Why are there still supermarkets in 2018 that do NOT sell eggs from male chicks that have NOT been killed?

More specifically, where the male chicks aren't shredded or gassed because they don't lay eggs. Is animal welfare unimportant to consumers? There are suppliers where NO chicks are killed. To finance the rearing/fattening of these chicks, the egg from the same supplier costs only 2-4 cents more.

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Spielwiesen
6 years ago

Technically difficult to use male chicks for egg laying!

However, organic farms have now started an initiative in which so-called ‘brother chickens’ are being drawn up. This makes it the regional organic chicken farm, from which I relate my things, and offers eggs of the ‘sister chickens’, which, of course, cost more. There are also packed chicken parts of brother chickens.

One has to decide whether it is worth this political price.

Of course, the chickens are also marketed. I like this initiative, for which a flyer was also published. But I don’t care about the more expensive eggs.

Initiatives are known as ‘two-use chickens’. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSA3Fm0lo7k

Supermarkets that opt for such a marketing experiment would have to have a good concept – apart from appealing to the pity or bad conscience of the buyers –

techniker68
6 years ago

Males are bad. They don’t lay eggs.

But otherwise… The males are just shredded. Immediately killed as a little born.

They’re useless and don’t lay eggs.

We talk about the females who were still allowed to survive…. A big meadow. All the few weeks the stable is moved on. Chickens don’t like to leave their nest. Fear of robbers.

Do not pretend. such animals are always kept to generate profit.

I’m going past a pasture every day. 8 Hens and a rooster that looks after them. Like in a harem. He’s doing it. I haven’t seen such peaceful chickens for a long time.

Mario

techniker68
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

I made it. I just kicked an avalanche. Somewhere I can

You just got the nerve. I’ve never seen so many answers before.

Nobody cares about chickens except my cat. She’s bringing a little past… Not funny. I know.

She just sits like a must-dog next to me. All four paws together. There is no better begging.

She knows exactly how to get me.

No Miau or anything… Just look very innocent.

If one can do that then she can.

Mario

DocSciences
6 years ago

On the one hand, the vegan fanatics laugh so strongly that the world is shaking when animals are eaten. Because they need an infinite amount of food that people have to eat…

On the other hand, they now insist that male kisses, which no one wants, are cared for.

Abstruse people.

Propaganda polemics like “gassing” is not appropriate if you want to talk about the SACHE.

DocSciences
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

Again totally underqualified…

With the agitation word “gasping” the Nazi period is deliberately exploited and the horror of the Germans is abused before the Jewish gasification.

There are already vegantrommlers from German courts Convictedbecause they have mixed KZ, Jewish thematics, etc. with today’s animal production. For example, if they were crowded by “Tierholocaust”.

You can also talk without agitation by talking about CO2 anaesthesia etc.

A walking gondola is in no way suitable as a barbecue chicken for the sales trailer. Therefore, breeding remains an economic and moral cramp.

DocSciences
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

Hetzerfilme can be ordered from 400 Euro. Then this is artificially arranged by ruthless filmmen.

https://www.achgut.com/artikel/tierquaelerei\_auf\_bestellung

DocSciences
6 years ago

CO2 is a very human death. The brain’s gone very quickly. It’s like an anesthesia you don’t wake up.

To raise animals subsidized, which basically nobody wants, will never make sense. It is a great waste of food, which is hysterically denounced by the vegans. And unnecessarily manure, mist that burdens the fertilizer and nutrient balances is also produced.

DocSciences
6 years ago

It remains that these viechers are not to be marketed as barbecue chickens. If enough “Quersubvention” takes place over more expensive eggs, the cocks are already put in the sausage. In principle, cross-subsidisation is not an economic behaviour. Uneconomic behaviour can only be sustained for a few years after all experience.

What is better by this when a laying cock dies after a three-quarter year compared to it when it dams away as cows under CO2 – NOTS.

Bitterkraut
6 years ago

Because male chicks don’t lay eggs. That’s why you can’t offer.

Fun aside, there are simply not enough businesses that pull up the cocks. In order for this to be economically viable, sufficient animals of suitable breeds must first be reared and the chickens must be expensive. Otherwise, their meat cannot be sold without loss, because this is the case at the moment. Meat is simply too cheap, even chickens are too cheap.

The farms that raise chickens do so up to now from idealism, because it is not only profitable, but sometimes even a loss business.

If the consumer is willing to pay more, more businesses can also change.

Sabrina11
6 years ago

I’ve seen eggs from such an initiative at REWE.

Runs under the name “Spitz & Bub”. In addition, coppering of the beak is dispensed with here. Therefore, one can also assume that the animals are not as tight as for the 10 cent eggs.

A small impulse for thought of a hobby chicken holder:

Many consumers complain about killing the male chicks, but hardly one would get a cock to the posture. Even the hobby holder in the country has more and more rare a cock. Some even buy targeted sorting chicks for raising in their own garden to later have eggs of “happy chickens”. Again, the cocks remain on the track, but no one sees that.

Why should industry be private people or Consumers take seriously if even the people who keep chickens as pets do not want cocks? (Own experience when I wanted to sell my own drawn chicks. Some people even responded in an outrageous manner that there could be cocks.)

True to the motto, just don’t kill as a fluffy, sweet chick, but what you end up doing with the cocks isn’t my problem? It’s just sad and double-moral of the finest.

Every hen has a brother cock. So if you see a harmonic group of 10 hens with a cock, on average 9 cocks had to die for this picture. There’s no room for the cocks.

Whether the chick is killed or the grown-up cock lands in the slaughterhouse after the mast is not a big difference. The cock does not always have a great life in the mast.

However, the nature of the killing should correspond to the animal welfare law. So definitely not shy! The adult chickens are also “poored” with gas in some gorges. So just like the male chicks “gassed”. Does it make a difference when the cock gets “gassed”? Or is it only important for the conscience that the cock is no longer sweet and fluffy?

The day-old chicks don’t land in the garbage. They are sold deep-frozen kilos as animal feed. Not nice, but there are enough people who need the chicks for their reptiles etc. The chicks are already there. Feed mice and rats are specially bred and killed. What’s worse? Everyone can decide for themselves…

If industry would do without shreddering, this would be a step in the right direction.

ShakingAnita
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

They are first raised and only slaughtered as adults cocks through a power bath and then used as chickens, which is then available to buy.

Sabrina11
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

There are various anesthetic methods. Always coming to the slaughterhouse. As long as the animal is stunned when the throat is cut open, it corresponds to the animal welfare law. In the end, all the chickens are bleeding. The consumer doesn’t want blood at his food.

Whether fewer animals have to die by the Brotherhood Initiative can really be denied. Do you have any idea how much too much chicken meat produced is shipped deep-frozen to Africa, where it destroys the local markets with dumping prices from European profits? When the supply on site is only destroyed, people are dependent on the import meat and must accept price increases.

To believe that this is produced less in this way, unfortunately does not correspond to reality.

In addition, you also need consumers who buy the meat of these cocks. In addition, the rumor / prejudice persists persistently, mature cocks would taste “comic” or would be inedible. The cocks from such initiatives must be kept to maturity, otherwise there is less meat. It is therefore advantageous here if the consumer is a city man. In rural areas it is already widespread and on some farms it was common that the spent gockel landed rather in the garbage (or dog food) than in the pot. In my opinion, exaggerated. Tastes different, but not bad.

Even tried and compared to a 42-day intensive mastic? It tastes different. That must taste the consumer first. The meat is just different. Less “small” where you get used to your own 3 year-old outdoor chickens, every industrial meat tastes nothing and is muddy.

The fat of outdoor chickens is rather yellow and the meat is darker and firmer. Someone who only knows the cheap meat of 18-month-old thirsty laying hens or quick-mouth chicks (which have never seen the sun), can even react with ecles to the meat of a naturally held chicken.

Unfortunately, even experienced that the good soup chicken has landed in the garbage, as some people nowadays do not know how a normal chicken actually looks and tastes. All that deviates from the familiar, insecures the consumer. The industry also knows that and uses it in its favor.

If you really want to change things, you should keep yourself old chicken breeds and produce eggs and meat in a self-catering style. If that were done by anyone who has a sufficiently large plot, you could change a lot of the current situation of the chickens. But for that, man is too lazy. Why to work yourself when the meat is packed in the store? It is much easier to criticize others than to make it better for yourself.

For me, such brotherhood initiatives are only attempts by industry to appease consumers and to calm their conscience.

By the way the “Sandy” shawl from the linked video of @Spielwiese comes from the same “manufacturer” as well as the 0815 high-performance lenae in brown and white. Since it is a hybrid hen, the farmer continues to depend on big hatchers like Lohmann. The money continues to flow to the same company.

According to Demeter, the breeding of new chickens for use in pigs was started in 2015. That’s three years now. Calls 3 generations breeding selection. The established large poultry farms have been working on their “products” since the 1950s.

So beautiful and idyllic the photos on the Demeter website are, they do not have the right animals, nor produce them enough to compete with conventional companies. But it is enough to calm down the bad conscience of some insecure consumers.

A properly kept chicken is expensive. Slow growth, more space and access to the meadow cost. How many consumers are willing to spend 30 € per kilo of meat if the meat from the fattening chick costs only 3 € per kilo?

The supermarket sells what the consumer wants to buy.

Make yourself at the supermarket next to the eggs and ask the people why they now buy the cheap eggs for 1 € from the ground and not the organic eggs, then you know why it is offered so little. For one of the 6 organic eggs buy, 10 people buy the cheap eggs.

juergen63225
5 years ago
Reply to  Sabrina11

Because in the headlines I have been on the post .. thanks … yes, what a lying theatre .. what does it matter if the now animal-protection are killed with gas as chicks and processed to feed for the people’s pets or are processed to ChickenMcNuggets a few miser months later???

Sabrina11
5 years ago
Reply to  juergen63225

If the meat would at least replace the meat of the chickens. Only soup is usually made from the hens. It must always be breast meat for almost all products. But the brother cock of a Legehybride has hardly anything about that. In summary, this means that the cock needs longer in the rearing, takes up area, consumes more food, produces more crap, has less meat and damages the climate per kilo of meat even more than the mast chick. It’s quite meaningless.

Sabrina11
5 years ago

These cocks are not used as chickens. The popular breast meat is just too small. Too little. The consumer does not like that. Such cocks are usually marketed directly and land in the soup.

Thomas021
6 years ago

Such madness with the shreddering of chicks could quickly be terminated if people no longer buy eggs and would look through the lies, supported by fake studies, about eggs from the billion-heavy egg industry and bring people the truth about the extreme health damage of eggs:

People are constantly talking about what is contained in eggs for many good substances. In an egg, almost all vitamins, etc. are included, because life is created out there. That’s why the egg contains everything it needs to contain so that life can arise out. That’s why an egg has this nutrient density. Every person gets his whole life “worn”, an egg is healthy and what it would have for great vitamins and nutrients. But, has anyone noticed this whole time? It has never been spoken about the negative side of the egg. You ask a person whether smoking is unhealthy. He’ll answer it with yes. He says “yes” because he knows what is contained in a cigarette for negative substances that cause health damage in the body. But if you ask a person whether an egg is unhealthy, he will most likely say no and ask why it should be unhealthy. He says this because he does not know what is contained in an egg and how these substances act in the human body. If you were to turn the time back and delete all the studies on cigarettes, then hardly any smoking would be regarded as unhealthy, as it was actually earlier and people did not think about the health damage of smoking. If one were to ask a person whether smoking is unhealthy, then he would probably answer: “No, why?” Because he didn’t know anything about the health damage of smoking. In the same way, most people do not know why an egg is unhealthy and actually today are compared by scientists who have examined it and know that eggs are literally smoking with the health damage of cigarettes, but in KNOWLEDGE, eggs are even much more harmful because they contain e.g. the greatest amount of cholesterol of all animal products and animal cholesterol is today the No. 1 killer for humans. So today most people do not know why eggs are unhealthy, because they have never dealt with it before and because they have been victimized by the propaganda of the egg industry and have been misleaded by magazine articles or by opinions of people who have no idea and who told that eggs are so healthy because they contain so many nutrients. Because people don’t know the negative side, they fall into something like that.

Suppose it would find a fruit that grows in a stone and this would have all the vitamins and minerals that man needs. But – it would also have plutonium in itself, which would make people seriously ill with a hundred percent probability and he would get cancer, for example. Would this fruit be good or bad now?

Once you know the negative side, you are no longer interested in the positive side. You don’t want to ruin your health. In an egg the negative side is so huge(!) that it doesn’t matter what it has for a nutrient density and how many great vitamins are included in it! It doesn’t matter if you know the negative side!

The main reason why eggs are so bad is what is the biggest source of cholesterol? The egg! There is nothing that gives as much cholesterol as the egg. Meat-eating animals can leave cholesterol unchanged. This cannot be done by man as a 100% pure plant edible, so that the food of animal cholesterol, which is contained in ALL animal products, has fatal consequences for man and the arteriosclerosis causes all the heart and circulation diseases that follow, heart attack, stroke, which are the greatest causes of death of man.

There are 2 fake studies showing that when you eat eggs, the cholesterol level does not rise. The first study was conducted with just 8 people and in the 2. The participants had a high cholesterol output value. There are simply taken sick people who were already at the cholesterol limit and where, of course, further cholesterol intake does not allow the cholesterol level to rise further. That’s the same as the people who say “cocococonic oil is healthy” because a study shows that. But once you read this study, it says that coconut oil does not increase the cholesterol level in contrast to the comparison group with butter. Come on out!

Example of study fraud:

To fool people about eggs, e.g. a study in the following way: Before the study begins to recur, the study participants already eat 2 eggs per day. Their cholesterol levels are therefore already at the maximum. An egg has about 250 mg of cholesterol and 2 eggs with 500 mg. From a cholesterol value of 400 mg/dl, there will be no longer much further increase in the body because the maximum cholesterol value is then reached. Even if such a person would eat 10 or 20 eggs, his cholesterol would only increase a very little and completely irrelevant. In the case of these persons who are examined in these studies, the cholesterol value is already at the maximum. Thus, these fake studies indicate that the test subjects ate 2 eggs before the study and now in the study the amount is increased to 4 eggs a day in the first week and then it is found that the cholesterol value does not increase. In the 2nd week, 6 eggs are increased and no cholesterol increase is detected again. And then it is said that eggs do not increase the cholesterol level. It’s so simple. The cholesterol level is already saturated in the maximum range and so you can show with such studies whether 2 eggs, 4 eggs, 6 eggs or 20 eggs: there is no further increase in the cholesterol value. With such studies, people have been misled. The study’s statement is true, nothing has been done about it, it has only been concealed that from a maximum of 400 mg/dl nothing will do with another increase. And so, the professors and doctors stand there and talk about eggs not increasing the cholesterol level.

The egg industry was sued in America because it had said that eggs would not increase the cholesterol level (see video on YouTube “Eggs and Cholesterol: Patently False and Misleading Claims”). She was then sued by a very large organization. This organization won because it is clearly proven that eggs increase the cholesterol level. Every person knows that or should everyone know. Apart from the people who have read and give the belief that they can continue to eat their eggs for good conscience, because they apparently cannot live without eggs. The egg industry had to take this statement back. By this lawsuit, the egg industry then lost. The sale of eggs decreased. Of course they didn’t want to sit on them. The egg industry is billions heavy, it has many possibilities for manipulation. They then drove egg advertisements in magazines, where such statements were like: “The sexy egg” and where then there was how healthy eggs were and how much nutrients and vitamins they had. The egg industry has put millions of dollars in such advertising campaigns and, for example, in TV shows egg advertising. Or they went to doctors with a film team and offered them $1500 if they would say something good about the egg in front of the camera. Such medical statements were then also printed in journals and so people were tried to brainwash. For studies, $500,000 has been paid to scientists and doctors so that these studies should show the benefits for the eggs. In this way, it was ensured that egg consumption rose again.

The protein of the egg has much too much in very specific amino acids, therefore eggs are also extremely acidicly metabolized and superacidize the body extremely. The body should never overacidify, it should always be kept basic, which is only created with vegetable food. All animal products overacidify the body. The body then has to neutralize these acids and can only do this via the bone path by releasing calcium from the bones, so that the acids can then be neutralized, which can naturally cause osteoporosis with prolonged overacidification. Just like the protein from an egg: it decays to ammonia and the body is extremely difficult to get rid of protein, which it does not need. Humans need very little protein herbal protein. Animal protein should get NIEMALS to the human body, it is dangerous to fire and can trigger, among other things, the rarely occurring autoimmune diseases. Protein thus leads to ammonia formation, but also to oxidative stress, and also to other processes which are harmful to health, such as the formation of certain amines, such as trimethylamine, whereby, inter alia, cancer-promoting processes occur. Ammonia is then converted to uric acid, whereby the uric acid level rises, which in turn is also bad for the joints and is anti-inflammatory. This alone with egg protein. And this applies to JEDES(!) Egg, no matter how “bio” or how free-running the hens were, because this is primarily about the ingredients naturally contained in the egg!

Bitterkraut
6 years ago
Reply to  Thomas021

No man will read that. Make your propaganda somewhere else.

snowshoe
6 years ago
Reply to  Thomas021

The human being as a 100% pure plant eater cannot…….

A hysterical vegan at the start again!

TanjaHier
6 years ago
Reply to  Thomas021

Terrible propaganda madness. Totally unscientific.

Don’t want to go in detail on the Schmonz. Just in brief:

Stiftung Warentest speaks in her new edition OKTOBER 2018 (Thema Nutrition Myths) the egg completely free from health damage.

Naginata
6 years ago
Reply to  Thomas021

Beautiful text, if you understand the content, you would realize that is complete mumpitz.

Animal protein should get NIEMALS into the human body, it is risky to fire and can trigger, among other things, the rare autoimmune diseases.

Where did you get that, Youtube?

The protein of the egg has much too much in certain amino acids

and what?

Therefore, eggs are also extremely acidic and overacidify the body extremely

That’s bullshit.

Just like the protein from an egg: it decays to ammonia and the body is extremely difficult to get rid of protein, which it does not need. Humans need very little protein
herbal protein.

It doesn’t break! Ammonia is a degradation product of essential amino acids!

The egg! There is nothing that delivers as much cholesterol as the egg. Meat-eating animals can leave cholesterol unaltered…….. has fatal consequences for man and causes arteriosclerosis…usw.

  • 80 – 85% of cholesterol produces our body itself.
  • Our brain consists of 25% cholesterol
  • Cholesterol is among others a body of its own antioxidant
  • a value of 260 – 360 mg/dl is to be considered normal, even a temporary increase of up to 400 mg/dl is not to be considered critical.

Cholesterol is a precursor for the formation of vitamin D3 in the skin, of bile acids and steroid hormones in the liver and similar to the fatty acids an essential component of the cell membranes. Cholesterol is formed to about 2/3 in almost all cells and to approx. 1/3 with food.

Thomas021
6 years ago
Reply to  Naginata

That’s why you have to take 100% cholesterol out of your diet! How to take it out? By feeding people with a vegan diet. For the human being is a 100% pure planter (see: https://imgur.com/WtdRMNv ) Only herbivores, so pure plant eaters can get arteriosclerosis(!), because, in contrast to carnivorous animals, they can no longer excrete cholesterol, which then has quite fatal consequences. And that is exactly what happens in humans. So is man a pure plant or not?! No.1 killers in the world are heart and circulatory diseases caused by cholesterol! Cholesterol is also responsible for cancer and also for Alzheimer’s, which has been proven by numerous studies. Cholesterol is such a massive “problem child”. If you understand that with the cholesterol, you’ll get out of your way all civilization diseases.

This current misguided teaching that externally supplied cholesterol is not harmful has started with the fact that the egg heel has decreased more and more because people have understood the correlations about the harmfulness of eggs. And, on the other hand, one had to do something as a billion-heavy industry. And you did something by e.g. certain studies commissioned, but if one examines them accurately, they are easy to see through fake studies.

Cholesterol is also degraded by bile acid. 90% of these are resorbed, i.e. resumed and reused. Cholesterol-lowering drugs bind the gallic acid and thus also disappears the cholesterol and cholesterol levels.

The higher the BMI (body mass index) the higher the cholesterol in the blood. This fact should make you realize that cholesterol is bad. The thicker you are, the higher cholesterol levels you have.

The German average of the cholesterol level is 236 mg/dl. A good value is below 150 mg/dl. In China, the average value is 94 mg/dl. But since the American Diet is now getting more and more, it naturally increases.

Lower cholesterol levels are accompanied by a higher probability of heart, cancer, gallstones and arteriosclerosis. The plaques in arteries consist of cholesterol. Studies have been made with rabbits, where a group fed normal and another group were given milk and eggs. All animals developed arteriosclerosis. But as the rabbits are too great a difference to man, it is repeated with monkeys and pigs and has again experienced exactly the same. Always the same effect: As soon as cholesterol went up there was arteriosclerosis in the animals. Drugs for cholesterol are effective, but increase the likelihood of other types of death. The whole types of death caused by cholesterol are suppressed, other types of death, such as cancer, which may have other factors, are influenced by the cholesterol-lowering tablets and so keeps the balance and you no longer live when you take cholesterol counters because the probability increases that you die of something else. Cholesteric innkeepers are strong drugs and they are of course always bad.

It has been found in people with a genetic effect, which always have a very low cholesterol level, that these have 23% less heart attacks.

There was a big study, the Framingham study, which was the largest study ever made regarding cholesterol (she started in 1948 and ran over a period of 30 years). It was found that men had a four times higher risk for heart attack with the highest cholesterol levels in mid-30. 4 times higher means 400% increase!

Cholesteric counters are the most effective drug in the pharmaceutical industry. It thus makes $27 billion per year with an increase of 11% per year. That is why people simply eat everything without care and tell them that cholesterol is not a problem. Then you go to the doctor and o miracle, the cholesterol is much too high, but there is remedy. So you can prescribe the “nothed” “injurious” cholesterol counters, and everything is in good order, right?

Thomas021
6 years ago
Reply to  Naginata

The topic of cholesterol is now clearly correct:

Cholesterol was previously generally considered bad also by doctors. Then researchers found that cholesterol is not so bad and that was then called the cholesterol lust, because it was then considered that the concept of cholesterol was wrong. For this reason, this article is now here to show clearly that the cholesterol lie is a lie, because cholesterol was and is always bad and above all important to understand that absolutely NO cholesterol can be fed from the outside, which is exclusively present in animal products. So here now explains in detail why cholesterol is bad and always was bad and why this has arisen so that people now think that cholesterol is good. It should also be made clear that the billions of meat, milk and egg industries are steering everything.

Cholesterol itself is not a fat, but a steroid and it forms part of the precursor of certain hormones. When you enter the sun, vitamin D is formed by cholesterol. You need cholesterol in the blood, otherwise no vitamin D can be formed. Cholesterol is also responsible for the formation of testosterone and cortisol. Then cholesterol is important for the stability of a membrane, i.e. the outer layer of cells, so that these are stable and substances can enter and exit from a cell. It is very important to understand: The body itself produces its cholesterol in the optimal ratio in the liver, which we need. That is why we must not go in there and take cholesterol over the diet.

The total cholesterol should be officially below 200 mg/dl, but actually below 150 mg/dl. The LDL should be below 70 mg/dl. In the case of these perfect cholesterol values it was found in investigations that no arteriosclerosis and also no cardiac and circulatory diseases are formed. It is very important to understand that these actually perfect cholesterol levels can only be achieved by vegans. If you eat animal products, even if you eat a few animal products and if you are a vegetarian, you cannot have a total cholesterol below 150 mg/dl and no LDL below 70 mg/dl if you eat cholesterol, even if it is little.

The official cholesterol values are information that can be obtained when eating animal products. They don’t tell people, the perfect cholesterol level is below 150 mg/dl, because they should be told that they don’t eat any more animal products. This will never allow the billions of meat, milk, and egg industries to be clarified with all the organisations behind it. Thus, in reality, the official feasible cholesterol values are already harmful to health, because then you get arteriosclerosis, heart attacks, strokes, etc., which is quite logical. Because how much cholesterol can you feed from outside? NULL!!! Absolutely NULL!!!! The body produces, as I said, even its cholesterol in perfect amount as it needs. If you have understood that, you have already understood a great deal and will never fall into such a nonsense that animal cholesterol fed from outside is no longer harmful.

The very first studies on cholesterol clearly showed the negative effects on the heart and whole vessels. Then the file was closed. The parade example is also tobacco smoking. Smoking is unhealthy, causing lung cancer and we all know this. The studies were made and then these were completed. Because there is nothing more to shake or doubt. The same thing was done with cholesterol. And then that rested over a long period, maybe 20 years.

Cholesterol is the only(!!!) Risk factor for heart diseaseAs with the 39. Conference in Williamsburg on cardiovascular diseases.

juergen63225
5 years ago
Reply to  Thomas021

Can’t be read at the end… but in fact it’s completely wrong that foods containing a lot of colesterine have a direct effect on the colesterine content in the consumer’s blood.

Naginata
6 years ago

The argument sounds convincing. The conclusion may be valid, but is not necessarily correct

Thomas021
6 years ago

Now the sugar is at once. Only sugar not(!!!) is the EQUIPMENT for type 2 diabetes, but the ISOLIERTEN fats and oils which are partially insulated in large quantities in all animal products and then ALL(!!!) Oil-ISOLATE, also olive oil, is no matter what: oil-ISOLATE, no matter how “healthy” is supposed to be a linseed oil or sesame oil or coconut oil or olive oil, are risky and are also at the 1st place of the cancer promoter! The supposedly so healthy substances make only 0.01%(!) YEDEN Oil out! The rest is isolated oil, what does not exist in nature and only damage in the body! Since the 0.01% healthy substances are of great interest if oil-ISOLATE are soon 100% harmful to health. If you are interested in the topic more precisely, there are on the Internet for example: this PDF: https://www.gandhi-order.de/OEL_IST_GIFT!!!.pdf

From page 22, you will also find exactly how type 2 diabetes is triggered by oil-ISOLATE. And even if one has realized how easy it can be healed again, so how now thousands of diabetes type 2 patients were already experienced!!! Who heals is right, don’t you think?

Diabetes type 1 is triggered by animal proteins. In the meantime, 17 proteins have been found which are very, very similar to the human protein, e.g. the alpha S1 form of animal milk. When this gets into the bloodstream, it can trigger these dangerous autoimmune diseases such as diabetes type 1, Parkinson, Hashimoto etc. If you are interested in how this is done, there is also an interesting PDF about it: https://www.gandhi-order.de/Der_WAHRE_Grund_fuer_Autoimmun Diseases.pdf

Naginata
6 years ago

How strange, however, there is also NOT a study that shows any harmful effects of plant food for humans.

Why also, planting diet is a direct element of our diet and must therefore not be lacking in a full nutrition.

although it actually clearly shows how harmful animal cholesterol is. The clearly clearly proven health harm of animal products, as has now been shown in more than 100,000 studies,

And right here is the transition from science to ideology. There are no studies that prove the evidence, not one. All this is just raisins pickerrei. I have 5 years Looking for something like this and repeatedly came to the conclusion that reality now looks different. We are looking for causalities and, at the end, we find out if we allow the thought to take into account 1,000 factors before we can say a 90%. The human being has always been an all-consuming person in historical terms. The difference is only that, the meat and fish quality was ideal, ideal FS, AS, vitamin constellation. Various nuts, berries and possibly some tree fruits, maybe also mushrooms, but otherwise it was the animal protein. For millions of years people have been eating meat.

Cholesterol was not a topic before 1950, also overweight and Type 2 diabetes

Agricultural subsidies and cheap sugar have triggered the pandemic and this can be very easily demonstrated. Figures on subsidisation compared to the figures of the increase in diabetes and overweight, resulting in the increase in KHK, etc.

And at the same time, the oil industry with its sick-doing Ranzigen Raps, corn germ….usw oils. The only oil that has been available for 6,000 years is olive oil, raw and cold, it is perfect in its FS composition. But unfortunately you have it “Getting away

Thomas021
6 years ago

Well, what can’t be that can’t be. So it doesn’t matter what I’m showing you, everything is being denied or called false, although it actually clearly shows how harmful animal cholesterol is. The clearly clearly proven damage to the health of animal products, as has now been shown in more than 100,000 studies, should be warning enough not to eat animal products. How strange, however, there is also NOT a study that shows any harmful effects of plant food for humans.

Why are you defending the food of animal products? For, even if these have no harmful effects on human beings, which of course they do not have, the human being has no right to decide to eat animal products, but none at all. Why?

Everyone decides whether to eat animal products, although he has no right to this decision. For he does not only harm himself, but in front of all the animals, and ultimately the whole planet is underlying.

(quoted from ‘Earthling Ed’: “30 excuses from non-vegans and matching answers”:) Quote: “If non-Vegans use this argument, the problem is that they have either very much removed from the fact that their animal products come from a being or they value animals so low that they do not believe the life of their food is worth considering. They believe that the consumption of animal products only concerns them as an individual. Therefore, we are told, “You should respect the position of other people”, when a vegan tries to explain a non-Vegan.

However, as a vegan, we respect the views of others. We respect the views of the 56 billion murdered land animals who did not want to die.

We respect the views of the dairy cows and laying hens, whose bodies are sexually abused, exploited and how to treat disposable commercial goods.

We respect the views of the 2 to 2.7 trillions of fish and marine animals, which are crushed every year from their natural habitat, which are suffocated or crushed.

We respect the views of the animals that have been skinned alive for their fur or those who are abused, tortured and killed for their skin, wool and feathers.

We respect the views of the animals where cosmetic companies and scientists experiment heartlessly, caught in a life of death-qualification and incomprehensible pain.

We respect the views of the animals that are beaten and punished so that they lead circus knits and unnatural behavior to our entertainment.

We respect the views of every animal that is oppressed, tortured and murdered. We respect the views of the people who are also victims within the system of animal exploitation and we even respect the view of our interlocutor, the view that likely to lead a long life. We show this by saying enough that by using animal products they are increasing their risk of cancer, diabetes, stroke, dementia, cardiovascular diseases and any other major disease that plagues our species.

So if our interlocutors say so in spite of us that we are to respect their views, the question arises which other views, apart from their ones, still consider them. If they encourage their personal decision to eat animal products, what is the personal decision of any other being, human or non-human, whose life is treated as inferior or meaningless – just so that people can poison their bodies with products created by the death and fear of those beings? (Citat end)

Naginata
6 years ago

And then follow the zig studies with people, where the cholesterol was the trigger again and again

There are no studies that prove this, neither clinical, evidence-based or cohort studies.

as it is most obvious, for example, at 39. Conference in Williamsburg on heart disease was detected, where then cholesterol was the only (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Risk factor for heart disease was!

also that is wrong, this conference is a farce. It is remote from any reason, the presented studies – simply incorrect.

Bitterkraut
6 years ago

Please spare us this discussion, which has nothing to do with the question at all.

Thomas021
6 years ago

I know these studies. The height of the cholesterol corresponded to a 2,000 times dose. The result is thus consumed and not applicable.

Not only half of the study. Because there is an extra point: “But since the rabbits are too big a difference to the human being, it has been repeated with monkeys and pigs and has experienced the same again. Always the same effect: As soon as cholesterol went up there was arteriosclerosis in animals”

And then take note of the zig studies with people, where the cholesterol was always the trigger, as it is most obvious, for example, at the 39. Conference in Williamsburg on cardiovascular diseases, where then cholesterol of only(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Risk factor for heart disease was!

The arteriosclerosis is produced in the following manner:

By eating cholesterol, which is contained in all animal products: this leads to deposits in the vessels (together with saturated fatty acids). If the endothelial layer is damaged, the cholesterol can be deposited in the vessel wall. There, this is done by so-called. Fress cells phagocytized, i.e. recorded. A deposit, a liquid to soft core of cholesterol, saturated fatty acids and, for the most part, already dead Fress cells are formed in the arterial wall. Around this core, also called lipid core, a binding tissue-permeable cap is formed by immigration of smooth vascular muscle cells, binding tissue cells and calcium phosphate, so that we then have a structure in the vascular wall, which is referred to as a plaque cap.

We will damage the endothelial layer?:

We have blood vessels in our body. These vessels are elastic. When the heart is pumping, these vessels always carry out a jerky extension at each heartbeat, whereby more blood is pumped through the veins at the moment. Very clearly you can feel this when you hold your finger on your neckbeader. The blood vessels have a lining of endothelial cells. When endothelial cells are damaged by eating, for example, animal products (damaging primarily by diet, but also by best substances by smoking), the vessels become unelastic, hard and stiff. What does the body do when the vessels become inelastic? With each heartbeat, the propagation of the vessels is only very small and the vessels lack a part of the enlarged expansion region, so that less blood can be transported. However, the body still has to transport the same amount of blood and transport the same amount of nutrients to tissue and organs. In order to compensate for this, the body is forced to increase blood pressure.

2 factors increase blood pressure: damage to the end-thel cells and cholesterol deposits in the vessels: arteriosclerosis.

Thus, the animal cholesterol fed from the outside is the No-1 killer for humans with the arteriosclerosis and the resulting whole cardiac and circulatory diseases, heart attack, stroke.

Naginata
6 years ago

The plaques in arteries consist of cholesterol.

Plaques are created by the so-called. lipid peroxidation, etc. Singulet oxygen and other endo- & -exogenic radicals.

Free radicals such as O2 (oxygen) cause, inter alia, lipids (fatty acids) oxidizing, (oil becomes Ranzig) this is usually the case when certain vitamins, inter alia vitamin E; C is absent or insufficient, or are present in inactive form. As soon as the LDL lipoprotein is damaged, it is recognized and eaten by the macrophages as a defect. Due to the damage to the lipoprotein, the macrophages (foaming – foam cells) now occur in the intima, follow a chain reaction, further foam cells, followed also by the cholesterol which acts as an in-house antioxidant and thrombocytes. Here we are talking about a non-specific defense. Vitamin E and C are preventive as antioxidants

Studies have been made with rabbits, where a group fed normal and another group were given milk and eggs.

I know these studies. The height of the cholesterol corresponded to a 2,000 times dose. The result is thus consumed and not applicable.

Bitterkraut
6 years ago

You don’t think that this insane text that has nothing to do with the question brings someone to think? It doesn’t read a person.

Bitterkraut
6 years ago

Please don’t get more details. It would have been better to answer the question instead of collapsing a text without point and comma.

Bitterkraut
6 years ago

Your text does not answer the question, or the answer is hidden somewhere in the long stuff nobody reads. Go to mission where it is appropriate. Such long texts that are copied from elsewhere only block the thread otherwise nix. Save yourself and us.

Photon00
6 years ago

You probably got a brainwashing of animal rights and their ideology. Anyone who wants to eat eggs should just do it, whether healthy or not has no interest in the consumer.

Thomas021
6 years ago

Well, that’s a big issue with the eggs. There is much more to say about it. If you make it too short, then the problem is that people don’t really understand it. For we have been brainwashed for a lifetime on the subject of eggs and so man must already know exactly what is going on, otherwise he will not let go of the misguided eggs. With an info that only cracks on the surface, you will hardly bring someone to think.

michi57319
6 years ago

The eggs are as good as I find. For my organic eggs, I pay about 30 cents per piece.

We have the full range. Bio, open land, stable, cage and also brother cock.

Bitterkraut
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

This is what Driekt Marketing is doing.

precursor
6 years ago
Reply to  michi57319

What do we mean?

michi57319
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

Just organic. I’ve never bought brotherhahn, but I mean, there’s the egg around 50 cents. However, I also pay so much on some organic farms for organic eggs.

HansImGlueck178
6 years ago

In which supermarket should there be eggs of unkilled male chicks?

Male chicks do not lay eggs, so they cannot be offered by a supermarket.

Luckily, there are already technologies that are just market-ready and spread out to sort the eggs by sex shortly after fertilization and then in doubt process them to feed or the like before they are produced.

HansImGlueck178
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

This is well known to me, so the last paragraph, and within a few years all the plants will automatically sort shortly after fertilization.

But the question of itself is simply illogical, and next time perhaps think about it more closely.

HansImGlueck178
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

How about “Why can you still not buy eggs from farms in some supermarkets where the male chicks are not killed?”

HansImGlueck178
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

Only the question itself should make sense and the text of it should merely serve for further explanation.

rosepetals
6 years ago

There are such things in my local alnatura store. However, the price is higher than 2-4 cents more. Maybe also to take off as much money for his bad conscience as possible, I don’t know.

If you’re interested, I’ll see the initiative.

However, I do not know whether the male chicks finally land on the plate as soon as they were allowed to live for a few years, and whether the hens are finally slaughtered.

Bitterkraut
6 years ago
Reply to  rosepetals

The few cents more are necessary to raise the chickens halfway cost-covering. The sisters earn the money for the brothers with the eggs, almost.

Spielwiesen
6 years ago
Reply to  Bitterkraut

These ‘brother chickens’ are raised here by a organic chicken farm – for that more eggs of the ‘sister chickens’ – you have to decide whether it is worth this political price.

Shoron
6 years ago

Yeah, that would be nice. I heard it would be much more expensive.

ApfelTea
6 years ago

Because there are still enough people to buy such eggs. Most of them.

ShakingAnita
6 years ago

Is there recently in the country of sale! 2.99 for 6 eggs. I’m very happy. And in the Rewe.

precursor
6 years ago

I’d pay 2-4 cents more if I could finance this chick a good life if that’s possible.

But, how do you recognize such eggs / companies at all?

precursor
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

Is it also in the normal supermarket, i.e. penny market, aldi, market purchase, etc., or only in special organic shops?

I haven’t bought eggs for a long time, so I don’t really know.

Bitterkraut
6 years ago
Reply to  precursor

The eggs are correspondingly declared as hen/him eggs. Or as a brotherhahn egg.

The egg prizes are the one that you’d get, but the chickens have to be mashed. And since the chickens of egg breeds have less Flesich than that of meat breeds, this is a difficult business and so far actually a drought shop for the companies.

The chickens of the breeds, which also baptize for meat, lay fewer eggs. So the breeders would have to answer first.

There are attempts to do so, but it must also remain profitable for the firms, otherwise it will be nix.

precursor
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

I have an Edeka store near me, I live in Hamburg.

If I buy eggs again, which is rarely the case, I’ll look there.

Bitterkraut
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

That’s right, but it’s not cost-covering. The cocks are already marketed, but not at reasonable prices, which justify the rearing financially.

precursor
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

Do they have a beautiful life or not?

Rango87
6 years ago

Probably because not constant enough can be delivered the amount they want to be able to steal in the money.

Rango87
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

The heads of retail markets.

ShakingAnita
6 years ago

In the meantime, there is 🙂 purchasing country. And are organic.

kiniro
6 years ago

There are in some Rewe-Filials “Head and Bube” eggs.

kiniro
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

Also not in our village-rewe.
So far, I only discovered them in Frankfurt-Rödelheim.

Photon00
6 years ago

Animal welfare also intervenes in such holdings and they must comply with this. It has nothing to do with animals being killed. So your question is wrong.

Photon00
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

This “Is animal welfare unimportant for consumers?” because it has nothing to do with animal welfare.

Photon00
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

The animal welfare law in Germany is already comparatively strict….

BerwinEnzemann
6 years ago

If they are not shredded or gassed, a life in agony is before them. Where’s the animal welfare?

Photon00
6 years ago
Reply to  mulano

You don’t need to tell a vegan animal lawyer. For them, any kind of animal use is a crime.

BerwinEnzemann
6 years ago

Let me decide what I think is a crime and what is not.

DreiBesen
6 years ago

Question misunderstood, answer deleted. —