Storage Server für zu Hause, Selbstbau oder fertige NAS?

Moin,

bisher habe ich immer meinen Storage Server in einem Rechenzentrum in Frankfurt genutzt und nutze diesen auch immer noch.

Leider ist die kostenlose Nutzung nun nach fast 16 Jahren vorbei, da meine Mutter dort aufhört zu arbeiten und die Privilegien damit Enden.

Bis Dato habe ich einen alten Storage Server mit 48 300GB SCSI Platten genutzt. Über die Jahre mussten zwar einige Platten ausgetauscht werden, laufen tut er aber noch immer, leider nicht mein Eigentum 🙁

Wie auch immer, jetzt bin ich auf der Suche nach einer Alternative für zu Hause.

Ich habe an 5 4TB Westen Digital Blue CMR HDDs gedacht. Die kosten liegen bei circa 120 Euro pro Platte.

Allerdings weiß ich noch nicht, was ich für ein Host System nehmen soll.

Lohnt es sich, einen eigenen kleinen Rechner zusammen zu basteln oder doch eine fertige NAS z.B. Synology zu kaufen, allerdings sind finde ich 850 Euro für die Synology DS1522 echt viel. Für eine NAS brauche ich ja keine dicke Hardware, oder sehe ich das falsch?

Wichtig ist doch nur, dass ich einen RAID Controller habe, der RAID5 kann und dann genug Ressourcen für das Betriebssystem.

Ihr könnt mir ja mal eure Empfehlung aussprechen.

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Krabat693
10 months ago

Is it worth making your own small computer together?

Financially, this is definitely worth it even if you are small and chic, zb in a Jonsbo N1 want to build the hardware for self-construction costs you much less than a finished NAS.

I don’t need thick hardware for a NAS, do I see it wrong?

With RAM you can be generous, a quick cache makes writing more pleasant.

For the operating system it can be the cheapest SSD that you can buy (or which is still around)

At the processor … he must manage the RAID and if you want to play with powerful compression to have more of your existing memory, it would like to be a somewhat better processor (i.e. a Ryzen 3/5 or i3/5 instead of Celeron or Pentium)

What is important is that I have a RAID controller that can RAID5

achwas, a simple SATA controller does the job. Each modern Celeron has enough power to manage a RAID5 or a ZFS storage pool. The surcharge for a RAID controller is not necessary.

At least the 14.4 GB I have in the old storage server.

typos? You mean TB?

Apart from that, I would blunt at least the double of what you currently occupy.

verreisterNutzer
10 months ago
Reply to  Krabat693

Of course, typos, I didn’t notice when you wrote that.

So my 5800X3D can only RAID 0, 1 and 10. 5 there is not.

At Intel Ark I find no information about the available RAID levels.

https://www.intel.de/content/www/de/products/sku/134878/intel-celeron-processor-g4930-2m-cache-3-20-ghz/specifications.html

If I were to build a self, I would think of such a thing.

https://geizhals.de/wishlists/3857001

The controller is from Amazon, has good reviews. However, they can also be fake.

zb in aJonsbo N1want to build the hardware for self-construction costs you much less than a finished NAS.

Cool, I’ve never heard of anything before. Looks interesting, I’ll deal with it again.

Krabat693
10 months ago

So my 5800X3D can only RAID 0, 1 and 10. 5 there is no

Software RAID is not a feature of the processor, each processor can have any RAID level. Which ones are available to you is the only thing of the installed operating system. (Software RAID ≠ Wanted Hardware RAID Feature of the motherboard)

The controller is from Amazon, has good reviews

And is also just a SATA controller that can also not be hardware RAID.

Cool, I’ve never heard of anything before. Looks interesting

Did I get into my NAS, too, I’ve changed the list of my NAS sometime:

https://geizhals.de/wishlists/3157880

As an operating system I just got TrueNAS on it.

Krabat693
10 months ago

The hardware RAID you can set in the BIOS is not a real hardware RAID. At the bottom, the work is still at the CPU and you need a proprietary drive driver.

It’s just… crap.

A real hardware RAID requires a correct RAID controller. It then has its own processor which takes care of the data distribution and parity calculation.

By the way, the latter is also the reason why you do not find any mainboards that offer a RAID 5, 6, 50, 60, …. The parity calculation would be remembered in the CPU performance.

verreisterNutzer
10 months ago

Ahh okay, yes then I use a hardware raid from AMD (RAID0) on my computer.

I didn’t know there were differences. I’ve used hardware raids so far.

Thanks for your trouble =)

mchawk777
10 months ago

The question is always what you are willing to spend – and what requirements you have.

The advantage of, for example, Synology or QNAP is that it is significantly more performant than e.g. a Raspi or even router NAS and the manufacturers also take care of the firmware.
For my old QNAP TS 419P+, I still get updates – although this NAS has been out of the market for years and days.

Building a server correctly is, of course, a project that can take you more as an admin in terms of maintenance/updates.

Small self-construction computers can also quickly have a significantly higher power consumption than “right” NAS devices. 🤔

verreisterNutzer
10 months ago
Reply to  mchawk777

I thought about this system if I should build it myself:

https://geizhals.de/wishlists/3857001

The RAID controller can be found on Amazon and has quite good reviews if these are not Fakes 😀

Actually, it should be enough for a NAS and the power consumption should not be too high. I have a similar system running with a Ryzen 3600 and the system, the power consumption is around 20W in the idle and the NAS usually runs in idle.

mchawk777
10 months ago

This shows that you have the necessary know-how to make something yourself.
That’s why nothing is against doing it. 👍

I would then just consider the use of Docker and/or Proxmox.

mchawk777
10 months ago

With Proxmox, I personally didn’t get warm, as I had installed the Raspi version – and only then noticed how little ARM-based images existed.
Basically, you should be able to control any image(!) via remote desktop.

So I moved to Docker/Portainer.
This is enough for my MariaDB, phpmyadmin, Unbound, Pi-Hole, SearXGN and Watchtower.
Guess my Raspi is still bored. Maybe I’ll experiment with Vaultvarden soon. 😅

verreisterNutzer
10 months ago

Proxmox was actually looking at me. But I didn’t think it was nice to make it all through the web interface.

Ademi33
10 months ago

I would equip a PC with the disks, set up Linux server on it and set up an FTP server.

Don’t forget to mirror the plates!

verreisterNutzer
10 months ago
Reply to  Ademi33

That’s why RAID5, so I’ve made the best experience. I had 4x RAID5 on the old server. So 12 devices per RAID controller.