Sockets don't work but fuse is OK?
Hello,
All three sockets in my bedroom no longer work, even though there is no fuse in the box. The reason for this is that one of the three sockets in the bedroom has broken off from the wall and is hanging more or less freely. I wanted to repair it today, but before that the other two broke as well. There is no voltage measurable on any of the three sockets. Now I wanted to ask how this is possible when the fuse for the sockets is still in the distribution box (all the others too). However, there is still a box (see below) attached to one of the three sockets in the bedroom. Is there possibly a fuse in the box?
Thank you!
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At all outlets measure phase against protective conductors (230V), phase against N (230V) and N against protective conductors (0V).
As soon as you measure N against PE a voltage or L against N a higher/lower voltage, it can be an N interruption and this is extremely dangerous.
By the way, freedom of tension in such matters should not be measured with a multimeter! In addition, the usual applies: finger away from “repair” if you are not a specialist.
Thank you. I’m sorry. It’s always at 0V. Nothing goes. Funny only that the fuse does not trigger. What do you mean to measure voltage freedom with multimeters, then?
If at all outlets L there is nothing against PE and L against N, then these cans are presumably connected in parallel and the L is interrupted at the top point of the circuit (on the supply side) or still hangs in the air so that it didn’t cause a short circuit. Can’t.
That may sound stupid for you, but starting from your questions and your approach, I advise you to call an electrician.
Why would the fuse trigger? She’s just doing this with a short circuit or an overload. This is an interruption.
So at the mini box on top of the picture?
There should be no backup in there. It’s just a distributor. But the three sockets can hang together and the broken out could have a cable out and so they’re all not going. Before you do something, take the fuses out.
Thank you. More precisely, I connected my phone to the socket in the picture before, then there was a small flash and then the socket no longer went (like the third one). I did not measure the tension on the first one that has broken away from the wall, so I assume that it still went until then, but yesterday flashes came when I wanted to insert something, so I glued it. So, you think I should just get out of here and check connections?
It can be that two cables touch each other somewhere and then a short circuit occurs in the case of clean plugging from the charger. It’s just weird that the fuse didn’t jump out, because it would have to be electricity. He’s not just leaving. Something’s wrong!
Are you sure about the fuse? You better get all the backup out before you look at it and check it again with a power tester. It’s funny.
That was my first thought.
Yes or in the distribution box. You have to look in there. Normal and modern sockets also have the possibility to connect other sockets.
That should be the one on the picture, right?
Not necessarily. You can also connect them in series. The decisive connection point is then at the first distributor socket.
Thank you! The one socket is more or less loose on the wall because I broke it off when I pulled out a cable xD. Now, of course, I wonder if there’s a cable loose, but if that’s the case, the two other outlets would have to work, right?
Be careful! The 312V should be a display error of device. Try another outlet. If that’s the way I’d buy a new device. Can also be a connection error/free cable in the distributor. There’s something in the fuse. You should try an electrician.
I made the main fuse for all sockets in and back. Then I measured the voltage at all outlets in the apartment. The sockets in the bedroom are at 0V. The others are comical at 312V (can this be at the multimeter? Calibration error? TV, coffee machine etc. all work perfectly). Anyway, I’m surprised the fuse is still in. Apparently, it can’t be a short circuit, can it? Think that maybe a cable is loose. Then turn off electricity in the apartment and plugs and manually search..
There’ll be an interruption somewhere. Should an electrician look at him.
It could be that when the plug-in can is pulled down, the clamps have moved in the branch can on the ground, and thus lead to an interruption.
It’s just a suspicion, but if you all have the fuses, but I don’t know where it could be, that would be a case for an electrician.
If you want to pass on it yourself, you must be 100% sure that the power is switched off, then you can open the branch cans and see if there is anything to be found.
That’s all I’m saying, ’cause it’s just what you think.
Lg, Anna
I’ll go to it tomorrow, I’ve made a pass measurement on N-PE. Apparently a zeroing (still from the GDR). I hope I find something.
Locks fly out in short circuits, not in broken lines. A specialist should fix that.
So if there’s no backup out, does that mean there’s a wobble contact? Does it mean to remove fuse and check all three sockets for wobble contact?
No. Take backup and call electricians.
That would be on your contract, but an upper limit of €100-120 should not exceed that.
https://www.immobilienscout24.de/know/rent/small repair clause.html#anchor4
But electrical work is more likely to be excluded. They are always to be worn by the landlord. He gets the rent.
Is that always? Thought you have to pay for up to 200 euros.
Are you a tenant of the apartment? Then the landlord would be responsible for the repair.
As a tenant, you only have to wear beauty repairs yourself, and the installation is not part of it. Especially since this can only be done by experts.
So I have General Question asked to you, whether a short circuit can occur at the socket without the fuse being released.
You want one Technical responsewithout being able to examine your cabling? Are you a little stupid or something?
Don’t. Honestly, I do not want any teachings here, but a technical answer. I can fight with ChatGPT.
What about your household and health insurance?
Don’t have money for it.