. Sorry if that came across wrong.
So, to put it another way, my argument is that by using Windows, you're contributing to Microsoft's virtual monopoly on PC operating systems, and therefore most software is made for Windows only, which makes it harder to switch to another system, which leads to more people using Windows, etc.
Microsoft doesn't make money through Windows licenses, but through the ecosystem around Windows (and now especially through Cloud/Azure).
I'd love to work exclusively with Linux, but in a larger organization where management was sworn in by MS decades ago, that's pretty much impossible if you're only in IT. That's why, in addition to Linux for work (Debian), I also have a Windows VM for Outlook/Exchange, SharePoint, MS Office, management software, etc. Unfortunately, due to a lack of suitable interfaces or incompatible files, using LaTeX, LibreOffice, etc. is often not an option.
klar, den Punkt verstehe ich
The problem is that most entrepreneurs and decision-makers in companies and government agencies are bribed. Either directly through money or indirectly through false and outrageous lobbying. The products are supposedly safe, modern, intuitive, and fast—all of which is untrue.
My principal recently said, "We have to teach Excel because it's the industry standard." And then people just learn the clicky stuff, but no schematics, and with the next update, the training companies start making money from training again, because they need someone to train them. LoL
I'm the only one working at a GAFAM school with Linux and encryption. Student data doesn't reach Fernwest from my side. And everything works! Even better than my colleagues, who constantly complain about forced updates, GUI changes, slowness, etc.
Anecdote: The Abitur grades are entered into an Excel spreadsheet—with a password, admittedly, but that can be hacked in a matter of seconds or minutes—and then sent via email via Outlook. No one can tell me that Microsoft isn't reading all of it.
natürchlich liest MC sowas mit, vorallem im BIldungswesen sollte man auf Linux und auf Opensource gehen….
May I quote you on this to my principal? 🙂
klar hahahaah
Although I'm an avid Linux enthusiast, things don't always run smoothly on Linux – and when that happens, you often have to do more than the average user is capable of. For example, I can't use Wi-Fi on my laptop if I use the standard Linux LTS kernel, and the fingerprint sensor doesn't work at all. A drawing tablet I bought a few days ago wouldn't run on Linux at all without community drivers. There's simply not enough support from companies and Linux doesn't have enough market share to publish drivers for Linux.
And then, of course, there's the matter of getting used to it, purely due to Windows' enormous market share. Almost everyone knows how to use a Windows computer, but Linux has a few peculiarities when it comes to package management. And almost no computer comes with Linux pre-installed; users have to install and learn the operating system out of their own willpower. But why bother? Realistically, most people don't care about data protection or open source code. Many of the programs they're used to don't exist in the same form on Linux.
In short, this can be attributed to the fact that Windows has dominated the market for decades.
Das mit den fehlenden Treibern ist ein guter Punkt, ich finde die Community hinter linux gerade das tolle
Definitely, but it shouldn't be the community's sole responsibility to reverse-engineer devices and drivers
I totally agree with you, it can be very frustrating for beginners to struggle with something like this at the beginning
Linux, the ultimate solution… Sorry, this OS has been around for decades, and what's happened? Nothing! If Linux were really that much better, it would have prevailed! But it hasn't! Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not a fan of Microsoft, but Linux with its thousands of distributions… no thanks!
naja, wem seine Daten so egal sind wie dir mag das durch aus ein weg sein…
Good morning,
I personally use all three major operating systems: Linux, macOS, and Windows. I primarily use Linux for work. However, I personally find it important to be up-to-date and to be familiar with Windows.
I don't think the "average" user thinks about it. I think many aren't really aware of the danger, because computer science is simply too abstract without in-depth knowledge.
Das sind ein paar gute Gründe, ich finds stark dass du auf allen 3 Plattformen aktiv bist
Because it is used.
Everyone can decide for themselves which system they want to use. You can use Linux—without anyone criticizing you. 😉
It is also up to you.
Of course, I don't want to offend anyone with my question; I'm just interested in the reasons why people prefer Windows to Linux. The somewhat harsher tone of my question will get more answers 🙂
“man” ? – Das sind gerade mal 3,3 % !
Why the hell such a question 😉
Seriously, I've been using Windows for 40 years now. My intention has always been for my PC to be compatible with the system at work—without any complications.
I had no intention of burdening myself with unnecessary extra work.
jaa, 3,3%-4% die auf dem richtigen weg sind mit ihre Daten u.ä. sicher zu halten
marketing
Windows is from Microsoft, so it is heavily advertised.
Linux, on the other hand, is known only to a few.
Personally, I prefer to use Windows, but for many devices, especially control devices, I recommend Linux.
Because it is more useful for most users.
See also: https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/158102/umfrage/marktanteile-von-betriebssystemen-in-deutschland-seit-2009/#:~:text=Microsofts%20Windows%2DBetriebssystem%20erzielte%20in.3%20Prozent%20den%20drinden%20Platz.
When used sensibly, Windows and Linux can complement each other well. It's good to be at home in and familiar with multiple worlds.
LA
My preferred DAW doesn't run on Linux, and neither do most of its plugins. I don't like Mac, so I use Windows.
"Open source is the future. With Linux, you have full control over your system. There are no hidden backdoors…"
You do realize that this is exactly what happened in Linux this year BECAUSE everyone can contribute to it?
You should do some research instead of blindly posting propaganda here.
"Open source isn't a perfect solution, because even in Linux, security vulnerabilities are discovered because anyone can contribute to them." Yes, that's true – there have been security vulnerabilities. But that's precisely the difference: Linux's openness means these vulnerabilities can be discovered and fixed quickly. In proprietary systems, such vulnerabilities can often persist for years because only a small group of developers has access to the source code.
With open source, especially Linux, transparency is a huge advantage. Anyone can review the code and report bugs or vulnerabilities. This leads to faster resolution of issues and an overall more secure software environment. It's not blind propaganda, but an informed decision based on the best practices of open collaboration.
Additionally, Linux offers the advantage of customization and flexibility that proprietary systems lack. Users can configure and optimize their system precisely to their needs, without being bound by the restrictions and licensing terms of a large corporation.
It's about maintaining control over your own data and your own software. With Linux and open source software, you have this control. You're not at the mercy of the opaque practices of big tech companies. Focus on freedom, security, and adaptability. Focus on Linux and open source!
Blah blah blah. How many percent or users look at the code? Or even adjust it? Better to measure it in ‰.
All well and good. But ultimately, it's pointless chatter because nobody needs it.
Wasn't there a vulnerability just this year that was discovered to have been in the kernel for decades?
PS: Do you know who discovered some of these security vulnerabilities? Microsoft. They're also one of the largest funders of the Linux Foundation, if I remember correctly.
You should do a reality check on what you say.
I only use my PC for gaming anyway and am too lazy to dual-boot, so I do all my work on Windows. I think many people do the same.
But if I had a work laptop, I would install Linux on it
genau so hab ichs auch gemacht:)
I tried Linux and was disappointed because some libraries just wouldn't open. I got fed up and reinstalled Windows.
It's a shame that you had such experiences with Linux. Which distribution did you use?
Ubuntu
huuhh? war deine Instalation fehlerhaft? oder wie kam es zu dem Unglück?
Most software and games are developed for Windows. Moreover, the average consumer is used to Windows and nothing else.
I've been using Linux since 1998, and in the early 2000s I completely banned Windows and now only use it via VirtualBox, mainly for Adobe.
User-friendliness and intuitive functionality.
Imagine the absolute average person. 50% of people are dumber than this average person.
You can't explain anything to the gorillas that requires a little more understanding of technology.
Plus, everything is optimized for Windows.
I prefer Windows as a simple, all-in-one solution. I don't have to worry about anything, and it works. That's enough for me. I don't have time to mess around with the OS.
Depends on caionical has also taken an unpleasant direction with Ubuntu pro support for money
Why should I install Linux if I already have Windows installed? Just because someone like you doesn't want to use it.
For the same reason people use WhatsApp: Habit.
I haven't used Windows for over 5 years precisely because of data protection.
And also because Linux is more resource-efficient, open source and more secure.
Do you only use Arch or Debian? Do you have experience with other distributions? I'd be interested to know. :))
Arch as a desktop operating system and Debian as a server.
I used Linux Mint before, but it's too old for me personally.
I know, quite scandalous opinion, because maybe Windows isn't so bad after all?
Is it scandalous to be a kind of data slave for a US tech company?
Everyone has to decide that for themselves.
Meine Branchensoftware funktioniert nur auf Windows.
Der Laden muss laufen.
I don't use Windows myself…
But that doesn't mean I'm so stubborn as to ask such an unimportant question. My answer to this question is:
Because you can and are allowed to…