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TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

Vapes are from 95%-98% less harmful than cigarettes.

Vapes:

No tar

No combustion

No tobacco

No more than 70 carcinogenic substances

(Is suspicion not to be carcinogenic)

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago
Reply to  08Alec

Attention! It’s not healthy anyway. strokes, heart attacks, can trigger it anyway. Only when nicotine is included.

Besides, so you know about it. Some claims Vapes are a carcinogenic. This is based on the superstition which is formed when the liquid (propylene glycol) formaldehyde is evaporated. That would be a cancer. However, the liquid is not burned and therefore the temperature is too low to cause formaldehyde.

Perhaps a typing error in the subject words

However, one cannot say with certainty whether it is cancerous.

This also applies only to EU legal products. If you vape RandM, everything can be in it and thus be cancer-causing.

There are also 100% other substances in it. The steam is cool. Steam from Elfbar or multiway is neutral to warm.

sunnymarie32
9 months ago

What you notice and what actually happens does not have to be the same and does not necessarily have the same causes.

Even with conviction, what the (probably) believes does not have to be so long. There are people who are convinced that the Earth is a disk…

No, so it’s not harmful. In the respective potentials of damage, there has been a purely ALL calculation that could happen theoretically and that cannot be excluded to 100%. Among other things, a lukewarm scratch in the neck, which calls no one serious damage and also things that are so unlikely that the steams in the 20 years now could not be detected worldwide.

Why steam from 18? This decision is based on pure lobbyism and not on any potential damage. In 2014, when one started planning the amendment of the Youth Protection Act, one did not know so much about steaming and the steam started right through as a tipping replacement and stoppage aid for smokers and caused high losses to the pharmaceutical and health industry

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

What I wanted to ask. Why is Vapen from 18 when the government is aware that it is harmless? I can get my sugar dangerous, has no age limit. Just like salmon gas(even if it is not used and is intended for anything else)

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

“Who says she is?! Is this medically proven?” – It doesn’t have to be proven. I can see that!

“Every guy with 17 is still in the…” voice, my statement wasn’t right.

“yes… I could… but not today” -No problem.

“Who guarantees that this does not have other causes and meets only ZUFÄLLIG with the Vapen?” – I don’t know, the videos are only 30 seconds to 1 minute. However, they would not say that if they were not convinced.

They say vaping is 95-98% less harmful than tilting. But there are still at least 2%. So it’s harmful.

sunnymarie32
9 months ago

In Belgium smoking and vapors are allowed from 16 onwards. Why don’t you make a study? – because it doesn’t have a MOREWERT… why spend money on a study if minor consumers are an absolute minority?

That’s why I think that a 17-year-old body reacts to every poison 1-1 as a 18,19 and 20-year-old body– jein… with 17 guys are still in development… with 20 or 21… this is up to about 25. There’s something going on with girls. At the age of 18, people are admitted to a REIFE which allows them to make their own rational decisions.

Could you send the 2 links of studies to show the vape is safe? – Yeah, I could… but not today.

And suddenly my lungs are to be less powerful? Who says she is?! Is that medically proven?

In addition, there are countless videos where people with bleeding gums, cliche breath or lugen problems say that it has been there since they vape. That’s not fake, please. – you can tell a lot when the day is long, whether it’s true on another sheet. And even if this should really be true in a few cases – who guarantees that this does not have other causes and meets only ZUFÄLLIG with the Vapen?!

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

“Always banned in the civilized world and no one would get the OK for studies on minors.” In Belgium smoking and vapors are allowed from 16 onwards. Why don’t you make a study?

In addition, all year roundness is invented by people. That’s why I think that a 17-year-old body reacts to every poison 1-1 as a 18,19 and 20-year-old body.

“no… long not everyone, only those, the UNKRITISCH and without their own knowledge, who are looking after it” Could you send the 2 links of studies that are supposed to show the vape is harmless?

“And not only your lung is unchanged through steaming, your whole body has not suffered under it.” In my life nothing has changed except that. Eat as before, make sports as before. And suddenly my lungs are to be less powerful?

In addition, there are countless videos where people with bleeding gums, cliche breath or lugen problems say that it has been there since they vape. That’s not fake, please.

sunnymarie32
9 months ago

Every ardent every professor tells you the vape is unhealthy Not everyone, only those, the UNCRITISCH, and without their own knowledge, do what they think. Whoever really deals with it and knows how to radio E-cigarettes and how to use them, does not tell you that nonsense.

And don’t fuck me up with “You’re a minor there can be a shame, there are no studies of the smoker lobby” – the RAUCHERLOBBY does not make any studies of steaming… but there are actually no scientifically stable evidence of how steam affects minors in development, because underages are banned almost everywhere in the civilized world and no one would get the OK for studies on minors.

This 1 year, my lungs will not change. – it’s not gonna be, and it certainly doesn’t. And not only your lung is unchanged through steaming, your whole body has not suffered under it.

People in e.g. Chinese big cities wear breathing masks or die earlier because the air is so dirty– Exactly… because of the interlocking of air with various pollutants… Where there is no harmful pest, nothing negative happens!

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

Very good. I’m getting older. You can’t tell me that comes from old.

And I don’t do less training.

“yes and? Just because two things come together, it doesn’t mean that one triggers the other.”

What a cheap excuse. Every doctor tells you this is unhealthy.

And don’t fuck me up with “You’re a minor there can be a shame, there are no studies of the smoker lobby”

This 1 year, my lungs will not change.

“Sorry, but that’s SCHWACHSINN! Do you seriously believe that beings with lungs would have survived sooo long and developed if everything out of the air were harmful?!”

People in e.g. Chinese capitals carry breathing masks or die earlier because the air is so dirty. Tell me what’s not harmful and you can breathe apart from oxygen.

sunnymarie32
9 months ago

All that is not air and comes into the lung is harmful. Sorry, but that’s SCHWACHSINN! Do you seriously think that beings with lungs would have survived sooo long and developed if everything out of the air were harmful?!

I Vape is only 1 year and endurance sports are harderSo what? Just because two things come together, it doesn’t mean that one triggers the other.

What else should it come from if it’s not the vape? – You’re getting older, you might drink less… what I know…

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

“I don’t say that, I know that.” – It can’t be neutral. All that is not air and comes into the lung is harmful.

I’m just Vape 1 year and endurance sports are harder for me. What else should it come from if it’s not the vape? Before that everything was normal.

sunnymarie32
9 months ago

So you say Vapes are not harmful but neutral? – I don’t say that, I know.

But the effect is not so strong. – comes to the dose… a lot of “cooling agent” = more cold feeling….

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

But the effect is not so strong.

“No, it can’t… not MIT or OHNE nicotine.” So you say Vapes are not harmful but neutral?

sunnymarie32
9 months ago

strokes, heart attacks, can trigger it anyway. Only when nicotine is included. .- no, it can’t… not WITH and neither OHNE nicotine.

There are also 100% other substances in it. The steam is cool. Steam from Elfbar or multiway is neutral to warm. – if the steam feels cool, then there is Koolada in (WS23) – an aroma additive that ensures a cold effect without affecting Menthol’s taste… also Elfbars & Co are often available as “Ice”…

Xandros0506
9 months ago

Bin m15

and therefore have nothing to do with tobacco products.

of course both are harmful that I also know

The fact that tobacco cigarettes cannot be harmless by the pollutants produced during combustion is explained by themselves.
What exactly should the E-cigarette be so harmful if there is no combustion at all and the pollutants that are produced during combustion are not present at all? The vapours that are generated and also arise during cooking/baking?

orangade
9 months ago

Smoking (burning) is more harmful to health than steam after the current state of knowledge.

orangade
9 months ago
Reply to  08Alec

Nicotine in Vapes is harmful.

sunnymarie32
9 months ago

The damage caused by nicotine is the same! – it’s true…

Nicotine narrows the blood vessels. – yes, TEMPORÄR (For MINUTEN!) and completely reversible and also ONLY the PERIPHEREN vessels. NOT OTHER OTHER happens, for example, in a cold shower and hair-precise the same effect is so healthy that it is paid in the course of a Kneipp course of health insurance companies!

This makes the body poorer supplied with nutrients and oxygen– No, that has no influence on it

This is bad for the skin, growth and immune system– Bullshit! What’s the next thing you can put on the nicotine?

I’d leave! – You better let it go all the time.

sunnymarie32
9 months ago

Bullshit! When do you stop scattering your lies everywhere?

orangade
9 months ago

Cigarettes are more harmful because of combustion.

The damage caused by nicotine is the same! Nicotine narrows the blood vessels. This makes the body poorer supplied with nutrients and oxygen. This is bad for the skin, growth and immune system. I’d leave!

nogha
9 months ago

Just leave both and do not follow blind any trends behind.

Don’t start with it so you don’t only save time even money and doctor visits.

nogha
9 months ago
Reply to  08Alec

All that is not air is naturally harmful. It’s logical.

Nervnicht56
9 months ago

Yes, Vape has harmful substances

Nervnicht56
9 months ago
Reply to  08Alec

Yeah.

Xandros0506
9 months ago
Reply to  Nervnicht56

Vape has harmful substances

which are also included in your foods, hygiene and cosmetic products, as well as medicines, so you can contact them every day.

Look at EU policies that need to comply with a liquid so that it can be admitted at all within the EU. And then this quark burst out of your memory.

Food flavours, propylene glycol and glycerol are not harmful, but are even considered safe at ECHA.

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago
Reply to  Nervnicht56

Then tell them. And above all that makes them more harmful than the cigarette with more than 70 confirmed carcinogens.

Nervnicht56
9 months ago

Gerne 😉

Benito0330
9 months ago

Both are harmful. The cigarette has more harmful substances because it burns at higher temperatures while the vapor evaporates. The e-cigarette is again heated.

Benito0330
9 months ago
Reply to  08Alec

No, because they are harmful to health. It wouldn’t be right to say they were better.

sunnymarie32
9 months ago
Reply to  Benito0330

while the vapor evaporates. The e-cigarette is again heated. Huh?? Can it be that you have NULL plan of the subject?! Why else are you writing such a bullshit here?

If you had the choice of dying through a shot in the head or a knife stab in the heart, there is nothing that is “better”. – we’re not talking about “head shot” or “knife” here, but about “head shot” (cigarette) and, at least, a mosquito bite (e-cigarettes/vaps) !

The evaporator has fewer pollutants. – No, he didn’t…. is made of metal, glass/plastic and wick material and has GARKEINE

ABER: He still has pollutants – if you mean the steam: NO, does not, because the use of defective substances in the liqudi is prohibited, and in NORMALER use, no harmful substances are formed which there is no chemical change in the starting materials.

Saying he’s better is a nice speech– No, it’s simple and simple just the WAHRHEIT

Besides, it can be misunderstood and suddenly people think he’s healthy. – For RAUCHER it’s also… and for non-smoking adults it’s at least harmless.

But of course he is not. – and why? Because you think that even though you don’t know anything about e-cigarettes, and you’re just fooling what you’re getting up somewhere?

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

Your comparison doesn’t fit.

It means dying with 59 or with 79.

“less pollutants” Exactly and that makes it better than smoking.

“To say he is better, is a nice speech” No, that’s a logical conclusion.

Benito0330
9 months ago

Not at all. If you had the choice of dying through a shot in the head or a knife stab in the heart, there is nothing that is “better”. The evaporator has fewer pollutants. ABER: He still has pollutants. Saying he’s better is a nice speech. Besides, it can be misunderstood and suddenly people think he’s healthy. That’s what happened. But of course he is not.

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

But better

Benito0330
9 months ago

That’s correct. They are also harmful to health.

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

Well, yes. He asked if Vapes were better and you said, “It wouldn’t be right to say they were better.”

Benito0330
9 months ago

Luckily, I didn’t say that.

TwizzyOnX
9 months ago

But that would be. Who says cigarettes are the same or less harmful should sometimes be annoyed.