What type of hard drive does your computer have?
What type of hard drive does your computer have?
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My notebook as well as desktop both rely on SSDs.
SSD and HDD, total 7 TB
… for the OS and some other spits.
HDD for games and rest.
I’ve only got SSD’s in my PC.
But my HDD’s are still preserved as external storage media mostly for backups. SSD’s is too expensive for that.
I only have small system SSDs and all that has to do with data running on HDDs.
A SSD is fast and ensures that programs and operating system start faster. This makes the impression that the whole system would run more liquid and faster.
A HDD is more robust, usually does not simply fail to stand out, but warns me with the SMART data in time and HDDs are available in larger capacities at cheaper prices.
I would recommend a SSD only for system, program and games. The vacation images and Word files do not really benefit from the faster SSD because they are usually quite manageable. For example, I did not create a 200MPix medium format camera that created 350MB large RAW photos and an 8-12MB JPEG is also loaded by the HDD fast enough.
If necessary, you can also use the SSD in the meantime for processing and only then move the data to the HDD for permanent storage.
If you have important data, you should definitely think about a good backup concept. Even if HDDs are more robust and usually warn you about a failure in time – the flash that hits you and destroys the PC does not stop even from the HDD.
He’s not deliberately mean to you, he just doesn’t know you don’t have a backup 😉
Meanwhile mostly SSDs.
At home M2; in business everything from M2 to normal SSD to HDD.
Is interesting how many cardboard noses here an SSD as “hard driveview ntyp” and respond accordingly. 😂
Operating system & programs on SSD.
HDD as a “data grave”.
SATA SSD as boot drive and for standard programs or work drive.
RAID5 with HDDs for mass storage of data (redundancy + speed). There are then games libraries, videos or personal data etc. on it.
The RAID5 is upgraded to SATA SSD for short or long, but I need a separate controller via PCIe 3.0 or higher, otherwise it does not pay.
I don’t think much about NVME SSD yet. For me personally no benefit for the significantly higher price.
RAID and SSD can become dangerous. A SSD is a rather “fragile” construct that is only held together by software. As long as it works, everything is good. If there is a firmware bug that brings the SSD to crush the tables in which the LBA is assigned to the physical memory blocks, then you still have the other SSDs in the array.
But consider that these are most likely identical and thus also have the same bug!
You can do, but then you should have a good backup concept.
However, RAID is often the same with HDDs. We regularly get RAID arrays that ran for years until an HDD fell out. When incorporating the new HDD, the remaining old HDDs then had to work more in a few hours than before in zig months.
Then the 2nd HDD will fall out before the array is back to 100% and then you have a problem.
Of course you’re right. Data redundancy never replaces a proper external backup. And of course I do.
I have the data redundancy primarily because I don’t have a bump when you break a hard drive, I’m allowed to miss my PC for a weekend. You can easily replace it. At the same time, my HDDs are as fast as a standard SSD, with better price/performance ratio.
… that I should as an expert and data savior 🙂
Would be sad if not! For this, I had to ask for the component selection for my new PC.
Jein!
It doesn’t matter if you write 3 blocks on a SSD or 3 blocks on 3 SSDs. Power over the SSDs distributes the same load. The only overhead is the XOR block on the 4th SSD.
So that’s more limited. But also comes to the controller and some others. HW-Raid or SW-Raid, which SW-Raid, etc.
Exactly, and that happens much more often than HDDs. Since 90% of the failures are firmware bugs.
Yes – 3 months of work would hurt. Have people who do this again and again because they would go out an oaar hundred euros if they had the lost work of the last 4, 6 or 8 weeks.
With HDDs, this goes in 90% of the cases. With SSDs only in 30-35% so you often have not even the last straw “prof. data savior”.
There’s another explanation bear going through with you.
But you can see how deep you are in matter. Always impress me.
What seems to be a problem in general, as I have now read in other sources that RAID5 makes extremely many writing processes. Basically, the file is written on all SSD at the same time. This reduces the life span of SSD enormously, and also with all SDD at the same time. Means, if you take new SSD, it’s about a similar time. Very unfavourable.
There are probably now more durable SSDs for such purposes (eMLC devices), but this will be the real problem, which you do not describe, and as you have already noted, we are still in the infancy shoes.
Too bad, I really thought what was an interesting performance improvement. As far as it is in principle, but this is definitely more costly around the corner than expected (more often replaced) ud more critical as regards regular backups. I always make a backup every 2-3 months, or if I know a lot has changed. Then I would definitely have to be more cautious here.
I wonder if it’s the value for me if it’s time to replace the HDDs or switch to a new system.
Thanks again for the hint.
No – Basically, it’s about the way NAND works.
You know that wearleveling is intended to prevent storage cells from being used unequally. So one “fragments” the data with wearleveling, but that only helps to a limited extent.
In data, therefore, certain patterns are used more strongly within the blocks. So you randomize the data with a encryption. There are no patterns.
However, it is now necessary to run lists of how to splash the whole thing together again.
Now manufacturers come up with the idea that it is doof when a memory cell containing 2, 3 or 4 bits will fail to sample an entire block with zig kilobytes.
So some firmware does not map entire blocks of special parts only – but you also need tables to remember where which part cannot be used.
Lastly, for speed optimization, the voltage is changed as a function of the temperature.
We therefore have zig different tables that store the mapping, the LBA allocation, etc. It’s a little software bug that puts in crap and it’s the thing…
In addition, firmware is quite primitive – it is therefore usually worked with solid blocks and as a result a table can overwrite the following parts of firmware. Like a buffer overflow in the RAM.
Now is technically roughly generalized and simplified, but you see the potential problems I already think.
Also consider that HDDs have been developed since 1956 and that after 60+ years have prevailed the most robust concepts. Did you know that there were hard drives that worked with 2 arms and 2 sets on heads to be so faster? Many things have been tried and the best concepts and companies have prevailed.
At SSDs, we are in the middle of the “Wild-West-Zeit” in the more and more manufacturers with ever newer ideas on the market and there is still a lot of experimentation. Or, in other words, new firmware versions with other Tweaks come out in the monthly clock, and this often remains the extensive testing on the track.
In addition, HDD firmware also has much more development time and there are no revolutionary new jumps apart from the new SMR recording, but that was the first great innovation for a long time. This makes these media in my eyes more stable and, if necessary, even easier to save, you should really have to.
Thanks for the hint. It’s probably not going to be different with M.2 NVME, I tend.
That’s what I thought about you.
This could happen at the SSD RAID. If you want to have some insights into the SSD storage technology, log in via PM – I’ll send you a webinar blank…
as far as I know…
Both.
256GB M.2 SSD for operating system and some programs
1TB SSD for some games and programs
6TB HDD for games that do not fit the SSD or take away files a lot of space.
Hello,
in all my systems (main PC, second PC and laptop) are exclusively SSDs.
The prices of the dinges have fallen massively in recent years. I’ve put the real data waste on a NAS.
LG
Since the beginning of the year, only SSDs in my computer have been too loud.
Total 9.5TB SSD storage is now 😀
Installed and connected both several SSD and several HDD in the computer.
Both
I only have an NVMe SSD
HDDs have been banished into a NAS in the hall where I don’t have to hear it.
Both, and with the next upgrade the 4.5TB HDD will be replaced by SSD.
In my desktop, laptop and home server only SSDs are installed, only in my NAS there are still HDDs to be found
I use a 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD in my current system.
500gb m.2 ssd (saturation 980)
But if I need, I have several terrabyte Satan storages lying around. But I’m too lazy to join them.
The question should be what storage type our computer has.
Be it… I have both a hard drive and a semiconductor drive installed.
external SSD as main plate, the old built-in HDD as backup (each 1 TB)
my laptop: ssd
my pc: both (ssd+hdd)