I'm just curious as to why this is happening.
In my experience, there are already quite a few women in areas that deal with this. Hotlines, support, or something like that.
But actually, as a programmer, I've honestly never seen a woman.
Is this industry simply so uninteresting for women? Or what is the reason for this?
Thanks for your answers.
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In fact, an exciting development, considering that programming was once a pure female job. The first moon landing could not have taken place without the programmers…
At some point, it tilted and women were no longer desired, it became a men’s job in many countries, which gradually breaks up again. Now does not apply directly to programming, but I know that some women consciously decide against IT, because things like readiness, etc. are not compatible with their child’s desire, because it is still usually the women who take care. To this end, the only woman in a team can be exhausting, I myself often had enough (capital market area), not everyone wants this and pulls it through. Where the subject of working hours can already be a topic if you are dependent on punctual evenings, whether you have a close charge or just was in the middle of the code.
I think that in parts it begins a lot earlier that girls who are interested in computers, programming etc. are smiled or as being insulted as a man and then rather stop again, while a boy is also referred to as a nerd, but is rather accentuated and also more encouraged by the environment. Also, many parents would rather accept that the son sits in front of the PC forever than the daughter. Many daughters are also expected to help more in the household than by the sons, who is constantly interrupted will not dare to be able to practice x hours in the piece. it is also partly associated with education and socialization.
In my environment, I only know those who thought they had no perspective for them and stopped early again or who have followed it and are extremely good. But little midfield, which accounts for the majority of employees.
I myself wanted to learn a not quite simple programming language for work, at least a few basics to be able to better understand some things that IT does in a project. When I asked for training, the question of who is now the participant, all (!) companies came from me, for example, as a secretary and would like to register others. When I said no, the question is my name, because I would like to do this, I was always silent and then the question whether I was sure the basic course was very complex. This is the reality if you want to learn to program as a woman.
Programming =|= software development
Probably come together a lot of themes. On the one hand, I think it’s the entrance for many, for example, the zoking. This is where the longest time has been addressed to boys.
Of course, there were always neutral things, but so typical guys like football. Cars, competition and co. were often a theme in the big titles.
It is also certainly the presentation in the media. There it is usually then always the cool type in hoodie before 20 monitors etc.
To this end, the general education and the image that is being conveyed. Many girls think they have nix to do with people and this picture drawn in the film corresponds to reality.
In the end, however, there are many agreements, telephone calls, mails, meetings and co. And there are lights in the office as well as normal attracted people.
I also think that such prejudices, that women are not so strong in terms of logic, etc., are often accepted and that many girls talk about themselves and then go more into the professions that society is experiencing, for example, what social things.
And yes, if you have such a disequilibrium first, then surely some of them feel terrified. For example, I had no single girl in the training/vocational school, even with us in the company there is not a woman and also with the zig customers I have worked with in the last few years, there were only very, very few women, if then usually rather in the direction of project management, etc., and a little away from the professional.
The logic is not so many women. Those who do it are really good, my experience. Even the classic hours of sitting in front of the PC and a whole weekend with a buddy I have never heard of a woman.
Then it would certainly be useful to look into several (larger) companies in this area and with open eyes to discuss not only on the basis of anecdotal evidence.
There are only 28% women worldwide.
in Germany only 17%.
Here you go. It took 2 seconds of research.
you could have done
Besides, I know these numbers myself. Unlike you even from practical experience. So you absolutely don’t need to teach me how it looks in the industry…
And what do you want to tell me? Except that you’re talking to yourself again, because 17-28% are clearly more than (as observed by you) absolutely no one.
Jo, thank you. In this sense: Cheers!
I am.
Would give you a beer now. But since we’re not in the bar…
Well, imagine I don’t give you one. Don’t have any stress with people looking for a bit of terz^
Oh, you’re a really tough joker…
Don’t worry. I don’t jump in there;-) I’ll wait up here okay?
That’s right. Not that I’m coming to you someday.
Just read right.
It’s not that hard.
And now let it be good. Keep the hole deeper and deeper.
This is then your lack of understanding of your or my contributions and therefore not my problem.
not even in the approach exact 😉
No, I’m just gonna give you exactly what you’re writing here.
It only shows me that you’ve always interpreted more than I wrote.
Apart from that, the a) is irrelevant and shows b) actually only that, apart from any “multiples” that are supposed to be on your side, you do not think of anything more meaningful …
So, now you know exactly what all the others think and mean. Are you a real all-round identifier 😉
And you’re the only user who hanged on it 😉
The others didn’t have the problem.
It is not just your problem or my problem, as this is a public medium.
I didn’t.
You just don’t read right and interpret more than I actually wrote.
That’s not my problem.
Wrong. The discussion is necessary because you wrote obvious nonsense.
I don’t.
I said I don’t know a single woman in this area.
If you had read correctly and not interpret and misunderstand what I wrote. No discussion required
So… who had once again set up the wild thesis that there are 0 women?
someone of the 3 comments just needs to talk wildly.
But if you’re fun.
…
I worked in development during my studies as a student of work and programmed a lot. Somehow… yes, sometimes it’s fun but really really only if I can do my own thing, so I have no intention and I like it.
So lasting, every day, easy to dry .
So the customer contact, advice, organization, …
Thank you.
Yeah, that seems to be the reason for many women.
The Nerds like me are not too dry We love to infect and fix the problems.
So I’m just kidding. And you feel like God when you have removed a bigger problem with a fingertips 😉
Yeah, well, if that’s all worked, it’s a cool feeling, but the way to it is just stressing, no fingertips :p
If then frontend there I would still be there, so where does the button come, how best to build the menu, which color, etc generally the design 😀 there I can deal with hours
My experience:
Notification
Remember because it is more it and then has more to think about, math, English and of course the programming view.
So roughly just to “dry”?
A lot of men just find it horny. Find the head crawling and solutions etc.
So, I’m always really enjoying this job.
Yes grossly said 👍
Apparently the girls were not interested. There are many areas that are occupied by only one sex.
No question. Sure there is.
It would also be an area where women would be well received. But seemingly it will be as good as never tried
Like they’re avoiding it.
This can be such a wonderful job.
If you want to do this, you can do it. Of course you have to apply. Generally, I also fixed that it doesn’t hurt if other sex is mixed.
My teacher in programming would have just explained that.
He said, “You have something to think like a program, or you don’t have it.”
He was the firm conviction that it cannot be taught to a person if he does not have that certain.
Today I understand what he meant.
I’m working on a “own” project. And usually when an error is reported in this program, I know almost in my head where and at which point in the code it’s banging.
And even though there are thousands of lines on code.
I guess he meant that. If your brain goes through the code before you actually run the program to track the error. Then you just won half.
I had a female colleague in the vocational school (so singular is really only a 😅) and that has always strictly adhered to everything the teacher (or in the company her instructor) has said. This may also be a bit of a problem, because in development a bit of creativity is also required and not always the one solution there are many different.
She always wanted to make it right (for the best note and so… that she did not program it in all subjects) but this is also an essential restriction. For example, we had the task of building the game Minesweeper in a clause.
She was so attached to the task that you did not notice the simple pattern in it (so set all fields to 0 and count all surrounding fields to one for each bomb). She also somehow got the job done, but the solution was so complicated that I had to think about it for a while.
Maybe there are missing any parts in the brain that allow this other to think 😅
Yes, that’s why I ask.
I don’t think the female society can hurt. Rather in the opposite.
Locks the whole on etc.