Mittelmeer Pinie (Pinus Pinea)
Winterhart bis minus 12 Grad wenn verpflanzt und ein Meter hoch. Wächst bei uns in NRW perfekt, überall wo er eingepflanzt wurde.
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1 I assume that the Forestry Propagation Goods Act is contrary. The requirements regarding origin, quality etc are very strict. You can’t just plant in the forest what you want.
2 The climate is possibly too continental in the rest of Germany.
3 What is also important is that the trees planted in the forest “retire”. Due to rapid growth or value of the wood.
Forestry – economy, future security, sustainability, increasingly also oecological and recreational functions are in the profession of foresters ….
the acquiring gardener is more in plant cultivation …. Employees in horticulture and landscape construction and florists are more plant users ….
The leisure gardener enjoys the products and services of ALL the above professions and supports their success in many areas
Let me give you a book recommendation: “The Long Breath of Trees” by Peter Wohlleben. Also like “The Secret Life of Trees” from the same author. He wrote more books on the subject.
He is Förster and has a forest academy in Germany. Knows perfectly with forest and trees.
It explains why not every tree, even if it is suitable for the climate, is also suitable for any location.
Among other things, it is about mushrooms and millions of microorganisms in the soil. These are with the trees that normally grow on a stand in symbiosis. The ones give the other nourishes and toxins are removed.
The soils and in particular the complete microbiom are completely different in different forests with different trees.
If you bring foreign trees, then neither the trees with the orgenisms can start or vice versa. It could last centuries, or even longer until it works successfully.
If it were to be isolated, or only if people take care of it. Because illnesses etc. are much more likely. Because nothing can protect each other.
So it’s not that easy. If the man were gone, they would probably die and grow back where they originally came and here the native trees would settle.
Therefore, it is sure to want to plant a tree where he does not want to be.
The pine trees seem to hold -120 C, but only at short notice. Longer time below -50 C, and it freezes.
Also, their leaves can dry when the sun shines, and the plant cannot yield water from the ground.
There are also several local pine species. For example, Pinus Sylvestris, the Waldkiefer.
They are perfectly adapted to the climate here.
Only they are not as beautiful as the Pinus Pinea. And they’re holding up minus 15 degrees. And I speak not only of a plant but of 10 Mediterranean pine trees scattered around 10km.
There can already be some at the Lower Rhine or in the wine-growing climate. There are thousands of local forest pinien here.
the winters become more and more mild. Here in NRW it was short-term -2 degrees this year. And the pine comes from sunny countries, I don’t see a big difference now
Minus 12 degrees is not quite true. The problem of pine trees is longer permanent frozen and frozen root bales. This is usually her dead. In addition, they do not stop snow loads due to their growth form, they simply break apart with a lot of snow.
Maybe because of the climate. Would be an announcement for the Greens.
As if it wasn’t tested, tested and discussed long ago. This has nothing to do with parties. Germany has excellent forestry universities.
Goettingen, Freiburg and Muenchen
I didn’t want to question our forestry 😄
A statement for what exactly?
I believe you. I just wanted to respond to John’s “green bashing”.
Because there is no guarantee, even in NRW, that there is not much stricter frosts.
This is a question of the observation period in case of doubt.
40 years of winter in NRW is the observation period.
I think the German forest farmers and their associations are already able to assess the circumstances. Also in terms of sustainability and sustainability of planted trees.
You could ask, by the way, there’s a sound answer.
Thanks to this, I meant more in private gardens.
This has not yet advanced to the broad mass. There may also be reasons to plant these trees exactly NOT. There is a lot of background knowledge. In private gardens you still rely on “local woods” and this also makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, sure, but that’s how a tree-setting thing should be looked after a bit, otherwise it’ll stop. Vllt, however, also need special substrates. Earth. I don’t know.
Mediterranean pine trees were never affected. It remains a pine and they can fight well. And they won’t be bad when they’re longer. 😄
If they’re not accepted, I’m out of marketing stuff like that. And then someone finds out that they don’t fit into the structure and attract certain pests – Buchsbaumzünsler comes to my mind – or get too fast. Something is always.
A risk in how?
Isn’t that a risk? You have to do that slowly.
Yes, you could not secure a monopoly. There are nurseries in all Mediterranean countries which provide the coastal areas with plants. This could also be ordered by any German construction market there.
It wants to be financed. It’s a marketing thing.
With huge cardboard boxes in garden centers that have printed this photo on it. To get to know the tree by name. 😄
However, you must also be able to come to young plants and here it is also true – if unknown, then no demand. I don’t know how to bring such a “product” into the market….🤷
One problem is that he can be quite loaded with his screen. But if you cut it as a young tree, it’ll be quite narrow.
Because Germany is not in the Mediterranean
Palm trees or mammoth trees are planted here.
Mammut trees are perfectly suited to our climate. Palms aren’t.
Palms? Never seen outside
Everything is not true if it contradicts your representation.
Thank you for this information.
Discussion ended. You’re right. All the foresters in Germany are sooo stupid!
Of course, the pine trees located here are better adapted to our climate. That’s not the point. But if I hear something like winter drying out at Pinus Pinea, that’s just Mumpitz. And that would be particularly good for the half shadows in winter. That’s just not true. This is so dryness-resistant, heavy wet in winter for many weeks, that could be a problem more. But it’s not just rain weather. I have been working with this tree for 15 years and how it will be trimmed in Portugal and how its different appearances and colors come to stand. And as you put them here as a highly sensitive exot for private gardeners who put high demands on the PH value in the ground, that’s just not true. And there you can read and quote so many online garden guides written off by each other.
Why don’t you just give me some kind of arguments instead of just saying I’m wrong. What about the pine seed? Ups, the cones (and thus the seeds) are much smaller and less in Central Europe. What this may be…
Well, in Italy, the seeds of the pine trees do not suffice for reproduction, in Germany. This can be better for the Central European jaws here than the Southern European jaws (pinions). They are also better able to cope with the wet, but with less sunlight they grow fast, because the pine is only a shadow of what it is in Italy. It is probably because the Central European pine is better adapted to the climate in Central Europe than the sisters from the South.
Wrong.
Semi-shadow is already good, which protects against winter drying. If the days last 24 hours a day, not only the nights) -15°C, then probably also very windproof and quite old. It can be good. But it should be the absolute exception.
And why do the Pinus Pinea create in our area to minus 15 degrees over several nights? And are partially in the shadow.
No, it’s not.
It’s just untrue.
It’s great that pine -12°C can be used to grow “predominant” but they need higher annual average temperatures and more sunlight. A week -12°C, by the way, kills almost every pine.
https://www.lubera.com/en/gartenbuch/pinie-winterhart-p1539#Requirement-related-winterh-rte-bei-der-Pinie
In at least 50% of Germany it grows excellent.
The soil is not so great for pine trees in most parts of Germany. Mammut trees don’t care if the upper layers are wet or dry basic or acidic. Pine.
Isn’t that right?
Not even close.
Pine trees are also perfect in Germany.
This is part of a park, which may also be part of experimental plants, but it has its reason why local trees are preferred here.
I’m just talking about gardens anyway.
this time is over. More and more are experimented with dryness-resistant trees. And these come from now on to Germany.