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spanferkel14
5 months ago

No 2 is correct. No. 2 does not know whether it is only a male neighbour or a man and a woman.

No.1 also went if you changed the structure: “I think the young girl is the daughter of the neighbor of Amelie.”

reeever
5 months ago
Reply to  spanferkel14

I think “I think the young girl is the daughter of the neighbor Amelies.” would also go for No. 1, right?

Tannibi
5 months ago
Reply to  reeever

Yes, that goes, but sounds very high and without context it can also mean that the neighbor is called “Amelies”.

spanferkel14
5 months ago
Reply to  reeever

No, the first name is not correct, at least not in modern German.

Tannibi
5 months ago

I don’t want to bite on anything. I just said,
that it is correct and “highly cooked”. Both are true,
and that was all from my side.

spanferkel14
5 months ago

Then please read Duden 9, p. 366 (2, 2.1 at the bottom). It says:

“Articleless own names can also be reset to the reference word. However, this construction is almost entirely avoided with single and double-size person names.

Not: Car Ruths, trousers Karls. But possible: picture Michelangelolos, fortune Berlusconiswines France.”

If you want to bite yourself to the “almost” now, please beautiful.🤷 ♀️ I would like to point out that it is in the name Goethe one Familythe person himself is a well-known personality. But at the Beforenames of an x-customer would not be performed in modern German with genitive-s.

Otherwise, look at Duden 4, from page 211, 1.5.3.

Tannibi
5 months ago

The discussion is over. discussing facts
has no meaning. Look for the home of Goethe, for example.

spanferkel14
5 months ago

Now we can “discuss” a long time ago, and in the end everyone remains in his opinion. So we prefer to make a delicious coffee and enjoy the beginning day. Good morning!

Tannibi
5 months ago

No. “The neighbor Werners” is Werner’s neighbor.

spanferkel14
5 months ago

No, then it can not only mean it, but it definitely means that the neighbor carries the strange family name Amelies, that he is Mr. Amelies.

thommy771
5 months ago

Version 2 is correct.

Catcoon
5 months ago

No 2

HANK19
5 months ago

second

Christian320
5 months ago

2…