What do you think of the new ECX trains that DB has bought?
DB has ordered 23 Talgo trains that will run between Berlin and Amsterdam from 2023
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But how does he get his energy? No current collector on the roof.
Well, it should be faster, no change in locomotives at the border and the air conditioning will hopefully also bring about more than 25°C outside temperature
the current he takes from the locomotive hanging on the back. What can be seen on the picture is only the control carriage which itself has no drive
Since it is not a motor vehicle but a locomotive-loaded train, the current collector sits on the locomotive, which is not visible on the picture.
With an ES64 U4 a bullet.
From the official side it is said that you want to use the Talgo Travca. It’s logical.
What are you doing? The U2 is my favorite from the series. The sound.
Will be no ES64 U4
You can also prestress an older ES64 U2, then it sounds more horny when starting (Dorian conductor)
Inside it is interesting for me as a train traveler.
I only think about the metronome from HB.. one sits up, rolls it like on a ship, no reasonable stowing possibilities for things bigger than handbags.. and the clothes hook so that the clothes hang between the guests.
Considering the journey to a training course for external trainers.
Thanks, Bombardier.
The Metronom Dostos are basically local transport vehicles that are not designed for standard baggage. The problem is very similar in many transport cars.
Wanking around the longitudinal axis (land vehicles roll, water and aircraft roll) has become worse in the latest Dosto generation, no idea why. Possibly of comfort due to soft spring, without at the same time improving stabilization.
DB Talgo inside: https://www.deutschebahn.com/de/press/search_mediapaket_ECx-3932956
The Metronom-Dostos are not only basically transport cars, they are simply what, because they drive as regular RB/RE
Optically, it doesn’t look bad, but more importantly, it looks like the interior.
Does it also belong to the basic equipment that the toilets are constantly cloged, the air conditioning fails and the doors are defective?
No, seriously how they look from inside would interest me
The technology will be built as well as in other modern trains.
Whether it is broadcasting is a question of appropriate handling by the travellers (not for free signages) and sufficiently short cleaning intervals. The former is an indelible problem. The latter, well, we know Bahn AG.
Since it is neither of Siemens nor of Bombardier, I have a certain degree of hope that these problems are more rare.
the 3D graphics look appealing https://www.deutschebahn.com/de/press/search_mediapaket_ECx-3932956
Talgo’s suspension technology is innovative, it saves weight and space at the same time and allows low-floor cars with continuously continuous cabin flooring as well as barrier-free door heights and the running properties, which you hear in this way, should also be good.
The design as a locomotive-loaded train has the advantage over a drive train with drive technology distributed over a plurality of carriages that it cannot be made more easily flotted in the event of a technical defect. This construction also saves development time and costs. And when a transformer burns, it doesn’t burn the whole train, it’s a safety advantage.
In a Spanish product, I assume that the air conditioning does not fail due to overload even at summery outside temperatures.
But what is not understandable is the aerodynamic concept. The train is to drive more than 200km/h and has a shape like a barrier wall. Clean ripping edges can almost enchant in aerodynamics, but almost.
the customer gets what he ordered. If the DB has a cheap air-conditioning system, it’ll fall out. A refrigerator from Liebherr holds longer than one from Candy
I didn’t know about it yet, but if there are relatively large toilets, I should go back to travel and grab a hot guy for every ride 🙈🤗
The development began at the end of the 30s. The test carrier was built in 1941. The Talgo I 1942. After that it is always further developed. I expect a built-in vehicle.
Opticiously, he is sympathetic to me inside and outside. The DB has been using the Talgos since the end of the 80s. I think a good decision.
Talgofan has been me since the 1980s. Of advantage, the height is equal, otherwise there is a lot to wait, so the sityp shown in the visualizations is allegedly not final.
However, for 230 km/h it could already be a somewhat more cut front. But no one remembers when the people sit in it.
A catastrophe from the interior. From series to series, more and more the sense of “value” is lost, which the trains had earlier.
In any case, the ECx are better suited for long distance traffic than the Twindexx. Let’s hope that they will also be clearly distinguished from Bombardier and Siemens.
If they prove themselves, I would also be positive about ordering other units.
I am also looking forward to the execution for the DSB.
From the outside it looks like a S-Bahn with too little doors. I lack the dynamics in shaping.
What should the ECx have visually with an S-Bahn? Except for the one-story they do not share many properties.
It doesn’t matter what a train looks like? I don’t get into a train because he looks beautiful, but to get there somewhere else.
But don’t like to drive. How fast is he? 15 minutes?
Is there another smoker compartment and food car?
Smoking area certainly not, a bistro car is offered. Probably self-service.
OK, then rather uninteresting.
15 minutes or much longer?
Yes, the train can drive for 15 minutes, it’s not a technical problem at all.
Smoker areas in Germany will probably never give again, the times are over. Bistro areas, on the other hand, will be found in the Talgos as well as in all long distance trains.
OK, I see.
Thanks for the detailed information.
255 meters including lok when it comes to the length.
Driving time? Berlin – Amsterdam is planned for 5 hours and 50 minutes.
Maximum speed should be 230 km/h, where the distance allows this.
The train is really high quality…
And in my opinion, “Besser than the ICE 4” is everything.
Yay, now, instead of 40 min, only 30 min are late :d
At least the quality should be better than some other manufacturers, which could have a positive effect on punctuality.
ECx is the working title for a Distance train the Deutsche Bahn, the Spanish company Patentes Talgo will be built and will be operational from 2023. The manufacturer shall: Units self- Talgo 230. ECx. Number: 23 trains 2025.
Somehow I can’t decide between, actually looks quite nice and what is this for square junk pile
I’m not a train fan, but I’m a fan of 😉.
Main thing he comes on time haha
In the sky is’ annual market??
I don’t care, they’re coming on time and you can sit.
The puzziness is likely to be better for those
No it should not be if the train is not working on it in general
The problems lie at three points:
For the first two, the transport company (in this case DB Fernverkehr) can do nothing, but in the last case it is possible to counteract the order of high-quality vehicles, precisely that is done with the ECx.
it is logical that the deuzsche web has a general “we come too late” problem, which is not due to software errors.
Lamborghinis are not even high quality, so this is a bad example.
But you do not have any delays due to door malfunctions or software crashes (both typical bombardment problems) if you do not have door malfunctions or software crashes, that is logical. Or what’s so hard to understand?
if you are driving a lamborghini you are not on time
Yes, she’s probably. Since the vehicles are neither of Bombardier nor of Siemens, you can be confident that you will have less technical interference.
I don’t want to live in it.
Front is Flat -> Not Aerodynaic -> More energy consumed -> Not cool
It’s not that easy. Clear tear edges can be aerodynamic.