Was kann ich gegen Mama tun?

Sie hat ein Organspendeausweis – unterschrieben das sie nicht spenden will.

Sie hat Angst nicht würdevoll beerdigt zu werden, aber sie wird ja wieder zugenäht.

Gespräche darüber enden in Streit dass es ihre Sache sei.

Ich find es nicht gut und spende selber Organe im Todesfall. Ich spende Blut für Essensgutscheine im Restaurant + Kochbücher, Regenschirm etc.

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Handyfrage234
5 months ago

Nothing.

Your mother is perfectly right, it’s her thing alone and is absolutely none of your concern 🙂

I am pro-organ donating myself and I would like to know if everyone would donate, but that changes, but that doesn’t change the fact that you have to respect the desire of patients and not the right to criticize them.

EinAlexander
5 months ago

Talks about it end in dispute that it is their thing.

Well, it’s also her thing and her opinion on it should be respected.

I don’t think it’s good

neither do I.

and donate organs themselves in death.

Me too.

But just like you and I want our decision to donate organs to be respected, your mother wants that too.

Alex

Coriolanus
5 months ago

You should respect your mother’s will. Everyone has to decide whether he or she wants to donate organs after death.

hachri
5 months ago

This is their sole decision and everyone has to decide for themselves. By the way, medically speaking, you can no longer donate organs in the event of death. Only ‘living’ organs can be planted.

hachri
5 months ago
Reply to  maxundmogli

As soon as the heart stops to beat, the organs are no longer supplied with blood and die, so are no longer suitable for a donation.

EinAlexander
5 months ago
Reply to  hachri

This is their sole decision and everyone has to decide for themselves.

You’re right.

medically speaking, you can’t donate organs in the event of death.

That’s bullshit.

hachri
5 months ago
Reply to  EinAlexander

Again someone who knows more like a doctor

Yuki123283
5 months ago
Reply to  hachri

Attention: The Sstz with “medical, you can no longer donate organs in the event of death” is technically wrong. The person must be declared brain death by 2 independent doctors who have nothing to do with a transplantation. The brain death counts as a safe death sign of a person. If after/while the brain death is immediately started with medication treatment and artificial respiration, the heartbeat remains (which is necessary for organ donation). Medically speaking, the person is dead.

hachri
5 months ago
Reply to  Yuki123283

Look at the official definition: irreversible standstill of breathing and circulation – medically seen. Stoppage of circulation means that no organ is supplied with blood oxygen and thus stops in function. So honestly what is so hard to understand?

Yuki123283
5 months ago

From Wikipedia (was not the best source, but still a good explanation for brain death, but may you like to research yourself even more):

The brain death is the irreversible end of all brain functions – with existing circulatory activity and artificially sustained breathing – due to nerve cells that have died extensively. The term brain death is a death definition introduced in 1968 in connection with the developing intensive and transplant medicine. The brain death is often seen as a safe inner death sign or an equivalent of human death.”

Can’t think anymore is a term that allows a lot of interpretation. The brain death is a medically defined term. There are several test methods to determine the brain death.

I can’t quite follow you now what this has to do with the human dignity. I’m not the one who writes that you donate the ordinary organs of still living people.

hachri
5 months ago

Yeah, and the next one defines that one is dead because he can’t think anymore, so he’s brain death. Can only shake your head. The Basic Law says that the dignity of man is inviolable! That should always be the same!

Yuki123283
5 months ago

The definition of what? The dead? A brain-dead patient who has artificially ventilated has a heartbeat, since the body is still supplied with oxygen and the heart does not need a brain to beat. However, breathing is controlled by the brain. As soon as the artificial respiration is switched off, the heart also stops swelling within the shortest time.

So long speech short sense: if the brain is dead, the human being is also medically dead, even if he is beaten and the heart is still beaten by this fact.

EinAlexander
5 months ago

In the case of brain-dead patients, the respirator keeps a circulation, but the person is still dead.

I told you.

Yuki123283
5 months ago

Organ donations are only possible if a patient is brain death. Despite brain death, the heartbeat, through immediate artificial respiration and medication, can be maintained over a longer period of time. As soon as the artificial Beatmumg stops, the heart stops. So an organ donation, from a person who dies out of the hospital, is usually not possible, as the edible body dies. In the case of brain-dead patients, the respirator keeps a circulation, but the person is still dead.

hachri
5 months ago

🤥

EinAlexander
5 months ago

Again someone who knows more like a doctor

No. I know exactly what every medical practitioner knows: organs are only removed, after the donor died.

hachri
5 months ago

As already written, medically speaking, none. The organs must be removed as long as the heart still strikes.

verreisterNutzer
5 months ago

Your mama has dealt with it and decided to accept it.

Find what you do. I also decided to donate the organs.

dancefloor55
5 months ago

Talks about it end in dispute that it is their thing.

Even if I’m for organ donation – but that’s really pure her thing. Her body, her decision

ch donate blood for food vouchers in the restaurant + cookbooks, umbrella etc.

therefore also not useless, but because you get something for it.

noblehostel
5 months ago

Even if I am a supporter of organ donations, I find:

You should respect your mother’s decision. It’s just her thing.

Ethem445
5 months ago

Is everyone his own decision… don’t interfere and don’t push anyone to anything just because you have these views… is absolutely disgusting such people. Instead, just accept others whose opinions and attitudes…

Allyluna
5 months ago
Reply to  Ethem445

Yeah, disgusting, saving people’s life if you can’t start anything with it…. SO NOT adequately discuss this issue (or in principle). 😘

turnmami
5 months ago
Reply to  Allyluna

So you think it’s okay to push people to things they don’t want? Anyone can and should decide for themselves whether he wants to be a donor or not

Ethem445
5 months ago
Reply to  Allyluna

Your thing, if you feel assaulted… not mine. don’t discuss either.. just wrote my point of view no more…

Ethem445
5 months ago

With all due respect… this person didn’t say… she finds it a pity that you don’t support this… and your words in honor but to clink here and by the theme doesn’t seem wise..

turnmami
5 months ago

Your choice of words makes it clear that it seems okay for you

Allyluna
5 months ago

🤣🤣🤣

Now, just give me a quick spell of the place you mean to be able to pull this knowledge. I’m really excited….

Allyluna
5 months ago

Oh, sweet. Have fun. 😘

Ethem445
5 months ago

Of course… Sarcasm is something brilliant not true.

Allyluna
5 months ago

Oh, thank you for your generosity.

But I do. You’re welcome, much and most importantly, quite successful. 😎

Ethem445
5 months ago

I and missing education… all right.. Think what you want…

Allyluna
5 months ago

Me?

My intention is not so obvious. Although I made them quite clear. I don’t feel attacked by ignorance, but missing education triggers my helper. So, just read my comments very slowly, she understands. Learn. Or leave it and stay on your stand. 😘

Likely, others take advantage of the opportunity, because this is a public forum where one can comment – even if one has already informed the opinion “separately” in one’s own answer (what you could have noticed with very little effort 🤭).

Ethem445
5 months ago

Obviously, you feel assaulted by my words… otherwise just wouldn’t comment. Tell your opinion separately here.

Allyluna
5 months ago

Reading… why do you think someone was insulting?

So obviously not “all clear.” 🤷

Ethem445
5 months ago

Didn’t offend anyone… but all right.

Allyluna
5 months ago

No. But this is the problem of many in today’s time.

Have a proverb for you, whose meaning you can learn and which I would like to put to your heart: The sound makes the music.

cafe61o
5 months ago

That’s her decision! You shouldn’t force her.

Jana174923
5 months ago

Everyone has to decide for yourself. You have to respect this.

Wolpertinger
5 months ago

Nix can you do there, it’s her decision to accept it

Wolpertinger
5 months ago
Reply to  maxundmogli

From the same. Reason how your mother has to accept your decision.

Fluphoernchen
5 months ago

It’s your mom’s decision.

bmke2012
5 months ago

Talks about it end in dispute that it is their thing.

… and so is it! So just leave her alone.

Neuling2024
5 months ago

“Do Mommy”?!

Gar nix…this is her decision alone!☝️

You can do something “for” Mama… pull out and let your parents finally live their own life!!!

DerRealist375
5 months ago

This is her right and you have to respect this.

ntechde
5 months ago

What do you think you’re putting your parents in their most private decisions?

I’m sure there’s such a type going out with me! Pretty sudden!

Nichtnoetig
5 months ago

It’s her decision I wouldn’t want to donate it too, so let her! Your body you can’t determine it you can do it but she doesn’t have to if she doesn’t still want her body

holgerholger
5 months ago

It’s none of your business, it’s your decision.

peterobm
5 months ago

She has an organ donation card – signed that she does not want to donate.

either you sign it or leave it, stay left to everyone. a decision of your mother. you’ve got to report.

Notorious666
5 months ago

Your mother can learn from you.

On the other hand, you have to learn that people have their own will, even if they may sometimes be illogical and irrational.

You stay on your course.

This is the way.

DickerOrk
5 months ago

You don’t have anything to do, no matter how you find it.

I will not donate my organs;)

turnmami
5 months ago

Why would you choose your mother?

It’s her body.

Conversely, you don’t want your mother to decide you’re not an organ donor…

Mogthar
5 months ago

Everyone’s free choice. Find it better if everyone would donate, but you can’t force anyone.

DickerOrk
5 months ago
Reply to  maxundmogli

“The dignity of man is inviolable”

Mogthar
5 months ago
Reply to  maxundmogli

I don’t think so! Everyone should decide freely. But what you could change on the system would be the opt out. Everyone is a donor if he does not sign that he does not want it, the system also has Austria. Currently, it is opt in, no one is donor except he signifies that he wants it.

DickerOrk
5 months ago

But revival is a completely different matter. This is about the maintenance of the individual’s life, according to which it can be assumed that corresponding measures correspond to the self-conservation drive.

DickerOrk
5 months ago

This right applies to all and not only to those you wish. Fucking in a state of law.

Mogthar
5 months ago

This is not allowed to run through an identity card, which would have to be deposited with health insurance companies etc. We also use Opt Out for revival measures via patient orders.

DickerOrk
5 months ago

That would be very controversial. Aside from “unfortunate” coincidences where no ID was found.

Mogthar
5 months ago

Also Opt out is right