Vegane Alternativen enthalten Chemie?

Hallo,

ich habe schon seit längerem die Diskussion mit einem Freund. Ich bin dabei weniger Fleisch zuessen und auf Vegane Alternativen umzugreifen. Allerdings redet er mir immer ein das zum Beispiel in der Veganen Salami sehr viel mit Chemie gemacht wurde und das Schädlich sein soll. Ich bin der Meinung das es eher das Gegenteil ist weil die Alternativen pflanzlich basiert sind.
Wird Chemie in veganen Alternativen verwendet und ist das wirklich schädlich?

danke im Voraus

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Bodhgaya
1 year ago

Everything consists of chemistry, both the salami of meat and tofu. Chemistry is not the opposite of natural, but describes the scientific composition of substances.

For example, almost all food contains the chemical dihydrogenmonoxide. This is nothing other than the chemical description for water. So just because something artificial & creepy sounds, it’s not bad. Or here someone has summarized the chemical composition of blueberries as they might stand on the pack:

It is possible to talk critically about additives in terms of vegan substitute products. But even there is usually a warning. In the EU, more than 300 additives are authorised, half of which are considered safe. Some even have the status bio.

Those who still consider can also eat substitute products without additives. There is enough of this, e.g. this vegan sour roast:

In addition, meat regularly also contains additives. However, they do not have to be labeled differently from vegan products. These include: Colour, Aromatic substances, Sodium acetate, Diphosphates or nitrite salt.

bert00712
1 year ago

Plant based does not mean that it is automatically healthy. Salami, however, is such a food whose original is not healthy anyway (Pekel salt, salty, fatty).

Many meat alternatives are ultra-strong-processed and from the ingredients you can doubt whether there are any vitamins there:

drinking water, rapeseed oil, 6%Wheat glutenaroma, thickener: carrageen, conjak, methylcellulose; Salt, Potato Protein, 1.6%Wheat flour, spices, grape sugar, citrus fibres, dyes: iron oxides, carotine.

https://www.ruegenwalder.de/produkte/vegane-produkte/veganer-wurstaufschnitt/vegane-salami/classic#:text=drink water%2C%20Raps%C3%B6l%2C%206%25%20Weizengluten,%aro2C%20dyes%3A%20Eisenoxide2

Even if some additives are authorised, one should look more closely at whether they do not affect the intestinal flora, for example. In a mouse test, Carrageen fired inflammation, which could be weakened by probiotics.

Gruffalo
1 year ago

For all foods, you can find the ingredients list somewhere. In general, the longer the list, the more unhealthy the product.

5Leonarda
1 year ago
Reply to  Gruffalo

And the healthiest foods have even my ingredients list, you see what you have!

Manofaustria863
1 year ago

Yeah, he didn’t. If less meat then more vegetables. Sounds funny, but so😂😂. And not the whole stuff that tastes and looks like meat but none is. If I don’t like broccoli. I also ned a meat form that looks like broccoli.

In addition, many additives or a lot of salt are present in these. Everything with E and number is bad anyway. MSG and acidifiers are then added in unechst fish or something. Simply ned so leiwand for the body.

Helmut3445
1 year ago

“made with chemistry”? He has no idea. When that is called artificial additives.

In the correct sausage, there is also a pellet salt which forms carcinogenic nitrosamines (of secondary amines). Processed meat products are already classified as carcinogenic. Unprocessed is considered to be most likely carcinogenic.

5Leonarda
1 year ago

On the page “Hello Vegan.de” you will find a list of ingredients for each product.

In my opinion, however, if you want to live vegans, you should not have so much access to substitute products, but rather prepare your food from healthy organic foods.

These replacement products are first expensive and secondly you do not get any reference to the food.

For example, if you do “vegan liver sausage” yourself, which is very simple, then you know exactly what food, which ingredients, which vegetables and other ingredients are processed in it and how the product has come about.

Vegan liver sausage from beans and tofu…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iCGobtJ77Q

And then you don’t call “vegan liver sausage” anymore, but because of me, “Kidney beans/Räuchertofu bread soak.” And you don’t necessarily go after whether it tastes identical to liver sausage now, because that’s so delicious simply by what it is.

A month ago, I didn’t even know it and now tried it in two variants and both tasted very good (upper tasty 😋), although the first variant was without smoker tofu because I didn’t have a hand.

It’s fatal when you cling to the meat taste. You can get rid of it well.

From the above mentioned shop I buy some products, but they only consist of soy flour and call themselves “textured soy product”.

The Cubes For example, I like to fried as croutons in salad. With the cubes and all similar products I have made the experience that it is good if I add some salt to the oil before roasting.

I like a time Wheaty Vegan Aufschnitt Chorizo 80g put on my pizza, but meanwhile I don’t need it anymore. 😂

Honeysuckle18
1 year ago

Thanks for this “Steilvorlage”…;)

  • “Hey vegans, your replacement products are chemical and unhealthy!” Only one of the many – extremely ingenious – Youtube videos by “Der Artgenosse”

Show this to your friend…;)

BooBear7
1 year ago

The word chemistry in connection with vegan substitute products usually uses people who have the least idea. If you make such statements you should generally dispense with processed food, is that your friend?

You should just be aware that the vegan substitute products only imitate the meat, and not the ingredients. So it’s not a perfect substitute. I find it a good way not to miss out on the taste but it should be really just a supplement. These substitute products are often not very nourishing. Since then it’s just pure gluten. Meat again contains many important nutrients. Of course, you are as much as antibiotics in it, but you still get vitamins.

iq1000
1 year ago

You want Salami to take a real salami.

If you want something vegetarian then you can buy potatoes, noodles, carrots and 1000 other things.

I wouldn’t do that shit. Especially since it is expensive and cruelly tastes.

Daneeeeeee
1 year ago

Vegan alternatives can contain various ingredients to improve taste and consistency. Many of these ingredients are synthetic, but this does not automatically mean that they are harmful. Many have been thoroughly tested to ensure that they are safe for consumption. It is important to read the labels to learn about the ingredients contained. Some people have concerns about certain additives in vegan alternatives, so it could be useful to choose more natural or less processed options. It is recommended to talk to a nutritionist or a person skilled in the art to find the best vegan alternatives that meet your own needs.
MfG

SkR1997
1 year ago

Highly processed products – including both classic and vegan salami – should only be consumed in dimensions.

If he tells you that you can’t eat vegan salami, you can say, but you know that in ready pizza there are a lot of additives?

P.S. I’m a big fan of red lenses. And if I buy a piece of meat, then unprocessed by the butcher.

Shithappened
1 year ago

Sure it will. As with any food..

You can largely avoid it by not using any or a few further processed things.

Curasanus
1 year ago

Yes, especially vegan foods that imitate meat contain many chemical additives.

Tasha
1 year ago

Tip: In each library there are a number of vegan cookbooks with recipes completely without substitutes, only with vegetables and legumes, grains etc.

AriZona04
1 year ago

I don’t know – admitted. But what I’m asking: do you have to be spare parts that you eat?

Why isn’t vegetables and cereals just enough? Don’t give up any replacement products. Put together dishes that are just meatless. Then you’re on the safe side.

5Leonarda
1 year ago
Reply to  JuliusX06

Just search on the net for “vegane Burger”, how to make with which ingredients themselves. There could be something that would make you feel like a stool!

Kugelflitz
1 year ago
Reply to  JuliusX06

That’s fine. You can make delicious patties from old bread or beans or other legumes.

AriZona04
1 year ago
Reply to  JuliusX06

Well, a steak is a steak. And can’t be replaced.

With what can you live – what do you definitely not need in life? Then there can be no burgers.

Kugelflitz
1 year ago

Highly processed foods are always unhealthy and the vegan salami is processed even higher than the regular. I would generally only consume salami in exceptions and completely avoid herbal alternatives.

There are so many delicious dishes that you do not need any meat substitute at all.

Daniel551980
1 year ago

Once food is processed, this is critical. The stronger the degree of processing the less one has control as a consumer about what is really in there and how high-quality the whole is.

Those who take a lot of heavily processed foods are generally unhealthy and are more susceptible to overweight and associated diseases. This shows a lot of studies and investigations.

In the case of the vegan alternative products, the respective product is highly relevant. The longer the ingredients list, the worse. Most vegan protein sources are increasingly poorer from availability and digestibility than proteins from animal products. Additives and flavors are often used to achieve the taste and consistency. For this, the products are usually very expensive.

Some products found residues of mineral oil.

If you want to do something for animal welfare with the reduction of meat, you should look exactly what brand/manufacturer is the substitute product. If it belongs to companies such as Nestlé, Rügenwalder, Mc Donalds, Tönnies, etc., you give exactly to the corporations, the mass livestock keep promoting your money…

Honeysuckle18
1 year ago
Reply to  Daniel551980

“The longer the ingredients list, the worse.”

Because of this your assumption, you should never consume any more – snooze – apples…;)

Daniel551980
1 year ago
Reply to  Honeysuckle18

You realize that my comment and the question is about industrially processed products and not about foods that have grown naturally on the tree.

Or did you ever see a list of ingredients on the product when buying apples?

Honeysuckle18
1 year ago

Today almost nothing is “natural” – at least not in the so-called “western world”…

Maybe we can both agree on it…;)

Daniel551980
1 year ago

that’s nice and good. And I already know. What has this to do with my answer?

Moreover, the questioner suggests something completely different with the term “chemical” and does not stick to what we both understand.

You could have used the term unnaturally or strongly processed…

Honeysuckle18
1 year ago

I already…

ALL in the world is “chemical” – also we humans consist of pure chemistry…;)

Daniel551980
1 year ago

I did not mention the term in my answer. What are you going to do with your comments? Unfortunately, don’t understand your motive and meaning.

Honeysuckle18
1 year ago

At least as it is about the definition of the term “chemical”…