What do you think about ground work?

I've read a lot today that some people find groundwork unnecessary…what about you? I think, no matter how good the bond may be, you should work from the ground at least once a week. Whether it's walking, lunging, calmness training, or whatever…the horse needs variety.

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calvari
3 months ago

Depends on what is defined as ground work.

I don’t think of adolescents who play around with their horse uncontrolledly or people who want to do the groundwork/learn, and then experiment ignorantly with the Longe. Because ground work must also be learned! Otherwise, it represents a great security risk!

Variety is of course nice for horse and rider, but can also be easily created from the saddle.

A certain basic education can be sustained and refined in everyday life, as my horses do not need extra ground work.

Well, I find ground work when it is used to build muscle and/or to prepare lessons. You don’t get around even before you ride.

I usually train 1-2 days a week from the ground. The focus is always on what else. With my Pomy, I do long-distance work or let him run free. With my other pony, I long a lot about Cavaletti and work on lessons. With my young horse, I do a lot of handwork to make him more gentle and build muscles.

Best regards calvari

lynnmary1987
3 months ago

BA is completely unnecessary waste of time when it consists of somehow moving the horse around without understanding what you actually do and why you do it.

Many people, unfortunately, feel that it is enough to put a carcass or knotneck and to take the saddle out of the saddle to BA.

Nope.

the horse needs change

No. At least not primarily. This requires professionally correct, continuous work on individual vulnerabilities.

BA can serve wonderfully – if man knows what he does and the horse has got the chance to learn what man actually wants.

A walk shouldn’t just be one side by side, if it has any added value than just fresh air in the lungs.

Iluvrohe
3 months ago

So I love groundwork, you can make scary training, circus tracts, handwork etc. as long as it does not overwhelm the horse. Change is important and strengthens the inner bond. You can learn a lot about the horse from the ground only by watching (in my opinion). Personally, I always briefly long before riding, especially in winter haha

I also think that everyone should do it from the ground

Walks are also great

ItsJustMe1212
3 months ago

So, at my former RB I did it like that – because he’s been ridden 5 times a week hadI only 5 times a week, and the owner didn’t work him anymore – that once a week I was just riding for a short time, and then walked, rode out, went to the stubble field to the groundwork or just made things in the terrain.

Sometimes, I’m less riddled and made handwork or even one of the other things, for example, if the day before was a busy riding lesson.

He always liked it and I’m sure he would still be on earth, he would still like it to him

Punkgirl512
3 months ago

Well, we need to define soil work more precisely. There are different directions.

No horse MUSS works in the sense of Longe, Langzügel and the like. When people deal with the horse (pure, out, veterinarian, hoof workers, …) it makes sense to have a certain basic education and to maintain this auxh.

How often and how intensively you do the extra wide topic of groundwork is left to everyone. I couldn’t imagine a day without any groundwork.

Urlewas
3 months ago

Listen, hear… “You at least…”

DIR remains unnoticed to do this. But it sounds a bit superb, which is why now as a non plus ultra for all and every and every and every want to demand.
There is always so much talk of “art-friendly” – a horse wants to spit around on a pasture and eat grass in an art-friendly manner, but nothing else but in the presence of his fellows. For “change” it would sleep and care for fur with his favorite mate. Nothing else.

Soil work can serve the fun of the rider, or the training of the horse, or the contact for the beginners. However, no continuous “various” regularity is necessary for this.

Silanor
3 months ago

I think it’s on the horse. I myself and my mare have a lot of fun on ground work. Gymnastics, walking, whatever it is – is my super motivated so I also enjoy it. That means we’ll do well three times a week. Riding is more in the background.

I find groundwork or work on the ground is the foundation for everything. If it doesn’t work on the ground, you don’t have to sit on it. Can’t be that you’ve only got the animal under control when you sit on it. But I’m more concerned about basic education and correct working up just before the horse gets rid of, etc.

What you do afterward is left to everyone.

Urlewas
3 months ago
Reply to  Silanor

You will hardly believe how many horses it “from above” works better than from the ground. The fact that a certain basic education and training originally took place from the ground is self-explanatory. But there is no need to continue with the “construction of the foundation walls” for at least 1x a week. If it makes someone happy – nice. Also, I am not completely dismissed to complete a course with a prestigious trainer. But that; simply because holiday in Marlieland is very inspiring.
If someone like you has more pleasure than riding – also beautiful. But if FS claims that every horse BRAUCHT this as a change every week, I can only shake my head over it.

Aylamanolo
2 months ago
Reply to  Urlewas

That’s how I feel.

Silanor
3 months ago
Reply to  Urlewas

I almost find that bad and I already know. Many horses only work from above. I find rather sad if the same rider is then ground by the horse through the area. Is in my eyes a certificate of poverty. Basics can also be requested again and again.

I’m not one of anyone’s demands to do floor work every week. I’m the only one who’s really behind me. It’s also on the horse. There must be more muscles up there before I can ride all the time, especially since it’s nothing so important for me. The other horses look like rod work, longe, gymnastics exercises from the ground etc maybe 1 times a month when it comes up.

Need to do horses nothing like people ask of them I think that is logical. Don’t ride.

Correct groundwork is never bad in my eyes. But I wasn’t the person who meant everyone had to do this. I already gave my statement:

I think it’s on the horse.

Aylamanolo
2 months ago

I’ve never been a fan of groundwork. My mare, when she was young, had made groundwork with me for a few months – after Steve Halfpenny, every two weeks – but then I stopped. She could do what she was supposed to do and I found the rest boring.

If you want a change for your horse, you should ride out, you can offer the animal more variety than any groundwork. Experience a little adventure together every day is more valuable than any knitting.

I had a co-author who invested a lot of money in ground work. She had done courses with all famous coaches, except Linda Tellington!, Parellilevel had three. She was very consistent with her horse and worked a lot on the ground with her mare. Yes, her mare was infinitely more obedient than my mare. She didn’t even breathe without permission. She could send her to the hanger, for example, by a fingertips from 10 m distance. BUT she couldn’t ride with her without danger. The whole obedience of the horse was only tumults and when the cracks got cracks in crisis situations, it became very dangerous, by the way, the horse didn’t even like them especially because their coming always meant WORK. Whenever she came, the horse went away first and it always seemed fantastic.

No, I’m not a fan of groundwork. Mutual trust is created by every ride much more than by the stupid parelli games. I want to have a horse that believes me when I say, “I’m in French. And this belief, when the woman says that, is more valuable to me than any trained obedience.

However, with every cleaning you do soil work. “Look, here comes the push box.” “There, here comes the saddle… get your head down, I want you to drink. All ground work. But I’ve always responded to Roberts and Parelli. I don’t like slaves.

However, I had learned from my RL long-distance work for a year. 1x a week. This was fun and after a year with my mare I could do all the hoofing figures in step and trab, all the sidewalks in step and trab, behindhanding. And even a few piaffe kicks. But not much because it was very exhausting for them. After four to five tits, I left them again. We never did Galopp at the Langzügel because I had the shot.

It sounds very ugly, but according to my observation, many ground workers are in-truth fear riders. They don’t trust their horse!

Urlewas
2 months ago
Reply to  Aylamanolo

If you can’t ride, 100 years of ground work don’t change. When I was young, there was no “groundwork” unless you planted a field. But I had rided “yellow” on the grounds (right unorthodox, from books, without riding instructors…). Later I gave in a riding stable Longenunterrciht for beginners. When a ride arrived, which rarely happened there, I had a horse – our Longenhorse threw down all the other riders outside, but I had no problem. Simply go through the longing where the horse listened to the word like a dog, even though I had only learned rudimentary longing. Above all, however, probably because I rode completely fearless and safe. In the grounds I knew how it was.

And I’ve even experienced the reverse that a horse that I just brushed and rode quickly found itself in a bit of a situation. It has been discussed to call the fire brigade for recovery. Without any experience with groundwork, I could get speed to stay still until help came. Neither the former jumping horse nor I had ever done groundwork.

Baroque
3 months ago

A horse does not need a change or who cannot ride in a variety of ways should not ride independently.

Also, this talk of “entire bond” is an inappropriate humanization. Why don’t horses be just horse anymore. They prefer that they were born in this role and have always been. The fact that they accept a human being as their leadership is achieved or missed in every second of his presence in the stable, depending on how competently the horse is. This doesn’t happen through any exercises. People too often forget that they also get out of the herd, lead, brush, … that is, they are constantly working on training the horse.

Soil work in the sense of a unit can still be something: horse gymnastics (in the sense of medical gymnastics as well as sports training) and also prepare tasks and lessons that the horse can perform correctly without rider weight in order to learn them later under the saddle more easily. It makes sense. If you can. If you didn’t learn exactly how to ride, it’s better to leave your fingers and ride instead or just give the horse free.

Aylamanolo
2 months ago
Reply to  Baroque

If you can

I don’t know a parellian who can!

Kisajelo
3 months ago

There I am with you, who gives his horse exclusively controlled movement in fom of riding makes something wrong.

FunnyFanny
3 months ago
Reply to  Kisajelo

… well, don’t forget to give it…

Kisajelo
3 months ago
Reply to  FunnyFanny

Donkey is free movement…

Kisajelo
2 months ago

Right! And I answered that you should not exclude your horse controlled movement in the form of horse riding.

The fact that one does not go through a stiff training program and therefore looks different every week is logical, but in principle I agree with the FS that for each horse ground work should be on the training plan – be it a walk, longe or manual work now.

Urlewas
2 months ago

Eben: nothing! 😉

In the question we are working here, however, it is not about pasture, but about FS (cite from the question above): “one should work once a week from the ground.”

Kisajelo
2 months ago

I think you understand or I misunderstood your comment 🤔 What does groundwork have to do with pasture?

Urlewas
2 months ago

Already – but in the question is the steep thesis that once a week “groundwork” is mandatory….😉

Animalgirl0808
3 months ago

If it is done properly and properly, I am a huge fan of it, I also measure 2-4 days groundwork or terrain.

But if you do it wrong, the horse doesn’t need it.

In terms of gymnastics, of course, the horse is happy that you don’t listen to it because many have the zero idea of gymnastics, don’t ride my experience well

LaiTheDarkMoon
3 months ago

Soil work lays the foundation stone of work with the horse.
I was told that what does not work from the ground does not work from above.
On the one hand it offers variety, on the other hand it can be healthy for the horse.
Of course, ground work can also be less beneficial if executed incorrectly, but I personally work a horse rather from the ground than from the saddle because it brings both sides a lot.
This, of course, presupposes “to listen to the animal.”

Urlewas
3 months ago
Reply to  LaiTheDarkMoon

“Mir was once said 😉

pony
3 months ago

floor work is any contact with the horse.

pony
3 months ago
Reply to  Ponyliebe864

then your definition is wrong.

Urlewas
3 months ago
Reply to  Ponyliebe864

So going for a walk is groundwork for you, but the maintenance of the basic education at the plastering site or the reasonable lead to the coupling and the decent parking and standing still are not for sitting up? And longing is under groundwork for you, although it is generally not under groundwork, it would be a completely different subject, which is by no means a varied activity for the horse. This, by nature, finds nothing more absurd than walking in circles. In order to long, you will definitely need other extensions as “to create change”.

RandomUserGirl
3 months ago

Soil work is important for binding between man and horse, I find ground work important

Aylamanolo
2 months ago
Reply to  RandomUserGirl

No, I don’t. DA is better for every ride.

Urlewas
2 months ago
Reply to  RandomUserGirl

I never had to. And often has more “binding” than I love. I don’t want to marry a horse. Binding is created entirely by itself or not…