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flythesky
1 year ago

Greetings

What should I do if I have been camped via PayPal friends and family?

  1. Learn to formulate questions completely if you want to help you.
  2. Do not ignore ALL security notes on PayPal and classifieds! Friends and family are for FREE AND FAMILY! It’s a gift. Why did you give someone money if you didn’t want it?

Otherwise the default answer:

For background information:

If you buy something and don’t get the goods, it’s a commodity credit fraud. If you buy something and never pay, it’s a credit fraud. Both fulfil the facts of §263 StGB – Fraud

So you can go to the police and reimburse ad, so the target account – in the case of Paypal (the more data you would have from the seller, the better, but as I said, the email address of the recipient is enough… )

The following is important for you:

The police take care of prosecution,notbut for civil law!

This means that even if the sentence in court would be sentenced to 10 years of imprisonment and 50000 euros (he won’t, will only make it clear with the exaggerated example), you won’t.

In parallel, you have to open a civil law procedure… You’re doing that best over a civil attorney. The latter may also access the results of the police by discontinuing the file and make the claim(s) to the accused personnel.

You have to take over the attorney’s fees yourself first, but then you will be asked by the accused if you should get right, i.e. In the case, you don’t have to pay anything by yourself… To get money from the perpetrator… so there’s a residual risk…

Very important: First, turn on a lawyer when the police found a perpetrator! Otherwise you will definitely be at the expense! The lawyer won’t find a perpetrator…

And for the next time, of course, not just ignore all security notes and do not transfer them to (Ebay) classifieds. And if, then NOT WITH FAMILIY AND FRIENDS! Then, as you’ve probably found out, you don’t have a buyer protection. So do NOT contact PayPal! They’d lock you up because you’ve been violating the AGB and they wanted to cheat on their fees!

But I’m also honest: I assume that you won’t see your money again, I guess the probability of investigation is about 20-25%…

Still: Much Success:)

Comp4ny
1 year ago

Everything happened about classifieds

It’s a threat that PayPal doesn’t lock you up for life. Because both you as the VK commit fraud.

You can’t “do” with PayPal.
You can “make” civilian law with a lawyer. This is only worth a high value. All under 100 € should be viewed as an educational allowance.

A criminal complaint, if there is really fraud, you should always do, whether the ad is set or not. It’s in the central file on the person.

Mille175
1 year ago

has already happened to me, unfortunately you can’t do anything, so better with buyer protection, but in retrospect you’re always smarter

einandereruser
1 year ago

You can create an ad, then the police are trying to find the fraud.
If the thing is interesting for the police, they go to PayPal and ask the data of the fraud account.

In doing so, PayPal gets that you cheated on them by paying a delivery of goods via “friends”. This should cost you the account.

einandereruser
1 year ago
Reply to  ketchapp

You ask what to do, I gave you an answer.
What you do with it is left to you.

mchawk777
1 year ago

There can’t be much to do.
You violated Paypal’s terms and conditions.

Friends & family = “Send money”.

A donation is a one-sided legal transaction and the will to gift you have clearly expressed through the transaction in a secured system.

JayCeD
1 year ago

First of all, learn about it and don’t do it again.

In principle, you could also report fraud. You don’t get your money back. But maybe the cheater gets one on the roof.

Rubezahl2000
1 year ago

1. Annoy yourself that you are aware of your money weed have.
That the money is now irretrievably gone is your own fault.
Anyone who uses Paypal friends is violating Paypal’s rules, cheating Paypal for the fee and begging to get ripped off.

2.) The use of Paypal is basically only from 18J allowed.
If Minors Using Paypal, this is illegal anyway and goes towards crime (§269 StGB).

Sascha19er
1 year ago

Maybe describe the case better

miezepussi
1 year ago
Reply to  Sascha19er

Why? What is unclear?

Payment was made via paypal Family and nothing was sent

Sascha19er
1 year ago
Reply to  miezepussi

All w ask first answer how much money etc

HelmeSchmitt
1 year ago

You should take it as a teaching money, because neither Paypal nor Classifieds can and will help you.