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myotis
3 years ago

Where are the pictures? Currently and made yourself?

Overwintering bats please NOT disturb – all species are also strictly protected!

But back to your question:

  • At the top quite typical (!) a freely hanging horseshoe nose wrapped in the wings
  • The bat below has the typical habitat of the species of the genus Myotis

For the exact type determination, you need further data (size dimensions, exact location, claw features…) – but, as I said, do not disturb again!

In the case of the horseshoe nose, the small about 75, the large about 100mm long (foot to tip) – this cannot be seen at the photo…

In the case of the mouse ears, which also belong to the water bat, it also depends on the size – especially as regards the delimitation to the very similar pond bat (larger, somehow “strubberiger”, not in southern Germany)… The big feet fit well to your guess, but the carrying (so-called ear lid, i.e. the “things” in the ear) is not good to see in the picture = IMHO, however, it is short, which together with the rather shorter ears and the white belly would also fit the water bat..

Vllt. help you get the information under https://www.google.com/search?q=determination key+fledermaus+winter – especially the pdf-links at the beginning…

But – I’ll say it another three times – please don’t bother again (the lower one has the eyes open!), okay? Thanks, also in the name of Flatterer ;o)

TheoBN
3 years ago
Reply to  Kleosa

“Don’t be annoying!”

Nice dealing with someone who has made a lot of effort to answer your question in detail.

I’m sure you’ll find a lot of friends here with your kind.

myotis
3 years ago
Reply to  Kleosa

Oh, nice.

The distinguishing feature I wrote you in…

By the way: horses are particularly sensitive to disturbance…

myotis
3 years ago

and what prepares you for “In the case of the horseshoe nose, the small about 75, the large about 100mm long (foot to tip) – this cannot be seen at the photo…” Problems?

myotis
3 years ago

How please do you want someone to know about a picture without a scale?!

…and I’m annoying, remember? …

chog77
3 years ago

The horseshoe nose is to be excluded, because the horseshoe-shaped nose bead is missing.

chog77
3 years ago
Reply to  Kleosa

On the lower picture you see the nose.

myotis
3 years ago
Reply to  chog77

But the upper has the very typical “evolved” attitude of the horses!