Welchen Ram für mein pc upgrade?
Moin, ich plane meinen pc zu upgraden und suche noch den richtigen RAM ich möchte 32gb arbeitsspeicher mit RGB haben bis 80 euro. ich habe hier an ddiesen von trident gedacht.
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07Z87ZMN3?psc=1&th=1&linkCode=gs2&tag=pcp05-21
ihr könnt ja mal sagen ob der gut ist oder andere Vorschläge machen.
LG
Hello
Since I can only recommend what should work at the end, I can only recommend a single 32GB DDR4-3200 Dual Channel RAM Kit.
https://geizhals.de/g-skill-trident-z-rgb-dimm-kit-32gb-f4-3200c16d-32gtzr-a1827609.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
I have only selected DDR4-3200 RAM modules here, because they fit perfectly with the processor specifications and because this ensures the best possible performance, with the highest possible stability. Higher or highest possible power, due to an even higher storage speed, then usually comes to the expense of system stability and is also only possible via overclocking, which is why I cannot recommend this.
If you still want to try MEM overclocking, with storage speeds outside the CPU specifications, to be able to use these storage speeds with correspondingly fast XMP RAM modules and possibly with more than two RAM modules, then you can try everything, but with all the problems that can result from it. That’s also your decision, but not my recommendation.
If you’re interested in what it’s about, just let it go.
The achievable storage speed depends not only on the RAM modules and not on the motherboard anymore, but primarily on the processor. The only mainboard is responsible for the achievable storage speed, which was once, a long time ago. Today, however, this is different since parts of the motherboard chipset, which are responsible for the RAM connection, are migrated into the processor. Therefore, today the processor is primarily responsible for the achievable storage speed and no longer alone the motherboard and the RAM modules.
The storage speed is not set at the RAM modules, as is repeatedly mistakenly assumed, and also not on the motherboard, but the BIOS/UEFI of the motherboard adjusts the storage speed in the processor, with the aid of the JEDEC or the XMP memory profiles which are stored on the RAM modules. Therefore, the processor then also accesses the RAM with the storage speed set in it. This, however, only results in the memory clock. Otherwise, the RAM modules are neither self-clocked nor run independently with the set storage speed.
The processor is therefore that must run with the set storage speed and not the motherboard or any motherboard components. The RAM modules only have to be able to maintain the storage speed set in the processor, which regulates the specifications of the respective RAM modules and the BIOS/UEFI of the motherboard only has to be able to perform the settings for the desired storage speed, which is regulated in the motherboard specifications.
Therefore, it doesn’t matter what is written in the mainboard specifications, because there is not what storage speeds are guaranteed, but there is only the storage speeds tested on the mainboard, the BIOS/UEFI of the motherboard, on the memory controller in the processor, including the storage speeds that can only be achieved by overclocking the memory controller in the processor. That’s not what it says.
Storage speeds that can only be achieved with overclocking of the memory controller in the processor, which are usually characterized in the motherboard specifications as follows: (OC), (O.C.), (by A-XMP OC Mode)
The motherboards have been successfully tested with the storage speeds specified in the respective specifications and the RAM modules that have managed this are now also found in the Memory Support list (QVL) to the respective motherboard, but for these tests the motherboard manufacturers use specially selected engineering sample processors. Processors for the end customer market usually create these storage speeds not or only rarely and also not under warranty with the RAM modules from the memory support lists (QVL). Even with these RAM modules, the specified storage speeds are only reached when the inserted processor plays along, that is the condition.
The storage controllers in the Ryzen Series 5000 AM4 processors are designed for operation with up to DDR4-3200 RAM modules, when fitted with a storage bench (rank) per storage channel. This can also be read in the specifications of the respective processor.
https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/processors/ryzen/ryzen-5000-series/amd-ryzen-5-5600g.html
(see Connectivity)
For storage speeds, which can then only be used with faster RAM modules, the memory controller is forcibly overclocked in the processor used, which can function, but which does not have to function.
In addition, the maximum achievable storage speed decreases, the more storage banks (rank) are used per storage channel. This is due to the additional load of the memory controller by more memory banks and to the physical properties of the memory bus in the high-frequency range. It is easier to say that higher storage speeds can be achieved with two RAM modules, as with four RAM modules. This should be considered especially at MEM overclocking.
Whether and how high the memory controller can be overclocked in a specific processor, this cannot be predicted or guaranteed in advance. The one processor creates a bit more and another somewhat less, even from the same CPU series.
With the XMP RAM modules, this is the case: for these special RAM modules, the memory speed, from the BIOS/UEFI of the motherboard, is only automatically set with the help of the JEDEC memory profiles, according to the existing system configuration, just as for standard RAM modules. This storage speed is relatively low for the first time and corresponds to the actual storage speed for the XMP RAM modules.
The difference to standard RAM modules is that they only bring the JEDEC memory profiles but no XMP MEM overclocking memory profiles.
The JEDEC memory profiles are stored on the RAM modules in the SPD chip (Serial Presence Detect). There are also the XMP memory profiles. These are MEM overclocking memory profiles that need to be activated manually in the BIOS/UEFI. As a result, these special RAM modules are “overclocked” to their intended speed. In this way, higher storage speeds can be used with cheaper RAM modules.
With the help of the XMP memory profile, the MEM overclocking memory speed is set by the BIOS/UEFI of the motherboard, and still in the processor. But for storage speeds that go beyond the respective processor specification, the activated XMP not only “overclocks” the RAM modules, but also the memory controller in the inserted processor and that cannot work. This is also the real cause when XMP MEM overclocking does not work sometimes because in the case the settings by the XMP are too much of the good for the processor.
Workaround:
In this case, the storage speed would have to be manually engaged to set the storage speed. There may also be several XMP memory profiles available, one of which might work. Otherwise, the storage speed, when the XMP is activated, must be additionally manually throttled to such an extent that the processor operates in a stable manner or the storage speed, the timings and the RAM module voltage are completely manually set. Have fun.
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Moin,
based on the technical data, I have nothing to do with 3600 MHz sounds very good.
However, I am always somewhat sceptical about the brands at such “cheap” prices.
I’ve heard about the TridentZ brand before, but I’d be sure to get something you know.
Here would be my recommendation for you:
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32GB DDR4 3600MHz C18, High Performance Desktop Memory Kit – Black: Amazon.de: Computer & Accessories
Is in itself the same only from Corsair you can trust, hope I could help!
thanks!
Hello,
When comparing your requirements with your budget, the bars here are probably the best option.
https://geizhals.de/g-skill-trident-z-rgb-dimm-kit-32gb-f4-3600c18d-32gtzr-a2154649.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
In white:
https://geizhals.de/teamgroup-t-force-delta-rgb-weiss-dimm-kit-32gb-tf4d432g3600hc18jdc01-a2380729.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
https://geizhals.de/adata-xpg-spectrix-d35g-white-edition-dimm-kit-32gb-ax4u360016g18i-dtwhd35g-a3024046.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
Alternative:
https://geizhals.de/g-skill-trident-z-rgb-dimm-kit-32gb-f4-3200c16d-32gtzr-a1827609.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
https://geizhals.de/adata-xpg-spectrix-d35g-white-edition-dimm-kit-32gb-ax4u320016g16a-dtwhd35g-a3024051.html?hloc=at&hloc=de
LG
Hey, thanks for the answer, only the one of Trident you sent 3600 mhz and the other 3200, and since I have one on 4 (5600 g) is then a 3600 mhz ram compatible at all?
Can work, but don’t have to. With the 3200 MHz you are on the safe side. You could also have the 3600 MHz bars clocked to 3200 MHz