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PeppysGirl
2 years ago

I handle it like this: As long as the RB / PB does not leave the visitor directly on the horse, it does not have to ask. But as soon as the visit acts on the horse, i.e. brushed, sometimes leads etc I would like to be questioned in advance!

Of course, every horse owner has other ideas. So I would rather ask you for security before there is trouble at the end, because for example another adjuster sees you, the owner informs a la “you actually knew that….” and you might lose the PB at the end even because of this. If your friend comes with me as an accompaniment anyway, I don’t know why she should have something about it.

PeppysGirl
2 years ago
Reply to  Clemony

Like I said, I don’t know why she should. This is more about informing them than asking them.

You can also formulate it more like this: “I just wanted to let you know that my friend accompanied me during the walk today. He does not come to the horse, of course, but only runs next to us as I feel more comfortable with it.” or something like that.

BIairwitch
2 years ago

If the horses stand on their ground and ground, you should get permission beforehand, especially if you have nothing else to report than 0815 riders and the seemingly much more not to consider.

Such actions have already cost some of them.

Punkgirl512
2 years ago

No. Not just that – what should the owner have against it? Why should she say no?

Punkgirl512
2 years ago
Reply to  Clemony

You must have come through something the idea why she could say no. Guessing people is not super easy!

Just when you think it could not be like seeing other people, the question whether that’s okay will be much more valuable.

You’ll see if it’s generally okay or you should leave something like that in the future.

And why not – because the owner is now also the Bestimmerin, quite simply. We can’t decide if she’s okay or not.

Punkgirl512
2 years ago

The sentence is more beautifully formulated!

Grauling0605
2 years ago

I think you’re going to get a lot of crazy. As a horse owner you are happy about any info you have about his horse and his activities. A simple “I’ll walk with the horse later and take my friend with me because I feel uncomfortable alone, that’s okay, right? Of course he doesn’t do anything with the horse” won’t get stupid.

Punkgirl512
2 years ago

No, this isn’t stupid, it’s reasonable. So if you ask for a second.

Urlewas
2 years ago

No, no! Going behind the owner of the horse is an absolute NoGo!

If you already have such secret plans, I could understand if she doesn’t want it. So, you can’t really rely on you always treating conscientiously? But if there’s a trusting base, I didn’t know why she should have something about it.
But if what happens (how easy is a toe broken, for example, when a horse gets on it!) you come in devil’s kitchen.

Urlewas
2 years ago
Reply to  Clemony

You don’t really understand me. Even the idea “don’t ask dear ones because they could say no” seems to be a little inaccurate. You are quite aware that you should actually ask, and that is actually self-evident. So a reliable person does this simply, and does not come up with the idea of concealing something to the owner.

Urlewas
3 months ago

Then it’s still good to have it cleared. The best horse doesn’t use anything if the environment doesn’t fit.

Kisajelo
2 years ago

No, no.

Why should the owner say no? And if it will have a reason, it will ultimately be their decision.

Why should you risk your relationship is more the question.

If I could just get someone to be brought with me without that being acquitted in any way, I would be extremely annoyed as a horse owner.

Kisajelo
2 years ago
Reply to  Clemony

I’ve already read this and you’ve also got answers to this comment. There’s no one on your side. Being behind the back of the horse owners is a No Go.

Kisajelo
3 months ago

OKAY

Kisajelo
2 years ago

Very good, hope she throws you out (:

Keks37
2 years ago

What does it say to ask? I don’t have RB or PB for my horse, but it’s moving from time to time by a friend. I trust her in every way. Even if her boyfriend’s in the stable I’ve met personally, I wouldn’t have any concerns if he, without asking me before, stroked my horse. ABER: I think I would mind if she left someone else with my horse unquestioned! And if it’s her friend. The person may stroke my horse from me, but already give it to the small tube, I would like to be asked for permission. Because if there’s anything happening, and I didn’t know that a wild person had to do with my horse, I’m the one who’s pulled to the Räson afterwards!

Therefore: inform the owner that you want to bring someone, and ask if that’s okay. If she says no, you have to accept that.

Grauling0605
2 years ago
Reply to  Clemony

Because the possibility exists that she says no, do you prefer not to ask, although it is very unlikely that she says no? And if she didn’t want to, what would it look like if you were just doing anyway?

I just didn’t ask about this because I went out of a self-evident yes. If you have any doubt, please ask.

And if she says no, you won’t walk if you don’t trust yourself. But I still can’t imagine someone saying no.

Keks37
2 years ago
Reply to  Clemony

Then I’d tell her that you feel more comfortable when he comes. The owner has more understanding of it than if you make it secret. This is also relevant in terms of insurance.

Keks37
2 years ago

Don’t say that. It’s enough if he’s standing next to him, he’s scrambling the horse and catching him when he leaves. It almost happened to me. A strange girl stood at the coupling when I got my wallach. She has stroked him without me getting it on the flank (I was standing with my back to her to hang the fence). I came against the electric fence and got a blow, my horse was shocked and she just said, What was that? He almost kicked me!

That’s why you don’t stand behind a horse and keep a distance. In addition, you ask the owner if you can stroke the horse. It could have been that he’d grabbed a fly and caught her fingers. But she asked if she could hold him, and I said yes. That’s all.

Grauling0605
2 years ago

What do you want to take him?

If the horse is in a “normal” stable where visitors are welcome, and you just want to let him look, I’d just take him, I’ve also done with my previous RB.

If you want him to do something on the horse, of course you have to ask.

Urlewas
2 years ago
Reply to  Clemony

What do you mean, “close”? Besides the usual questions, why not sit on the horse, nobody usually says what?

Grauling0605
2 years ago
Reply to  Clemony

In such cases, I’ve always handled it so that I just took him without asking. If you can get out without accompaniment.

I don’t know what to say.

Urlewas
2 years ago

You can’t know if there’s something else here. Because you haven’t told us so far. Keeping information back seems to be your habit. And then you’re wondering if you don’t understand. That’s harder you can say. And you can also explain this to the owner. If you live there in such an ambiguous environment, she won’t mind taking your bodyguard.
And here of us no one had anything to do with it – only against this lack of openness we have something. Think about it – we don’t know you. So how should something be against you? Almost everyone here answers questions with the motivation to help others. But some people make it hard. Maybe you should just leave it. You just waste your time with meaningless discussions.

SuperB18
2 years ago

I’m a horse owner and would like to be asked if someone else is there. If your friend is going to take a look and take pictures, hold or sweep the horse, that’s all right. But if he’s supposed to do the box, feed or saddle, I’d mind. Because there I have certain ideas that I have agreed with my RB and which then please only do this person.

MaryLynn87
2 years ago

That’s what you’re thinking and how you’re generally handled in the stable. With us it would not be a problem as long as the friend does not even go to the horse, but only look at you.

But there are also stables where strangers are generally not happy to see.

So ask better. Then you are on the safe side

MaryLynn87
2 years ago
Reply to  Clemony

Gives the owner and then to your friend a crash course in horse safety (so where he should not stand and where the horse cannot see him).

Hjalti
2 years ago

Because what’s going to happen?

Well, you know, karma and so… sometimes really stupid things happen. Besides, I’d be stinky as Besi if you were acting behind my back. Someone sees you or comes straight there the Besi itself around the corner.

Just ask and if she doesn’t, she says no. Her horse, her rules.

pony
2 years ago

Ask beforehand if you intend to take others to the horse.

it’s coming out anyway.

pony
2 years ago
Reply to  Clemony

that’s uninteresting.

you ask.

and as I said – it comes out IMMER.

I would be mad as a horse owner at any rate to be passed over.

Keks37
2 years ago

Just give it up, she doesn’t want to understand…

Urlewas
2 years ago

If you care about homelines in front of the owner, you’ll ruin it yourself.

Keks37
2 years ago

Where is the problem when she says no? Do you want to get a big shot if you get a strange person to the horse? And there it doesn’t matter if the person is just – sorry – stupid. If something happens, you’re guilty and the owners are liable! It shouldn’t be a problem to just start the owner for a moment, to tell her the situation and to ask her if it’s okay for her. And if she says yes, everything is great! If she says no, she says no. Point. Out. There is nothing to discuss and then you have to accept it. After all, you have a contract with the owner, in which exactly what you can and what is not (and if only by hand). You pay YOUR money for lovingly taking care of the animal if she can’t.

But what am I talking about? Here are all horse professionals and have much more idea than you seem to have. Let it be said to you by horse owners: You don’t do anything unquestioned! Absolutely no matter how these things look, and if it’s just that you take a strange person.

But, just keep quiet with your defensive and pampering opinion. We just want to help you here and gave you real and polite answers. The only one who doesn’t want to understand is you alone.

Grauling0605
2 years ago

Then don’t walk. If she says no, she’d be mad if you don’t ask