What is a non-selfish reason to have children?
I'm curious, I can't think of a single one.
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Sometimes all it takes is an inheritance to continue something that's been growing for centuries. When that inheritance is born in America through egg selection and surrogate mothers, it's a great example of your thinking.
So that the heir does not grow up alone, another girl is appointed.
Personally, I find this completely perverse.
Nature didn't introduce menopause for no reason. 🤨
If everyone in the world had two children, we could close down to 8 trillion people.
It is not without reason that nature has introduced women to become pregnant and have children.
Because I have consciousness, I know that it is good to have children.
Yes. But you have a consciousness and know that it has negative consequences, since the world is already too full and doomed. Why more children?
Then you agree that it is natural for women to have children?
This would give us a biological, rather than selfish, reason why humans have children. This answers your original question.
But nature has also introduced a pattern of people dying sooner, and not everyone is artificially kept alive. In the animal kingdom, not everyone survives, so overpopulation doesn't occur so quickly.
Nature didn't want people to destroy things and create so much waste.
If we let nature take its course, everyone could become a woman and it still wouldn't be overpopulated.
But nowadays people are having artificial insemination, putting babies in incubators, etc.
There is no such thing. Having children is just as selfish as not having children.
Not having children is the opposite of selfishness. Overpopulation causes increasing waste and environmental pollution. Further warming of the atmosphere and intensification of the greenhouse effect. Supply bottlenecks. World food problems and hunger.
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No, it's also selfishness. It's entirely YOUR OWN (selfish) decision whether or not to have children, and it benefits you only. No one else can decide that for you; only then would it not be selfish.
You have advantages over people with children.
You're the one who has trouble with terminology.
Definition: Striving to obtain advantages for oneself, to fulfill one's own personal desires without regard to the demands of others.
What advantages do I have here, or to whom am I being inconsiderate? To the unborn sperm? The others end up in the tissue too.
I think you don't understand.
And yet, selfishness. What's wrong with the definition? What part of it don't you understand?
If you don't have a child for the sake of humanity and also for the sake of the potential child (since the world is going to hell), it is a favor to the planet with 8 trillion people.
So that you're not alone in old age and have someone who (has to) take care of you. Sometimes it just doesn't work out, because not everyone has a good relationship with their child.
When you put the world at a child's feet, they are happy and absorb it to the fullest.
This world can only continue to exist if we teach our children to use resources and the environment carefully and with consideration.
This means that everyone who consciously speaks out about garbage and exploitation should actually pass on their knowledge. But not as aggressively as you do here in the comments. Instead, calmly teach children from an early age how to live in harmony with the world.
PS If you don't want to have your own children, why adopt? It all comes down to the same thing.
It doesn't amount to the same thing. The children already exist and have little opportunity. There's no need to create more children that no one needs.
Children who are born consciously need their own parents 😉 You see something. If you don't need one, that's your problem. But you don't need to force your opinion on anyone. You asked for opinions, and you got them. That's it.
There are plenty of them. It just doesn't suit you, but that's okay. I'm just wondering what you're trying to achieve… Assuming there's a reason that even you can't deny, what are you trying to achieve?
Your opinion 😉
We all have different opinions, we don't have to agree with you
I'm still waiting for the non-selfish reason. It hasn't come yet.
Making the world a better place.
Are all animals selfish?
But the child could also make the world a worse place, not a good argument.
Animals have no consciousness, they act out of instinct, there is no egoism.
It depends on what values and principles I can give the child.
Humans have the same urges. It has nothing to do with selfishness.
Apart from that, animals do have consciousness. Pack behavior and social empathy, for example in monkeys, are only a small part of the spectrum.
That's what artificial insemination is for. Hahaha
But contraception doesn't exist in the animal world. And of course, you can't compare the consciousness of animals with the complex consciousness of humans. Haha.
You're giving someone a life. For me, that's a good reason, because I'm also glad my parents decided to have a child; otherwise, I wouldn't be here. I'm very happy and grateful to be alive.
If you hadn't been born, you wouldn't care.
Imagine if your child becomes depressed or seriously ill? They won't be so happy. People don't kill themselves for no reason.
Sure, but it still wasn't selfish. If you only have children to give someone a life, then you did it for someone else, right? Even if the unborn child wouldn't care, of course. But I was born, and I'm happy about it, so they did something good for me and not (just) themselves.
Besides, children can also be beneficial for others. Isn't it said that Germany needs more children? For example, because of pensions, or because otherwise the population will age, which would make health insurance, etc., difficult?
But many would have to adopt a child from another country to ensure there are enough children in Germany. And that costs €30,000 or so, by the way. Not everyone can afford it. But you don't need to tell me that; I probably can't have children anyway, and even if I could, I wouldn't plan to anytime soon.
Then adopt a child from a poor country. They can then also contribute to their pension later 😉
Does it bother you if the desire to have children is based on selfish motives? It doesn't bother me.
Giving new life.
The world is overpopulated, not for a good reason. Adopt.
The world maybe, but the birth rate in Germany is currently falling enormously!
In Germany, there are more people who want to adopt than there are children available for adoption.
I have a son and he is happy to be alive. 😊
Oh, so you're still clinging to your mom's apron strings? Then finally become independent if it bothers you so much.
If you like screaming and dirty diapers and never having a private life again.
No.
Then you just have to give up if you don't meet the criteria.
Or adopt a street dog, at least it won't be so stressful.
Even from poorer countries, adoption isn't easy; it's tied to extremely strict conditions and a lot of money. Furthermore, they prefer to place animals in other countries.
Then from other, poorer countries. People are people.
It's just the truth. Your motive was definitely selfish, because humanity, and therefore your son, won't have a bright future.
War, climate change, pandemics, disasters.
I won't get involved in such an infantile discussion.
But he wouldn't have missed it if he hadn't been born. A poor child without parents would have been happier.
Responsibility for the country.
And isn't that selfish? There are enough people. The child can also become a bad person.
No. It's a moral stance. You stand up for your country and the survival of its people.
Do you mean those who were allowed to immigrate because the birth rate here has declined so much?
I think it's more selfish to forgo having children for obvious career or personal reasons, such as weak nerves.
That's your good reason.
I refer to above.
Which one? I haven't heard of one yet.
However.
So, if we stick to the actual topic of the question: There are also reasons for children that are not selfish.
and trillions of animals that are bred and suffer only for humans.
In any case, it is only an unproven fact that all this is caused by people farting.
Then all the environmental disasters, heat refugees, and melting polar ice caps are just a figment of your imagination. Okay ❤️
This Russian app? No thanks.
And I don't know what “alternative facts” you're falling for.
But man-made climate change has not been proven and is actually based only on theories, as you can read here: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klimawandel
The most beautiful thing is the introductory phrase:
Most people simply talk about global warming. Otherwise, it quickly becomes obvious that the whole thing is contradictory.
Okay, there's no need to argue with right-wingers and conspiracy theorists.
It's a fact, not a theory. Please don't hang out on Telegram too much.
Oh, all this climate change nonsense is pure nonsense anyway. It's all based on theories. There's no consensus yet on whether climate change will lead to global warming or global cooling.
In doing so, one makes oneself an immature tool of the Green Party by voluntarily erasing one's own gender.
No matter how many people live in this world, the Earth is still overpopulated and is exploiting the planet, slowly or surely destroying it. There's no need for more environmental destroyers.
A child produces 58.6 tons of CO2 per year, a car only 2.4 per year.
Ensure the survival of humanity
The world is already overpopulated.