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FeuerAdler621
1 year ago

Both were bad. You can’t compare it there are 25 years in between

Janaki
1 year ago

The battles cannot be compared because they were not part of the same war. In the approximately 25 years that were between the two battles, the warfare has changed in such a way as previously only the invention of the black powder did.

In their brutality, however, both are equal; if there is a difference, then that Stalingrad was a decisive turning point for the Second World War in Europe – that was not the case with Verdun in relation to the First World War.

zetra
1 year ago

In the tank of Stalingrad died226.000 German Soldiers and other 300,000 Allies were killed around Stalingrad. Around 91,000 German soldiers were in prison.

She has 700,000 Victims demanded: about305,000 Dead and missing persons and 400,000 wounded, with almost equal losses in both opposing armies. The battles for Verdun continue until 1918.

Thus, in Verdun there are more dead, but this has not been a battle, it went longer here with the war, so that it summed up.

Kartoffelpuffi
1 year ago
Reply to  zetra

Where did you get your numbers? The losses of the Soviets alone are estimated from 1.2 million, and this is only about the battle in the city itself. Verdun’s just coming to 800,000 losses.

zetra
1 year ago
Reply to  Kartoffelpuffi

1.2 million fallen Russians, alone in Stalingrad, should this be a joke?

The battle balance: more than half a million dead on the Soviet side, including numerous civilians. Stalin had long prevented an evacuation of the city. In the first days, more than 40,000 citizens of Stalingrad are killed by German air raids.02.02.2023

In this half a million civilians are also involved, which is generally called collateral damage. So always sat nicely with the big numbers

zetra
1 year ago

No cause.

Kartoffelpuffi
1 year ago

Rumyantsev, Vyacheslav (ed.).“Stalingradskaya bitva” Сталинградская битва[Battle of Stalingrad].Hrono.info (Chronos: World History on the Internet)(in Russian). sets the soweetic losses to 1,129,619.

The estimate of total loss of 755,000 will go back to Jankowski, P. (2014) [2013].The Longest Battle of the Great War. Oxford University Press.ISBN978-0-19-931689-2.

Thanks for your sources, by the way:)

zetra
1 year ago

What are you going to swirl together here, my figures are obvious, your 1.2 million to Stalingrad on the Soviet side, let’s go on and see.

Kartoffelpuffi
1 year ago

Losses denotes any soldiers who have failed to fight, whether by dead, illness, injury, disappearance, etc.
Your number to Verdun is also a number of losses, not dead. So why do Stalingrad calculate the number of dead, but in Verdun indicate the entire mass of the failed soldiers?

Trimi98
1 year ago

Stalingrad was a boiler.

Kay08
1 year ago

Yes objectively it was Stalingrad. But you must not forget that the meaninglessness of Verdun was much worse. You were 303 days in a battle where you fought only by meters. Soldiers stormed from their trenches into the safe, cold death that ultimately meant nothing. And after the battle was defeated and thousands of favors have changed strategically nothing. The psychological effect of this culmination of the confrontation of the European Great Powers comes very close to Hell on earth, which is why it has earned the name of Amboss of the devil.