Webhoster will alle Dienste (E-Mail, Webseite) abstelle?
Mein Webhoster behauptet, ich hätte – als Vorsitzende eines Vereins – 2015 drei Domains bei ihm bestellt. Tatsächlich hatte ich nur eine Domain bestellt. 25.09.2022 – 7 Jahre später – schreibt er eine Rechnung für die Jahre 2022/2023. Muss ich, obwohl ich nicht mehr Mitglied des Vereins bin, diese Rechnung nicht bezahlen?
This depends on exactly what was commissioned. There are web hosting packages that contain several domains. They are also available when you register only one of them and have two more for later additions.
This is bullshit.
How else should clubs, companies or even authorities run websites if they could not register a domain?
Domains can be registered on natural and legal persons (and that also includes associations!).
If someone was named during registration and that was never changed despite leaving the association, this person is the contact person for the web host.
Then I wonder what happened all the years before when there was no invoice….
And to bill for billing period 22/23 is abundantly normal. Accordingly, the transit time up to 2023 is also covered therein.
No, the domain was rented as a club, but he registered the domains under my name (as damailge chairman). That’s why the hoster turned to me now. I have no written proof – neither about the rental nor an earlier invoice. Everything has expired orally
For clubs, go to the next chair as far as I know
Thank you – but actually I don’t want my successor (present club chairman). Can you make a bill after 7 years, which must be paid? My web host also told me: domains can only be rented by private individuals – not by associations. That’s why I’d be responsible for it now and pay the bill. If not, he’ll put it off the server.
The domains are in fact registered for a private individual, which is representative on behalf of an organization
An invoice expires at 1.1. after the third New Year after the invoice date
So, if the invoice is from 4.10.2015, then it is limitation on 1.1. 2018. This can be cancelled or extended by 31 December on time a payment reminder / reminder with deadline set
If you don’t want to transfer the domain to the new chairman, then cancel the domain for the next possible date and pay the fees so long, of course only for the domain from 2022
And if you allegedly ordered domains seven years ago, that should be understandable
I also did not write that this indicates that these data are no longer publicly available according to GDPR. It was also about the release date. DAS is important and otherwise: I have already given everything worth writing about it
I have just made – the two domains .de and .com are listed – but this does not result in who has logged it – so neither my name nor the club name is listed – only the server name.
I thank you for your answering, and I have to make it clear. Wish you a nice weekend.
I wrote
“So just look in the hosting package, where this should be recorded.
Furthermore, such data can also be viewed with limitation via whois.com itself”
What is whois.com? Thank you.
I’m writing, just look at the hosting package. DORT must also be viewed retrospectively and also the invoices if any
Have you looked at whois.com whether and when they were registered?
I’m sorry. I read that. But since I don’t have an invoice (no one got) – I don’t have a date either. The hoster has emailed me a screenshot of 2015, since all three domains are listed – but I cannot remember the best will to have three domains ordered – one (.de) yes – but in the invoice (with the current date) 3 domains are billed – is that this invoice is valid?
Read what I wrote
“An invoice expires at 1.1. after the third New Year’s Eve after the invoice date
So, if the invoice is from 4.10.2015, then the limitation period is on 1.1. 2018. This can be cancelled or extended by entering into a payment reminder/payment notice with deadline set on time at 31.12.’
And more
“And if you allegedly ordered domains seven years ago, that should be understandable”
So just check in the hosting package, where this should be recorded
Furthermore, such data can also be viewed with limitation via whois.com itself.
I should pay for 2022/23 almost 500,00 € for 3 domains. Can’t be billed for 6 years and then it falls to the hoster – and he bills “Hosting and domain management for 2022/23” over 499,80€? Isn’t it like limitation?
That’s good. Then the hoster has no proof. Write to him that only one has been ordered, that part of the invoices is statute-barred, and that he has to comply with the club.
And then I would warn the club that they should look for a new (serious) host and secure all data already 😉
Yes – I had been given this tip a year ago – now I will pass it on.