Wenig Gehalt unternehmen?
Findet ihr das normal, wenn ein potentiell zukünftiger Arbeitgeber wegen 50€ herumheult? Das Mindestgehalt laut Kollektiv beträgt 1645€, auf die Frage wie viel ich mir vorstellen könnte, meinte ich 1700€. Da wurde so getan, als hätte ich 2000€ mehr im Monat verlangt. Da bekommt man weder gratis Getränke, noch z.B. Öffitickets, weiterbildungsmöglichkeiten sind zudem nicht vorhanden. Zur Info ich habe eine wirtschaftliche Ausbildung. Ich meine mein Wunsch von 50€ mehr im Monat ist jetzt nicht übertrieben, oder, wenn man bedenkt, dass die ja gar keine benefits haben und Leute nach Jahren im Unternehmen noch immer keine Gehaltserhöhung bekommen. Ich denke da ja langfristig und wenn ich eh schon weiß, dass von ihrer Seite aus immer nur das Mindestgehalt lt kollektiv gezahlt wird, egal wie lange man dort arbeitet, darf ich ja wohl 50€ mehr „verlangen“. Die Abteilungsleitung meinte ja das muss erst über mehrere Instanzen etc, ist schwierig, die mögen das nicht so gerne, wenn Leute mehr verlangen, aber sie versucht es trotzdem etc. +ihr müsst euch vorstellen, ne Kollegin von mir mit den gleichen Voraussetzungen wie ich verdient 1900€ netto und das, obwohl sie in einem Dorf arbeitet. Ich würde dann in einer Hauptstadt wohnen, was mMn noch „unfairer“ ist. Gleicher Tätigkeitsbereich, aber darum gehts nicht. Es geht darum, wie wegen 50€ herumgeheult wurde… Ich wurde für nächsten Freitag für einen Probetag eingeladen bis dahin will mir die Ansprechperson bzgl des Gehalts mitteilen, wie es aussieht. Aber irgendwie möchte ich da nicht wirklich 2 Stunden verschwenden, wenn ich aufgrund des Verhaltens schon erahnen kann, dass die mir die 50€ mehr sowieso nicht anbieten werden. Am Umsatz kanns btw nicht scheitern, so viel wie der Geschäftsführer(familienbetrieb) jährlich an Umsatz erreicht.
Why should you be the stupid ones that can be dumped, although higher wages are common in the industry? Also with €1,700 you are below the average if your colleague earns €1,900 net for a comparable activity. The prerequisite for the comparison is that you are in the same tax class.
If you have better alternatives, I would cancel the trial day at your place. Inciting you that the company reacts in this way is not targeted.
Giwalato
Thank you for the answer. Unfortunately, I don’t have alternatives at the moment, but the next few days will simply write more applications and will not sell me under value. I didn’t do it because I thought there was a job…
How much hours a month? Full time can’t be there, far below minimum wage.
I would like to thank you and apply elsewhere.
But it’s full time. Living in Austria vil therefore. If a job was a specialist in the sales service and that is really the minimum. She said the trade pays badly in general, only I didn’t understand what the action has to do with it. and quite honestly I guessed for the beginning, but as already said, they don’t even increase the salary for several years. Logically that you will not be satisfied with the minimum if you know sowss
I don’t know how low salary is in Austria, but for the salary, I wouldn’t even put the alarm clock.
The company “heult around” as you say so beautifully, because they probably don’t want to have a single deal. There’s a certain salary, that’s okay or not. You could also ask why you’re so gay about $50. After all, this only meets you once, a company, if necessary several times and thus in a higher sum.
Everything gets the same at the level, the first starts with me but I want 50€ more, the next comes with 60€, with 40€, with 70€ and already it becomes more confusing and if that comes out also more expensive, because the without supplement that will want.
However, the company is also very likely to depress the budget €50, as I have already said, whose turnover I have already looked at;) or everyone knows that companies always have a “span” for wage negotiations (clearly there are exceptions), but of course they want to have good labour for a cheap salary. Just don’t do good people. This is also the reason why all of us have a poorer degree than I have, because all those who are equal to my training are not at all familiar with this. The times when you had to beg/go after companies are fortunately over and as an applicant you now also have requirements. Then there is no working relationship. The fact that a former assistant is now working shows how deep they are sinking in order to find labour for this position at all. Then you should also note this at the job ad and not lie around that there’s air up there. Or run a phone interview in advance. Please remove the expert from your profile have no idea and are smiling
I know that well. I am surprised that even today so many still pay so little.
Employers complain that they have recently been hosted by candidates (the labour market has been improving for applicants at least temporarily since the end of the pandemic). But that’s not a miracle if they still want to live out their work.
The salary, I suppose you’re talking about a gross salary, would be net 1,200, that’s a joke for someone with commercial training. Even ten years ago, it was unharmed.
Get in public service.
Ne’d be nice, but still is little for full-time. V.a. at current prices and the fact that the salary does not increase anymore, despite several years of professional experience.
I did, but that was so bad that I was going to ask for another job. Was not satisfied with their conception. They just wanted to go through their unnecessarily question catalogue. But the salary was already mega…
Citizens’ money + unofficial work is today’s trend for good merit.
So, unfortunately, many are, there only helps to apply elsewhere. :
I do, but they all feel the same. They don’t even take over the costs.
You shouldn’t go to work for so little money. Especially if you have a training. It is worth even more citizens’ money.
Yeah, and then rumbling, why people get money from the state… Just ridiculous
You have an economic training and don’t deserve enough money?
Don’t sell yourself under my friend.
Even in a profession I did not learn, I earned much more.
Yeah, well, there are even companies that give me a message. Where I think I am even overqualified for you and for the hunger reward would otherwise feel no person would work, but yes. They think it would be.
I would never have thought that you earned so little money with training, I have only made a retraining in my profession 6+3 months to the factory protection professional and I am going to be monthly with 2300 in bad months and 3200 in good months net home.
So I think you’d be much better paid here in D
Bad. I just saw another place. Office Alltounder, 40 hours in a tax advisory office. Minimum grade lt collective 1969€ gross. Kp as it is allgmein, but have often seen such salaries and finds bad.
What is the minimum wage in Ö?
I’d rather have a better salary
For this you have the great sweet food in Ö:)
Be a pleasure. A colleague from a related has studied, several years of professional experience and has earned 2,400-2500€. He is now unemployed and finds no job because the other companies pay so badly…. Can be happy, but perhaps it is simply better with you in Germany and we here in Austria live in an even shimmering slave system
Madly greedy the pack and then wonder why they don’t find anyone.
If you want a future then disappear and don’t become a slave.
That’s it. I don’t think they all heard the shot. And especially if I finally want a job, I would only support this exploitative system. Because only because of people who really work for 40 hours for such an act, it’s still ecising. We all have to boycott this,
Never get into a family business there you can’t climb sowiso.
Find another place.
I know that’s why it’s even more ridiculous… but the others want to feel all the professional experience of several years and now also a third language in addition to English. And then say that you get 2400€ gross!
There is generally no minimum wage in training. So you’re paid a lot less.
I don’t know what you mean by “collective.” If there is a collective agreement for your training over 1650€, then it is actually very complicated if a person is not in the collective agreement. You have to make a complete extra sausage for yourself. But I think it is unrealistic that there is a collective agreement of 1650€ in an education. That would be much too much money for training.
A realistic salary for training is 200 to 1000€ gross.
Otherwise, I can imagine that there is a misunderstanding between you and your employer between gross and net.
Many employers have only extra costs by offering training and do not profit with you. Because you’re not the same as a learned worker. Many employers therefore only offer training because they want to be social because they want to be nice to you.
If you appear so extremely demanding, even though you already cut into your own meat to help you, then employers can quickly get bad mood.
I’m sorry. Read me and react too fast. I thought it was a training, but you already completed the training.
Yes, and I mean school education for the sake of education with economic training. Come from Austria. I mean I was at the Volkschule/Grundschule, then 4 years at the Gymnasium sub-level, then 5 years at an economic school degree with Matura. “below” of this training there are other school trainings, which is why this makes even less sense. I don’t think I’m going to ask for much like a person who went to school for less years or hasn’t attended an economic school. Just as little as I would ask for as much as a Bwl graduate.