Verwarnung bekommen – darf ich hier nicht parken?

Ich habe einen Brief von der Behörde bekommen.

Tatvorwurf:

Sie parkten auf einem Straßenteil, der weder durch Zeichen 315 noch durch eine Parkflächenmarkierung zumParken freigegeben war.

ich lade mal ein Bild von der Straße hoch. Ich habe quasi hinter diesen weißen LKW geparkt mit den rechten Rädern auf dem Bordstein. Ist das hier wirklich verboten?

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AntonAntonsen
5 months ago

with the right wheels on the curb

That’s the problem. This is a way of parking.

If you look at the area close to it (where the 3.7m sign stands), no one would doubt that it is a walkway. This halves in the further course only from 4 plates width to 1.5 to 2 plates width, but it does not end. There’s a way to go.

If you had not parked on the boarding stone but on the edge of the road, everything would have been fine (mainly a residual width of 3.05m).

Even if it were not a way to go, the alleged offence would be true.
By the way, I only know him from Hamburg. He cannot find what is lawful, however, in the Federal Single Act Catalogue, because the federal states may design their own deeds.

According to § 12 para. 4 StVO is for parking the side strips or otherwise the edge of the roadway. In addition, only traffic signs 314 and 315 and Parking space markings parking.

Even if it were not a walkway, it is certainly not a side strip and corresponding traffic signs or parking area markings are also not present. This is a part of the road which, according to § 12 para. 4 StVO is not released for parking.

I don’t have the warning money for the deeds you have accused, but I think he’ll be under the warning money for walkway parking (55€). In this respect, happiness in misfortune.

AntonAntonsen
4 months ago
Reply to  badenglish

Okay, I didn’t realize that it was actually a green area on the photo.

Then we could actually discuss whether it is a traffic area at all. The fact that the plates end completely could be interpreted as the end of the walkway. Another use of the green area intended for transport purposes is not apparent.

If it is not a traffic area, this would mean that the StVO is not applicable there. Accordingly, parking could not be punished according to a StVO plant.

I’d like to say that Green plant regulation possible. There would be a fine between 25 and 150 euros (No 6.3.2.3). But only for the driver. He should be firm. There is no “holding liability” for parking offences such as public road traffic.

If you want to go against the warning money, you should legally know a little what to do to argue accordingly. Whether this would be crowned by success remains uncertain. At €25 you should think about it. In the event of a defeat, it becomes more than twice as expensive.

lilatrudi
5 months ago

… parked with the right wheels on the curb.

If you had parked completely on the street instead, you would have saved a ticket.

Smartass67
5 months ago

In the public transport area, parking is a traffic sign. Section 39 of the Road Transport Regulation (StVO). Accordingly, the parking lines are retained there when the vehicle is parked.

On the photo you can see directly opposite marked parking spaces.

Any questions?

In addition, you can only park with two wheels above the curb if this is explicitly allowed ( traffic sign 315).

AntonAntonsen
5 months ago
Reply to  Smartass67

On the photo you can see directly opposite marked Parking.

I don’t see any marking, just one (unmarked) side/park strip.

Any questions?

What does the opposite parking strip have to do with the violation of the questioner?

Smartass67
5 months ago
Reply to  AntonAntonsen

Everything. And what do you want to know that he’s unmarked? At any rate, it looks very structurally at car parks and where they are, you cannot park on the rest of the road.

Smartass67
5 months ago

The last sentence is a rumor.

AntonAntonsen
5 months ago

Everything.

It is certainly possible to make a sufficient judgement on the basis of this answer.

what do you want to know that he is unmarked?

Because I don’t see any marks in the photo. And by the way, no traffic signs.

At any rate, looks very structurally on parking

Right.

and where are you cannot park on the rest of the road

Only in the same direction of travel (second row). This has no influence on the other direction of travel.

ArminJ19732023
5 months ago

I would even like to say that the truck and the red focus have lost here also nix at the place quasi parking is basically not allowed to look at the narrow streets and a healthy person who loves his car is not parked there – only if he wants to scrape the car haha- my winungp

Mungukun
5 months ago

They parked on a part of the road that was not released for parking by sign 315 or by parking space marking

Look at character 315:

Only if this sign is there, then you can park on the way.

I almost parked behind this white truck with the right wheels
on the curb. Is this really forbidden?

Yes everywhere parking on the curb is prohibited, where it is not allowed by a sign or markings.

Mungukun
5 months ago
Reply to  badenglish

I just thought on the way

What’s that supposed to be if there’s no way to go? An elevated roadway for action with off-road vehicles? Of course it’s a way out of the curb.

Mungukun
5 months ago

Still, you can’t park there. A car can only be parked on fixed grounds (street, parking). If otherwise oil drips from a car, the environment is directly affected.

If you were parked on the street, it wouldn’t have been a problem. The problem was clearly, according to warning, that was standing with the tire on the curb.

schleudermaxe
5 months ago

Nö, also with us have cars or I don’t want to look for parts of it on a walkway.

priesterlein
5 months ago

Well, yes, the car has nothing to look for on the curb if it is not regulated by signs.

Aveairam
5 months ago

Parking with wheels on the curb is prohibited!

peterobm
5 months ago

Parking on the curb is prohibited

AntonAntonsen
5 months ago
Reply to  peterobm

Parking the Bordstein (railway edge) is even prescribed. Parking on the curb is forbidden.

peterobm
5 months ago
Reply to  AntonAntonsen

the curb is not a roadway edge, but the increased transition to the pedestrian path

peterobm
5 months ago

That’s right. I didn’t think of anything like that.

AntonAntonsen
5 months ago

Wow, what a not-sounding statement.

Okay, I think that’s enough for every reader to make his own judgment.

peterobm
5 months ago

where the road is finished, now becomes colorful

AntonAntonsen
5 months ago

And where exactly is the edge of the road now?

At the beginning of the rain gutter (which is not everywhere)?

end of the rain gutter or At the beginning of the curb?

End of the curb?

Where exactly?

peterobm
5 months ago

some also say rain gutter rainfall. then comes the board and sidewalk

AntonAntonsen
5 months ago

What do you think is the edge of the road?

KevinHP
5 months ago

I think that the curb is part of the walk. Otherwise I would have learned to park in the driving school.