Wann kauft Ihr euch ein E-Auto?
Unter welchen Bedingungen würdet Ihr euch ein E-Auto kaufen wenn Ihr bis jetzt nur Verbrenner gefahren seid?
Ich für meinen Teil wenn: Gebrauchtwagen wertstabiler bleiben bzw. Batterien länger halten oder einfacher getauscht werden können, in jeder Straße mindestens 2 Ladestationen, bzw. eine garantierte Schnell-Ladestation für Anwohner in meiner Wohnanlage sowie günstiges besser kostenloses Laden auf der Arbeit. Das laden sollte auch viel einfach sein ohne dass man 5 verschiedene karten braucht um überall tanken zu können, hätte kein Bock für einen Arbeitstag pendeln 10€ zu bezahlen fürs Volltanken. Im Moment ist ein Vergleichbares Fahrzeug als Verbrenner günstiger als ein E-Modell.
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I’ll think back seven years. This is the time when I decided that no new burners will be bought in my company.
It was enough for me to realize that, despite apparent exhaust gas cleaning with her entire backpack of oil delivery and transportation, burners are much worse for our habitat than we should think so far.
At that time, I tried for my company, which is at least an economic company, to make it so that it is not an incalculable economic risk. There was no funding at that time, or was decided shortly after.
At the time, I set the following points:
In addition, I have invested a lot of time, power and money so that we can load all our cars at home and in the company.
What I want to say with this story, why always wait for something to happen from outside? We’re people, we can do.
I didn’t regret it for a moment, that I was almost there from the beginning. Of course the first cars had ridiculously small batteries. sometimes under 20 kWh and were able to charge with max 40 kWh. But it was fun to drive with it, it was fun to explain to other people on the parking lot an electric car. And no, I never wanted to get back to the burner from the first truck.
See good attitude! That’s the only way we’re going forward!
https://www.enbw.com/blog/electromobilitaet/laden/fastload-fuers-e-auto-real-schaedlich/
What if they’re always busy? Better parking at home on your own parking space.
What will IMHO be history in the foreseeable future.
For example, you can charge at EnBW and Ionity for basic fee. That’s not what we’re talking about.
Apart from that, your indication is pointless because it is in no relation to a route. I’ll pay twice with my gasoline.
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Ha and if I don’t have my own place?
Then you may not have a car? Or the rest of my posting is valid.
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There’s an exemple. The current prices at the charging columns are very different. Since it can be that you drive cheaper with a burner than with an e-car..
We did not allow owners to install their own charging station. It was founded by overloading the network.
So you have to drive to a sometimes stationed charging column and wait there until the battery is charged. If you have bad luck, this is already occupied and you have to look for another charging station somewhere..
Drive from Munich to Berlin, Magdeburg or Dresden with an electric car. If you have to keep dates, it’s impossible.
A charging station up to 11KW cannot be denied. Point. For your needs, you just need the right car. I don’t need to load from Munich to Berlin. And if I were, I’d prefer a veil. There are over 60 quick loaders of various operators. There’s something for every galley bag. And never all occupied.
This is probably no longer a reasoning. Last management and especially SteuVE. And if necessary, you should consider drilling the line.
The range is always better: https://insideevs.de/features/497253/electroautos-grosest-range-ranking-topten/
And the charging speed too.
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Conditions:
– higher battery power (at least 600km INKL.! Air conditioning or heating
– Charging columns to a sufficient extent (resident in Bavaria in the province, there are probably people who do not even know that there are e-cars, let alone having ever seen a charging column)
– cheaper shop, e.g. on parking spaces in work without having to hope that a column is free or not broken otherwise you probably never come home anymore
– faster charging (who wants to stand up 30min on a gas station every few hours?)
It’s all right. Except for the charging columns in the Bavarian province. Otherwise everywhere.
Why do Di 30min want to wait for charging? It won’t take 20 minutes.
if I have a garage / parking space with Wallbox.
And if the electricity is not more expensive per 100 km than a saving gasoline .. what else pay 10,000 euros extra for?
A top reason is, of course, a company car that is only taxed with 1/4
Not at all. We had a VW ID3 from February 2020 to February 2024. Sold with a lot of loss after 100,000 km. The worst resale income ever. Only problems with the card, lukewarm processing, electronic bugs without end, incompetent service, high entry price, expensive insurance. Thanks to electricity from the photovoltaic system (but also that was costly incl. Buffer storage!) – a thick plus, otherwise little good. Frequent long-haul trips to the far south little enjoyable – charging infrastructure!! E-car? Get out! Since February 2024 we have been driving the Mercedes 220 TE S124, which is inherited from the grandfather, automatic, climate, sunroof, stereo, metallic lacquer, ABS, 2 airbags, good 30 years old, slightly over 200,000 km down, first hand, garage cars, accident-free, any service made, H-mark. A dream! Rides super, as new, economical, comfortable, spacious, strong, reliable. Were in France, Spain, Istaltar, Morocco with it. Not a Macke!
VW can’t keep an electric car, Chinese and Japanese are much more, e.g. I think Pomestar is nice.
With E-Pkw it’s like “Ilse”
Ilse-Ilse. keener wants to see.
naja the id3 is not necessarily the forerunner. High consumption, slow charging power and relatively expensive. Most other manufacturers can do better.
When do you buy an e-car?
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E-cars stand at the dealer’s tyres angular, leading to zT dramatic discounts.
China wants to build passenger car factories in Europe in order to avoid import duty sanctions, then prices of around 10 K for a City E-Fz are possible.
It’s already a lot in the pipeline what might interest us as a “motorized shopping basket/drit car” for the near area.
The E-C3, E-R5 Alpine or Grande Panda with prices announced at 25 K.
The problem with E-Pkw is, as with all technical devices, that the subsequent generation on the market immediately presses the used truck value, who should buy E-Pkw/must run it down to the bitter end.
With regard to the life of the battery and its possible charging cycles at the local wallbox or the expensive fast charge, there are always only vague manufacturer details. Mostly, the battery-bearing part, can not be replaced or only for very expensive.
The instantaneous starting torque already makes wide grinning, but also eats the drive tires.
The tram sound of E-Pkw artificially trimmed on engine over speaker, I am V8 Muscle Car Dodge- Jeep fan.
Jeep stands for j-ust e-nough e-ssential p-arts (only important parts-what is not installed can not break)
These “rolling mobile phones” where you can no longer have switches, all controlled by the menu are quite susceptible in hard everyday use with weather and percussion boxes.
I would like to buy a Polestar 2, but at the moment the charging infrastructure at my place of residence is not so good and in the work I could take in the best case a 3 phase high-current cable with 15A, because our charging columns are “reserved” for the achso beautiful service vehicles.
E-cars are just something for urban use. I see hybrids in front, 50-100 KM pure electric and then a few hundred KM on top with petrol or diesel.
In addition, you pay for the smatrics easy 40cent per KWh compared to home under 18cent per KWh.
I don’t intend to get an e-car.
And the conditions should be:
There are already those who create within 30 minutes from 10% to 80%.
I’d be at least. 500km at 40°C outdoor temperature and cooled down to pleasant 21°C. I mean I have a 60L tank and tank approx. 1 times a month and don’t need to worry if the climate is constantly running to 100%. Once an e-car has been tried out and at 400km the climate has risen and the sport has gone, at once only 260km, was already uff.
And if you are fully loaded with an e-car and drive 4 people, then the range will be reduced even more. The ranges are also valid only if you are on the terms. driving under which the ranges were determined.
You don’t hear how much kilometers the range is reduced when the heating runs that radio and light are switched on. If the vehicle is full and you’re driving a little more. These are not sales arguments.
The ranges are multiple apertures.
That’s why I’m totally uninteresting. As a second car it wouldn’t be a problem at all. But I just need a car.
Then the E car had no heat pump. Our ZOE creates up to 400km in summer. also with air conditioning.
because this would finally break the limited range. Since we are several drivers we would never drive routes over 200km with E, the loss of time and comfort is much too great
So do we. Unfortunately, there are no affordable e-lers who can draw 2t. 😉
BTW we have both E and Diesel, so I know very well about the shortcommings of E
haha. That’s right.
only who wants to have a cricket:-)
Well. Let’s look at the Petrol alternative. The Clio. In the smallest equipment the 160 tip makes, but needs 30min. Whatever. The ZOE is basically enough for most people. At least for a small car.
The Netherlands and Scandinavia only catches this because of the control density – otherwise all the Zoefahrer known to me have said so far that it is designed for 90-100km/h. And as I said, limit 150 km/h to get the lawn out. 140 center, 160 left are worth
140-150 on the track. But not right. At Eco I can also pass through, but does not change the facts. In other countries such as the Netherlands, Sweden or Norway, this works wonderfully with the limits. Transport is much more liquid. However, I do not want to make explicit use of this. With our diesel I like to drive 160+ ðŸ ̃‚
The older at 130 and at 100 in Eco. I can’t confirm the study empirically, rather you swim well with 140-150 – so 150km/h would also be a sensible speed limit to take the tips out
What do you know in a hurry?
Since I’m driving as well as never driving the highway, it’s enough. This is also sufficient for the largest part of the Germans. Lt. an IW study run 77% of Germans less than 130kmh. The ZOE locks at 140.
But go quickly with the Zoe anyway
My next car will certainly be an electric one.
But it will take 2 to 4 years until I buy one
If mine doesn’t go over the TÜV anymore.
And then it would have to be small cars with bearable prices.
We already have an E car. The reason is quite simple. We have a large PV system on the roof and ultimately produce the power itself. We have a map of Renault. With this card I can load everywhere. Why this argument is always called with the durability, I’m veiled. The current batteries create about 1,000 charging cycles. That would be about 350,000km at our car. I’m not really bad now.
Edit: We also have a diesel for large distances and for drawing a WoWhat. The e car is the second car
NIE!!!
When I calculate everything together, it’s the biggest environmental sin ever. Rare earths for the batteries by child labour. Eco-flows that are not sufficiently available. Massive electronics that are no longer repaired and only replaced by suspicion. Electric scrap is special waste, just like asbestos. Enormous weight, which loads the roads similar to trucks and thus increases wear. The high efficiency of the electric motor also does not occur. Mass must be accelerated and braked again, which produces local fine dust. He’s more dangerous than the visible dirt because he goes deeper into the lungs. In the case of a small accident, total damage is the same because hardly one repairs, let alone any guarantee. High production costs with corresponding environmental impact. The current vehicle stock has the environmental impact of production behind it. Will be repaired and not immediately disposed of. Causes a higher load on site, but not as concentrated as the production sites for e-cars. Environmental technology can be an old-timer without cat. ca. 250000 km drive in order to just like the production of an e-car. It never counts on cost. Who is willing, or able to pay twice, knowing that the car does not last longer but rather keeps shorter until the replacement. It is a purely political decision that knows neither reason, economics nor ecology and is not justified.
Bin Türke and rather not. “highest” as a small car when I live in a city and that was. I also drive to Turkey and there is an e-car no alternative. Moreover, Europe is not so sure that I would wait somewhere until my car is fully loaded.
What does that have to do with nationality?
Because you drive to Turkey more often by car and there is no reasonable charging infrastructure. Moreover, it should not be appropriate to be robbed by local bands at the Balkan route at the few charging stations. Every 30 to 40 minutes long charging stop beyond the local Wallbox is a security risk throughout Europe! Not only at night and as a woman!
Right!
First, you often take a lot from home. My mother often bought a lot. Be it cutlery, food or other stuff. Even lamps from home. The pieces of furniture are much more beautiful and cheaper there. Secondly, there are also people who are afraid to fly. Thirdly, it is much cheaper by car.
Wow, you really know. That’s it. We often go to Turkey. Bulgaria and Serbia are particularly dangerous. We used to wait at the border and talk to other Turkish families so that we can go on together.
Host-workers often have tens of family members and take a lot of things to the old home. Often therefore vehicles in VW Bus size. In addition, as there are often no places around the corner of an airport and a car rental is not always close to Turkey. Practical knowledge!
Then I’d rather fly.
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Not at all, never before. Above all, it is only a transition technology until we have something more profitable. I think hybrid is much better.
Hybrid is useless, the car has more weight and therefore also more consumption, which is in turn absurd only to drive a few kilometers in the city in e-mode.
You’re right. Is a tweeter, but practical for the versatile use of the car. But depending on the outside temperature, waste 30 to 50% of the stored energy for heating or cooling the electronics and the battery so that it is not capitulated Sustainable and a blessing for the environment, right?
There’s one in two weeks, we’re very happy.
If I am buried, stand in the will
A Tesla model X as a gravestone, lol
Never.
On the one hand, from rejection of the technology, on the other hand, they are still only scrap if one day slips into my price range <3000 €.
The price for full tanking is not decisive, but how much 100km costs.
I don’t have a car, but if I should buy one, I guess I’ll have an electric vehicle.
I probably think this year… more precisely, there’s a Renault 5e with 90 kW either bang green or squeaky. I might have the 67 kW, but this thing is not fast-adjustable. for electro conditions nicely light, with about 1500 kg compact and yet you sit well in it… then I just have 3 cars – what should 😀
Lg, Anna
If the last burner has collapsed.