ByTorrnado
man kennt das ja aus diversen Filmen und ich habe mich schon oft gefrag, was würde in der Realität passieren, wenn tatsächlich beide Piloten durch irgendwelche Umstände ausfallen würden ? jemand müsste doch das Flugzeug landen – aber wer ? werden für solche Ausnahmesituationen etwa Stewardessen dafür geschult ?
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Loading...Ich habe eine Serie gesehen in der ein Flugzeug auf dem Radar verschwunden ist und dann Jahrelang nicht gefunden wurde. Alle Passagiere wurden für tot erklärt aber das Flugzeug wurde ja trotzdem nicht gefunden. 5 Jahre später ist es dann aufgetaucht. Heißt das wenn ein Flugzeug auf dem Radar verschwindet, ist es abgestürzt? Könnte doch…
Wenn nein, warum nicht? Ich meine, man könnte doch die Brennelemente extrem gut geschützt bauen, sodass beim Aufprall des Flugzeuges in einen Berg, Gebäude oder Ähnliches der eigentliche Behälter nicht explodiert und intakt und geschützt bleibt. So könnte man sogar sehr große Flugzeuge bauen die dann Zehntausende von Menschen von New York nach Hongkong fliegen…
I saw an airplane approaching today – with alternately flashing landing lights… What is the purpose of the flashing?
Ich habe bei einem Reisebüro einen Flug von Wien, mit Austrian Airlines, bis Frankfurt und dann mit Condor weiter nach Punta Cana gebucht. Nach langer Versucherei bin ich draufgekommen dass mein Vor- und Nachname vertauscht wurde. Soll ich nun beim Reisebüro um eine Änderung bitten, oder dieses Problem eher vorm Flug am Schalter bekanntgeben?
Hallo ich buche zum ersten Mal ein Flug und da steht Option wie nur Handgepäck kostenlos oder 20kg kostet halt heißt es dann was ich mit in Flugzeug reinnehmen kann oder ist das auch Koffer gemeint sprich Koffer ist ja kostenlos was man am Schalter abgibt oder?
Der Scooter hat 97Wh, ist 2,9 kg schwer. Wer kann mir was sagen, oder wo bekomme ich genaue Informationen. Danke
Hello,
no, stewardesses (or flight attendants) are not trained for such cases, why? For all aircraft from 19 seats, the cockpit door is locked and can only be unlocked from the inside. And even if someone would get into the cockpit, the pilots would have to be removed from the seats first. Then the heroes of the lies have to get an overview, leave an emergency call and wait for help. Of course, you would try to provide support from the ground, but the chances for survival would be minimal and would rather be against zero.
Then you can’t compare a plane with an FSX simulator, although some people do that safely. However, if an A320 captain with many thousands of hours of flight and a rating as instructor and examiner says that he would have difficulty flying and landing a B737, this is more meaningful than the statements by some GF experts”.
Furthermore, neither FAA nor EASA would have allowed a two-man cockpit if they had considered the risk of default to be too high.
And the times of a fish poisoning of both pilots have also been over since the film “Flight in Danger” from 1964. Films live of drama, but have nothing to do with reality. No captain would, for example, also have the idea to cut through some wire (no matter whether red or blue) in a bomb found.
Thanks for your very competent answer!
Thanks for the star!
That’s not a problem. Planes can also land with autopilot. By radio, someone could explain exactly what they need to set up in the autopilot.
A real problem is, however, when no one is aware of the code for the cockpit door and is closed. Then the aircraft will continue to fly on the current course at constant speed until the fuel exits. No one in the passenger room can change anything else. I therefore think the cockpit door is an enormous security risk and the incident with Germanwings will not have been the last one where this closed door leads to death victims.
The door is not that problem, but to explain someone via radio, which switch it has to press. Very time-consuming and no feedback when something goes wrong. And the big problem is first to establish the radio contact. It will usually fail.
Exactly. You know that from movies. And only from movies.
In principle, aircraft can also land with autopilot. And this could also be programmed by a flight attendant, especially when you tell her about the radio. That would happen. Someone would tell her about the radio exactly what she has to do.
In addition, you would redirect all other planes and give them the longest runway. Normal pilots have to realize that they are not alone in the sky and hold a very precise flight path. If there’s an emergency like this, it wouldn’t be like that anymore. Then the others would make room.
I can’t say how often this happened, but the last hope would be if there’s a pilot among the passengers who can land the plane.
If this were the case, the airline would have to write off the aircraft as a total loss and the remains of the crew and the passengers would have to embark on their home trip in the zinc sarg. Neither a flight attendant, a hobby pilot or an old military pilot who once flew an army helicopter could land the machine. It may be that Hollywood sometimes wants to convince us of the opposite, but the reality looks different. Fortunately, such incidents are as good as never before, which is why no precautions have been taken on the part of air carriers.
if a pilot accidentally would be on board, he would still have better chances – purely theoretically – to put the plane to the ground halfway (with the help of the tower) than any other Pasagier, who, for example, had zero flying experience or does not have a pilot certificate, does it?
If it happens to be a pilot who has a type rating for just this type of aircraft in which he is sitting, he could land the machine. However, a pilot with a type rating for a Boing 747 would have some problems landing an Airbus, although this would be easier for him than for a hobby pilot who only flies small aircraft or for a PC-nerd who only knows FSX simulators.
So: key no, access to the cockpit yes.
No, no more
Yes, it is
That’s not what’s supposed to be.
but the flight attendants must have the keys, right?
The problem is that the pilot, who is just under the passengers, should somehow come into the cockpit. The doors between the cockpit and the cabin cannot be opened from the outside.
There are things in life that are so unlikely that there is no plan B. There was a double pilot accident with a few abductions and suicides (PSA FLug 1771 and 11 September). A pilot training is less expensive to pay for a few thousand stewardesses is simply not possible. The stewardesses are finally there to serve the passengers and prepare them for possible emergencies, not to play the hero!