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hologence
1 year ago

that comes from when

  • used an inappropriate material – carbon is hard but fragile as porcelain. After a load it must be replaced like a motorcycle helmet.
  • designing its design of inexperienced kids and circumventing certification by official bodies.
  • Costs save to make the tour more affordable for tourists.
  • ignores the warnings of experts and employees.
JayCeD
1 year ago

It is somehow not a good idea to use airborne items that were removed from old boings because they were so old that the durability date had expired and therefore they were no longer allowed to fly. And then build a U-bot from it.

https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/u-boot-bei-titanic-verschollen-u-boot-chef-verriet-dass-er-expired-titane-teile-bei-boeing-kaufte_id_196847316.html

Well, and if several hundred kilos of pressure on each square centimeter, then the smallest material fatigue becomes catastrophe. Especially as carbon fibers are not known for their printing speed.

But what do you recognize an expert?

ANNEX He can tell you what you did wrong.

ronnyarmin
1 year ago
Reply to  JayCeD

It is somehow not a good idea to use airborne items that were removed from old boings because they were so old that the durability date had expired and therefore they were no longer allowed to fly. And then build a U-bot from it.

That’s not what you’re doing in the article.

JayCeD
1 year ago
Reply to  ronnyarmin

If you read the whole article…

“He said he had the carbon fibre from which the ‘titan’ was made, with a large price discount of (aircraft manufacturer, Red.) “Because they have exceeded their durability for use in aircraft,” says Weissmann. ‘

ronnyarmin
1 year ago

There’s nothing left out of aircraft. I don’t know where you got it from.

He got the raw carbon fibre from which molded parts are made from Boeing.

LoverOfPi
1 year ago

Probably the outer shell had a little damage somewhere. With such high pressure values, a small mistake is enough to kill you. It’s really sad.

JayCeD
1 year ago
Reply to  LoverOfPi

Material fatigue is also not really surprising when you use used parts that were so old that they had to be removed from aircraft.

Tutmosis
1 year ago

Truly, the part of the pressure cell, which was constructed from carbon fiber composite, has failed. I don’t know any exact plan of the submarine with calculations. In my eyes, the choice of material has already been negligent. There are plenty of experiences with printed bodies made of steel, titanium and Plexiglas, for boats in this diving depth. I don’t know why the guy made this carbon thing. In my eyes an inappropriate material. Carbon fibers are embedded in epoxy resin to increase the tensile strength, shear strength and bending tensile strength. But the matrix is the epoxide. In my eyes, the reinforcement with the carbon fibers does not bring anything to the effect of pressure, since the fibers cannot absorb them. Thus, only the compressive strength of the epoxide matrix was purely mathematically. amounts to 70 – 130 N/mm2. Not bad, but not intoxicating for the purpose. The wall thickness should only have been calculated with low safety. (Apart from that the boat dived deeper than approved). Furthermore, the connection of the titanium parts to this carbon cell is a problem. I don’t know if he designed it with seals, or if the carbon cell was laminated with the titanium parts. I suspect that due to the very high water pressure with time water has migrated along the carbon fibers into the plastic structure and there has created plains and perhaps cracks. At some point, the cell was weakened. If he had made the cell clean from Plexiglas with the corresponding wall thickness, they would probably still be alive. The dip ball of the Trieste was forged from steel and later titanium was used for such purposes for weight reasons. I am absolutely sure that in the future such immersion cells can also be produced seamlessly with a 3-D printer, made of titanium powder, or steel powder. The current printers, (SLS) should be too small. I’ll go.

ADFischer
1 year ago

The comet (the first series aircraft with jet engines) is also burst sometime during the flight. At that time the material fatigue was.

Digibike
1 year ago
Reply to  ADFischer

As far as I am mindful of constructive errors in the printing booth. Since massive pressure differences are “lived” at each start and travel altitude, it is essential that the pressure cabin is also constructed accordingly… There were probably 2 massive problems, besides the originally square windows (which had nothing to do with the misfortunes – the problems were too fast…): On the one hand, an antenna design was probably responsible for collapsing, and on the other hand, not the rivet holes were drilled with it, but punched, which led to small “densations” which became hair cracks in the course of the printing cycles…

The first, jet-driven, machine was, m.w., the ME262, which was manufactured in series, with the Englishmen for a long time waving it, but not being used in series… At the first passenger jet that’s blasting, I’d be back with you… 😉

ADFischer
1 year ago
Reply to  Digibike

I meant the first passenger plane. Yeah, I guess there were some construction mistakes. A misfortune rarely comes alone.

Digibike
1 year ago

These were also the reason for this collapsing of the printing booths and thus the crash…

Leflocke79
1 year ago

Unfortunately, the infos in this respect are not revealing. There are reports claiming that the place was found, others munk that it’s not…

the only thing you could do is become speculative. But I say the dead are alive again

gonzo1233
1 year ago

Only if a pressure test was carried out for the 1,5-fold depth of immersion, would it be necessary to demonstrate the reliability.

That an unaudited boat collapses at 400 bar pressure should not be surprised.

Reinkanation
1 year ago

I would tap on material fatigue