Unbemannte Flugzeuge erledigen immer mehr militärische Aufgaben. Doch warum gibt es noch keine AWACS-Frühwarn-Drohnen mit rotierendem Radar auf dem Rücken?

Durch besonders lange Flugdauer und null Crew-Gefährdung beim frontnahen Einsatz wären unbemannte Drohnen doch prädestiniert hierfür, während sich die alten Boeing-Dinosaurier nicht so lange in der Luft halten können und gleich eine Heerschar von Besatzungsmitgliedern stirbt wenn sie abgeschossen werden

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BackupBone
1 month ago

In the Navy, this is due to the fact that radar drones with the performance of an E2 Hawkeye would be too large for carrier landings. In general, the size advantage of a powerful radar drone is still too low compared to a manned aircraft.

For the control team, a pure satellite connection from a 1000km wide deployment center to the drone would be too unreliable and slow.

RedPanther
2 months ago

Look at what the acronym AWACS stands for: Early Warning And Control System.

“and control”!

AWACS aircraft are not only there for clarification, but they are also flying leaders that coordinate their own aircraft. In the E-3 Sentry, 12 people sit in the “mission deck” to keep their own planes in mind, coordinate attack operations, receive status messages, issue new orders, record and forward information ( oral observations!)…

And that’s not what a computer does.

in front use

What should AWACS be used for? They have nothing to look for.

while the old Boeing dinosaurs cannot keep in the air for so long

Well, you’re talking like they’re gonna land after two hours. In fact, they can remain in the air for 10 hours without air refueling and then they can of course also be refueled in the air.

and a hostage of crew members dies when they are fired

It is not intended to operate AWACS aircraft so close to the front that they are exposed to fire.

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There are already reconnaissance drones for the small-scale reconnaissance. They don’t have the task of coordinating anything, what do you think is why.

RedPanther
2 months ago
Reply to  Hierbinich667

As a military layman, there is no comprehensible reason why the 12 members of the mission could not do their job just as well on the ground.

Orders are constantly threatened. The radio antennas can be picked up and localized; and if the opponent has a clue where he has to look, he will recognize the best camouflaged position sooner or later on satellite images. And if you know the location of a command stand, this is a high-quality target that is worth using some marching missiles. Just with manageable means destroying the complete communication structure of the opponent, the perfect opportunity for an attack.

That’s why you want to set up command stalls so that they can be moved to the speed at any time. This is still possible if technology and, if necessary, even the premises can be loaded onto a few trucks – but the entire facilities that are installed in an E-3 are not even built up to the speed and elsewhere. That’s why it’s better to be installed in a single means of transportation.

In addition, I want to see how you spontaneously, within a few hours, at the other end of the world, establish a grounded leadership. You’re just going on a plane.

By the way: It is not necessary that the radar rotates. You can also work with surface antennas, then the aircraft has to fly in a certain direction.

Hrimthur
2 months ago

Because they haven’t been developed yet…

alaskamusher
2 months ago
Reply to  Hierbinich667

Do you need this Uralt technique with today’s satellite technology?

alaskamusher
2 months ago

oha .. During the 1960s the US Air Force became a successor to theEC-121 ‘Warning Star’searched for a programme for the development of new technologies for an airborne surveillance system in which both Hughes and Westinghouse were working. A jet aircraft was planned as a carrier; so Douglas beat as a baseDC-8-60 and Boeing the 707-320B. The latter was selected with four TF33 engines in July 1970, the two prototypes being equipped with four TF33 (JT3D) engines for comparison testing of the two radar systems. The first flight of the two machines referred to as EC-137D took place on 9 and 10. February 1972 and the following flight trial lasted until September 1972, from which the Westinghouse AN/APY-1Radar emerged as winner. The official development of the new AWACS system as of January 1973 ran under the name E-3A Sentry. The first flight of the first pre-series model took place on 21. July 1975 and it was decided that the series model should only be equipped with four engines. In March 1977, the equipment of the 552nd Airborne Warning and Control Wing in Tinker AFB (Oklahoma) started with the first 22 series machines (designated as a “core” standard) and the two prototypes and the two pre-production machines. In the first half of the 1980s, another eight machines were put into service in an improved “standard” version with AN/APY-2-Radar.[1]

alaskamusher
2 months ago

How old are they?