Why does my Fi trip?

Hello everyone.

At home, I tapped a 40A residual current device (RCD) from the supply line. The RCD has two C16 circuit breakers for two outlets. The L3 outlet is simply screwed shut without any load. The two N terminals of the RCD are connected to the N terminal.
As soon as I plug a microwave into one socket and an oven into the other socket, the RCD immediately trips.

What could be the reason for this?

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Hamvernich
2 years ago

The outgoing circuits are also gr + bl together at the top of the N-rail, so the nix.

Is the main line 5 adrig?

What cross section?

The Fi is not complified after the photo?

At the bottom right of the automatic fuse is with K — identifier ,( sluggish) which is original and has been used for machines with difficulty.

He has to look here nix because he has a completely different triggering behavior.

Ploppy8888
2 years ago

That’s N and PE, you know, when you’re stuck, the FI is out. Blue and green yellow never together.

xdanix77
2 years ago

Each FI includes a separate clamping block with the neutral conductors of the secured circuits.

SuperKuhnibert4
2 years ago

The two N of the FI’s are at the N terminal.

What “both N” on what “N-terminal”? The fact that the neutral conductor cannot be clamped together with the neutral conductor behind the FI circuit breaker was hopefully observed…?

SuperKuhnibert4
2 years ago
Reply to  NunoChaves

It can’t work. Especially since you didn’t understand how a FI circuit breaker works at all.

Sorry, but again proof that you shouldn’t sit around on the electrical installation without any expertise.

ghost40
2 years ago

You don’t mind a stupid answer? Again, where are the two machines?

GFrageNFrage
2 years ago

You take the N that goes into the control cabinet and wires it to the entrance.

If he isn’t present, it’s a lot of fun to retrofit.

As an electronics engineer for operating technology, you should be aware that if you change the system, you need to update the complete system (feed + all from RCD)*, you should make a change. (i.e. it must comply with the current laws and standards)

Clamping the N, which comes out on the other side of the RCD, on other clamping blocks, otherwise the total current transformer emits an incorrect value and triggers it. –>see function RCD

*According without guarantee, I would check again at times. But even at the moment, unfortunately, have no current access to the complete standard system.

SuperKuhnibert4
2 years ago

Yeah, there’s an N-rail up there? And from the entrance you go to the FI, and with the exit N to an additional N-terminal. It’s easy.

SuperKuhnibert4
2 years ago

naja could not really help me

Of course you could help. It has been mentioned several times that the neutral conductor must be placed behind the FI protective switch on a separate neutral conductor terminal. Because of that:

https://www.lampen-ersatzteile.de/Neutralleiter-Klemme-Verteiler Klemme-blau-12-pin-fuer-Hutrail

And a little bit of self-thinking and you’re still allowed to know.

SuperKuhnibert4
2 years ago

So electronics engineer for operating technology…? However, in all cases one should know the mode of operation of a FI circuit breaker and the relationships of the circuit.

ghost40
2 years ago

I don’t see any machines left of the FI!
And if there’s no N going through the FI, it doesn’t work either. Again typical layman base.

SuperKuhnibert4
2 years ago

As I said: On the output side, the neutral conductor must have its own neutral conductor terminal. But let someone install it from the subject.

SuperKuhnibert4
2 years ago

So I only see that three conductors are connected on the input side. I don’t see a neutral conductor and there’s nothing on the output side.

SuperKuhnibert4
2 years ago

No, otherwise you’d see the picture.

SuperKuhnibert4
2 years ago

Edit question > Add question > Add picture.

SuperKuhnibert4
2 years ago

Should be possible if you process or supplement the question.