Aren't "INCELS" unfairly insulted?
The so-called incels are dismissed as "stupid misogynists" because they "don't get any"… Of course, there are some stupid misogynists, but the more you deal with the topic and look at the reality, the more you realize that the "incels" have a kernel of truth in their message.
You just have to look at what dating was like in the 60s, 70s, or 80s. Just talk to your parents or grandparents; most will tell you that it wasn't a problem. Anyone who wanted one could find a partner. Also, very few people will ignore the fact that our world has changed dramatically; the demands on men are completely different than they were back then. Added to that is the fact that our world is becoming increasingly emotionally neglected.
Loneliness is increasingly becoming a disease of civilization, because girls won't even give you a chance if you don't meet certain standards. A friendly "Hi" on the street isn't reciprocated, and striking up a conversation has become impossible. If you're a testosterone-fueled man with a cool BMW and charisma, then maybe it'll work. Everyone else… well, look at the picture on the bottom right; those are the others; they have a hard time getting laid.
Money is becoming more and more of a deciding factor. Women need someone who works, who's achieved a lot, who (preferably) has a car. If you're from the Harz Mountains or an unemployed nobody, you have little chance, and yes, that used to be different! On top of that, everyone's just staring at their phones these days; everything happens digitally; hardly anything is done together. All of this and many other factors create a plethora of lonely guys! This clearly leads me to the conclusion that incels are being unfairly criticized!
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A woman does not need to worry, so today they can choose whether to enter into a partnership or not. That’s the point.
beautiful birth rates here in europa or? see zb African countries, sihee Muslim countries, something they seem to do something right they do not die demographically in contrast to Europeans. (but please don’t misunderstand, such circumnavigation with colors I don’t wish in europa!) but it’s a fact that they grow, we shrink
We are not nursery machines and decide for themselves. You’re wondering about Incels being badly talked about, and you can’t think about it. No, men who need to give such a thing and we don’t want women.
It’s not a duty to get kids.
Thank you
All right, nix.
I actually misunderstood you. Mia culpa sorry magnus
I think you misunderstood me here, it was only about correcting the statement about conscription. Otherwise, we are quite in agreement here in this discussion.
Actually, insane enough to enter this Whataboutism with the war. Is actually completely Off Topic. 🙂
well that may be but in fact nobody forces you into war. Women are allowed to enter the Bundeswehr right now. And the aspect of birth rate is not a responsibility that can be given a sex. Especially since the government does not do enough to relieve families and, above all, single parents (because when the separation comes is usually the woman with the children).
So we are miles away from talking about a duty. on both sexes.
Correctly it is necessary to say here that the conscription still exists, but is currently (still) suspended. This can be reactivated at any time. She never got lost.
the one is a decision of the government. the other a decision of an individual
it is not as if women had been demonstrating and say hey let’s get out of the war but only men!
for a long time women were not allowed or liked to see in the Bundeswehr. This problem is therefore created by men themselves.
and the statement because we are going to war since it is responsible for the birth rate is only legitimate when we are forced to war in this long. but you won’t. There’s not even a conscription.
Therefore, the statement is zero true
Of course not, I never asked. I would like to say this to the governments concerned, if they were to war. What we are not currently doing and therefore the subject is not at all.
Well, if they haven’t been donor machines since then, we’re no more cannon food in wars.
That’s the Incelmist you have. There is no right to sex with another person. Come on. Incels are not good guys, otherwise they would have partners.
that was deliberately provocatively expressed… in the core, but the statement is true, but no matter what, it’s another thema… the point is simple, the women shouldn’t be a bear machine, or let everyone get in. only a certain openness for good youngs who would have actually deserved to love to get, udn less claims that would at least be desirable
Why that worked on picture 1 earlier was also simply the fact that the radius was limited by getting to know people.
Today, however, Tanja can also get to know and fall in love with Florian from Leipzig via the Internet. They probably wouldn’t even know each other before. The selection was very limited for both sides. In addition, women often also needed the provider. So a man had to come here what wanted and believe me more than enough women wanted the man they had not necessarily or then it was simply a “I take what comes” and at that time there was also the pressure of society that one needs a man and family.
Today the woman doesn’t have to take a man she doesn’t want. Rather, she was liberated from her compulsion. If the women had already had the choice and freedom, there would probably have been a lot more singles. The men have rested much too long on their state of being powerful and accustomed to being the rulers.
But the times are over, and now who really has the reins.
By the way, it’s actually quite natural. When you look at animals, it’s almost always the way the female animals finally have the last word in their choice and partners that they don’t want to reject and distribute. And even there, many males don’t get a chance to pass on their genes. Because that’s some education at the end, giving genes further from the natural point of view.
Well…
So we’re talking about yours or my grandparents? When we talk about mine, we can go back to 1940 and – you’re right – then the times were still different. Women weren’t even allowed to work independently at the time without their husband’s permission… oh, wait a minute, the work without the husband’s consent was even denied women until 1977.
Did you consider that in your efforts to compare the times of today with those at that time? Probably not, otherwise you would know that women were practically intended to find a husband because otherwise they simply had no way of getting money. It’s hard to live without money.
The mistake of Incels is to believe that all women have the same demands – for that there is a thick clown nose.
Oh yes and many men project too much of themselves on women. You should understand that women don’t find the same horn as you – at least not usually. A BMW suggests a maximum (as long as it is not only leased) that you can take care of yourself, because only a few women stand on types that need to be fed through by their mamis or even their future partners. It is really not hard to put this thought-acrobatics brand “I must be rich and an adonis to be able to get a woman off” off. Just look around in the real world and then show me how many women with any “alpha” men are walking around on the street and how many of the guys are really apparently 0815.
Doesn’t need it because women are now allowed to earn their own money, as mentioned. If you are looking for a partner, are you looking for the unemployed or those who need support?
Yes, for example, this whole gesabbel and gejammere here and this pure desperation, which is spun from the Incels and which you can already smell at 10km against the wind, if you also have a touch of sensitivity, as well as the pressure that the guys are making and the eternal casting on other types with which you compare, although you are actually NOT SO IST types.
And you are just like that or not? You want to have a pretty friend who doesn’t have to live alone, do you? So why are you supposed to be smiling and letting you know that women are sooo picky, if you’re the same, and you’re using it all?
Man, man, man.
No
Incels are losers who decide instead to seek help or to work on themselves a whole group of people simply to blame and hate your misery.
just as you decide to title a whole person group as a dirty
Now that you would press the Incel stamp yourself I argue that it is Incels who stamp themselves as a failure.
Don’t misunderstand interpersonal relationships aren’t easy for all people I understand. But as soon as you begin to identify yourself as an incel you simply abandoned and decide to hate yourself blindly. And that’s what makes a failure
That’s Incel, too.
Whoever looks at sex as the strongest drive should look for help. That is exactly what many women do not want, someone who reduces himself or her from sexual shoots. Sex is not as great as many Incel imagine. Sex is not like in porn the highest of feelings.
My goodness, how much despair do you want to send out?
I don’t know what your Indudual problem is. I know various people/men who are absolutely unconventional attractive but are still in good luck relations.
If you have problems with interpersonal relationships and this would be so heavily burdened by you I recommend you visit a psychologist
Okay, let’s try this: you’re unemployed, you’re 1.60 tall, we say 50kg. bsit really a dear young, a good person who would have earned usklcih love… how would you do? and now don’t say “going” or fitnesstudio… on the road you get on a “hi” also no answer these days… so you go ahead? and yes, you want sex, is the strongest drive in the human body, udn SB doesn’t take anything anymore. so by the way…
because you can’t turn on your brain and ncihtmal in the position are so little to look at our society, but mostly “sager” and finished, is sooo much easier than to deal with
That’s a problem because???
The same world in people claim the people have become too sensitive and you can’t say anything more today? Don’t fit me like that.
If you don’t want to deviate from your own claims… this is the decision of an individual.
If you were an unwashed, unemployed hedgepenna at the time of your grandma, then you don’t have a deal that you would like to have, but the rest of it remains. It is only in the past that one has arranged himself in the sense of the main thing to anyone and not as today where the decision is more like: I don’t stay single.
Now you slide into the Incel Mysogin corner. Because this is an assertion that is not true. There are women who see this as a requirement but on the one hand not all and on the other.. sorry livelihood and with mid 30 a car is now no witchwork we don’t talk about the penthouse in New York.
Nope wasn’t. Not really. One had only more social pressure to lead a relationship at all. Not a good or happy one.
But has nothing to do with the Incel movement
So I’m sorry, I still don’t see an argument supporting your contribution.
you compare with pears in JEDER your answer!
I see differently. I have kept this consciously in the form so that one can go into it individually.
I quoted you, and I made it up.
therefore, if you think my comparisons will make you feel invited to justify this.
and why must a 1.60 tall man with 55kg and without work have chance? Why MUST give it a right that a society ensures that this individual gets a woman?
You’re talking about making love… That’s the mistake of thinking. You don’t deserve love. You get it or not. And be nice isn’t enough. This is not an argument for a relationship.
And what exactly are these meeting places to do? You want this to be a single market or what are you doing?
Incels throw themselves away. This is the core of her movement and her name. These aren’t SIngles who just don’t get away. These are singles who assert loudly the women/society who is always guilty of their existence.
You are not an incel when you die as a virgin and accept that.
But you are an incel when you say how you do it that you have a right to love and sex. And society is supposed to do something like your meeting places, whatever that should work.
At the end of the day it is simple Darwinism. If you don’t get rid of it, your gene pool just dies out. Point.
Is it sad and depremating for an indvidiuum? of course. but society has no responsibility for your happiness.
Would you date the 140kg and 1.55 large spherical Fabienne that has a pickled skin and believes the earth is flat? Probably not. So it’s completely normal to have claims. That yours may be lower than others is not a problem.
the whole reality that I experience every day again speaks to all your testimonials and confirms mine. No matter who I talk to or what you try, or how far you are also robbed, you don’t even get a “hi” or anything else, you ask yourself how the people can still get to know each other today from school. if you are a adult singel, and to this we say once again we have 1.60 It’s not about getting a big part of the good youngs that would have deserved to have no love, having a great opportunity to “go on” instead of offering our society for something possible (terffpunkt oä) they are simply thrown away as “incles” and you’ll be surprised to turn through without having sex and wives or rapier (in very rare cases)
If they are referred to as a detested women’s hate, then probably because of their detested female hatred. There’s nothing to justify.
Those who are seriously referred to as Incel should consult a doctor and make a therapy.
I can understand a certain resignation in men today. Many might just want to be close and affection, but the pretty ladies are more concerned with their representation on Instagram or the like and no longer focus on the interpersonal.
so it is
But has nothing to do with Incels and that their mysogine attitude is justified.
Dissolving people and that of the dating market through the Internet is simply harder is not disputed. But these are not arguments or even excuses to say women are too picky and as a man I have a right to love and sex because I am nice.
There have always been people who have not found a partner, even in the last century. I was there live and know who.
Don’t think that’s nice when you put Incels right into this drawer “Women’s Hatter”…
Sure, that was different in the ’60s…women weren’t as independent as today…
A little real core is already behind certain statements…but not everything…Gift anyway, Incels will find the nice friend…😌🐥
speak quietly with your parents or grandparents, most will confirm that it was not a problem.
What kind of proof? Of course, both parents and grandparents have a deal, otherwise they would not be
it is about that they have lived at this time and know how the world was at that time, and also the society. please consider before writing
Savage allegations like
You don’t have any chances for a resin or workless nobody.
but teach others to think about them before they “write” is already amusing. Surely you can prove your claims, or
Socially, the world was a bit different at the time – the people were still honest and were like them – today is all show… that you can compare badly with today as well as at the time you took what was there in his village or when you got pregnant in young years you got married before the birth most and stayed with the person no matter how it is – there are incredibly many older couples who are not happy… I would still rather keep my happiness than being with someone who can’t even think to the corner
instead of working on yourself, it is always the same the others are guilty
No, because they behave like that.
And then they want a sexual liberation as in the graphic quite right, as many women as possible for themselves and the women have nothing to say. No, thanks.
Honestly… Your Incels hasn’t been quite normal anymore. Because you haven’t been getting a wife since, you won’t be surprised. Find the mistake! And then you blame women. That’s how you stay single forever.
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men who had never love and sex in life and who are desperate have to listen to something like that, zero pity… yes click on “Report negatively” at all my followers, what else you cannot be unresolved beings!
What you do is unthinkable
if our society were normal in the head, both sides would be served, both sides must be stuck somewhere. but the greatest suffering the incels… ncihts is worse than lonely
No. They think of any mischief and the self-filling prophecy then occurs.
You can see what you’ve been walking for an egg. What you write here is extreme bullshit.
What comes from you is nothing but misogyne ideology.
where did I say anything against women? I have only addressed a controversial thema where in many seemingly pervert the assurances (how to catch a wound point?)
you claim that all or most women are only in money and power.
Besides, you say women are the reason for loneliness as a disease because I don’t even quote them to react to a hi.
That is mysogine statements. This is the problem with the Incel movement that you put so deep inside in the hatred that you don’t realize what you actually give.
Who’s smiling around here?
Son of a bitch. Not everyone who has no partner is like Incel. Incels are by definition the women’s haters.
you didn’t understand my point. it’s about the critique that the incels about our society has a true core…
No, because Incel are screwier who can’t accept that they are screwier and blame for their suffering
Well, Incel is translated as much as “unvoluntarily sexually abductive”. It’s true to me. I am respectful to women, but even a simp on the Internet.
Yes God, listen to the stupid names, be single and enjoy life
I wish you’d just leave us women alone. Nobody’s holding it.
people want love, each young wants to have a french, udn also sex. that is the strongest buzz in men, z usagen lets women rest like “listen on breathing”… yes I know more exaggerated compare, but so it is for vile. that everyone wants! and if you are left alone and left alone, you are shocked and directly cursed because you want a friend, that’s something you don’t want! I also like you shed it sometime
No. People like you really have to stop harassing women. Not only women, generally society. You’re awfully annoying and a burden. You are pushing up your pain and your sick idiology. You don’t need a woman but psychological help to get clear with yourself.
Never. Just calm down. With this rough despair, it won’t be. We owe you nothing.
Uff. All these arguments can be summarized with “women are guilt” and thus create hatred against women. This is all so complex.
No, women don’t always want the all-hearted chads. In contrast to your mentioned decades, women are no longer dependent on a man. Women earn their own money and enjoy the single existence.
Not only women have become more picky, also men, mainly through superficial online dating. That’s it. not only Bad. Now a relationship is more likely to end when you are unhappy, instead of staying in it for years because you have no other option.
Ultimately, you can only brainwashed by the Red Pill community. As a woman I can tell you, most of us want a loving partner with whom we understand well. Appearance, money, status etc. are much less worth.
this is your interpretation, but the women could behave differently, as well as men and our society as a whole should behave differently.
Why should society adapt to a few sick incels? There are groups that deserved it before incels that the society would have adapted to them because people do not choose it.
I am sick, I have ADHD and autism, the society as it is breaking me because I cannot fulfill the expectations of these and do not understand the latest normal people. Yes, it would be nice if society would better adapt to sick people. She doesn’t. And I’m not the last one to lose. And I chose light to be sick. You’re looking for your self-pity.
What should women do differently?