Voliere zu klein?

Hallo,

ich habe derzeit 2 Wellis und möchte mir 2 Nymphensittiche holen, jetzt stellt sich die Frage ob das Voliere am Foto für die Haltung von diesen 4 Vögeln überhaupt möglich ist (vom Platz her gesehen)?

Danke für eure Antworten.

LG

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Yukiminini
5 years ago

Two waves already need a wide of at least 80 cm – better 1 meter. This “voliere” which is more a cage is much too small even for the waves.

To keep waves and nymphs together, the cage should have a width of at least 1.6 meters, better 2 meters and, of course, always free flight!

Nymphic parakeets can be quickly annoyed by waves, as waves are more active and always talk. In addition, they are dominant and could always drive the nymphs away from eating.

The room should also be furnished for you with several places to land and forage search.

Generally: width is important for a cage, not height! Birds don’t fly up like a helicopter! And all the birds always want to sit up. It’s never possible in such a small thing.

Please inform yourself about the kind attitude of waves before you get other birds.

gregor443
5 years ago

Basically you are well advised when nymphsittiche not with shafts.

Although this often succeeds, both bird species are much too different in their temperament, which leads to stress and thus makes such an attitude suboptimal.

The cage on the picture is sufficient from size, but it has the wrong blank.

Both waves and nymphs prefer cages or Volumes which are clearly broader (min. 2:1) than high.

This is particularly important for the activity of the birds and thus for the permanent fitness and healthy keeping.

It would be even better to allow the birds to fly in the room for a long time.

The cage can then be smaller, which has the advantage that an optimal and protected cage location can then be realized high above, clearly above the heads of the upright person.

Best regards

gregor443

sabrinaknittel
5 years ago

The information about the arrangement of the lattice bars (horizontal) comes from a very old book about the attitude of corrugations.

LiniB1983
5 years ago

Could go.

For 4 birds of two different species, perhaps one more tick is too small.

Nymphies like to have a certain retreat in front of the quirligen, sometimes annoying, Wellis.

So I’d rather get an even bigger cage or two cages or stay with a bird type.

I also find the form somewhat inappropriate. My birds have always stopped in the cage mainly in the upper area. There’s kind of unnecessary room down there. It’s better to take a volunteer that’s more of a width. But that’s not an expert opinion now. Just like I always watched it with my birds.

Hopefully I don’t have to mention that they need free flight every day. :

LiniB1983
5 years ago
Reply to  hisgirl15

So the tastes are different. I’ve always had an upper seater. 😀

I mean, you can expect a QM area per bird couple.

Pauliwauly
5 years ago

I think it’s too small. Even if there’s only Wellis in there now. The thing with these cages is that the size of the cage consists primarily of height. But birds are not helicopters, so they can only use this height to a limited extent. I would use the space you have for a volunteer completely, in two different types, possibly also see if you get one with separating grid if they were not tolerated.

gregor443
5 years ago

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The vertical rods are because the shaft legs otherwise crush the tail springs.

The horizontal strutting was only up-to-date by the transhumanizing gelaber of the so-called “animalists”.

In the past, more than a hundred years, cages were used almost only vertically scattered.

In a well-furnished waves, or even only one cage, the birds climb elsewhere, but not on the grid.

You should visit a bird show and watch the accommodation of the birds to be evaluated there.

You won’t see a horizontally scattered cage with the professionals.

Best regards

gregor443

myotis
5 years ago

the cage is much too small for 4 birds and above all(!) of the most imaginable bad form: the large height hardly uses the animals because they are not below mgl. Observers – for example you – are… (this is such a typical “Papageienkäfig” and “practical” from human point of view: takes little space away …)

Width (or length depending on the measure) is much more important, provided the cage is high (seat bars at least on your eye height or higher…)

the full height is used only in a correct volume (room high), even if many cages are called “voliere”…

Nightblade267
5 years ago

The people are definitely too small. For nymphs anyway.

By the way, birds are not helicopters. So please look at the minimum dimensions for a few nymphs, then guess the wellies… And remember: Better wider than high!

Under 1qm floor space should be there nix…

Luna191
5 years ago

It is not suitable for wells or for nymphs and not for both!

spikecoco
5 years ago

They are not suitable for birds, they are high and not long, but the animals are not helicopters.

StinkenderPanda
5 years ago

Hello,

You don’t have to worry first. For two wells, this is completely sufficient 🙂

sabrinaknittel
5 years ago

To all that has already been written I supplement that longitudinal rods are not suitable for climbing. A cage with cross bars would be better.

gregor443
5 years ago
Reply to  sabrinaknittel

Shafts should always be placed in vertically wired cages. A horizontal wiring is unsuitable!!

sabrinaknittel
5 years ago
Reply to  gregor443

What a bullshit! And you’re pretending to be a waver experiment? The birds often climb around the grid. They slide down on vertical bars.

sabrinaknittel
5 years ago

That also applies to you.

gregor443
5 years ago

You shouldn’t attack others if you don’t know professionally.

sabrinaknittel
5 years ago

All bullshit!

gregor443
5 years ago

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The vertical rods are because the shaft legs otherwise crush the tail springs. The horizontal strutting was only up-to-date by the transhumanizing gelaber of the so-called “animalists”. In the past, more than a hundred years, cages were used almost only vertically scattered. In a well-furnished waves, or even only one cage, the birds climb elsewhere, but not on the grid. And because I’m a waver expert, I know that, unlike you.