Sind Fahrschulen in Deutschland Abzocke?
Habe meinen Führerschein glücklicherweise, billiger wirds nämlich nicht.
Hier mal die Aufstaffelung der Kosten eines Führerscheins bei den Fahrschulen in meiner Nähe (Durchschnitt):
Anmeldung für die Fahrschule (App) 400€
Anmeldung für die Theorieprüfung 100€
Anmeldung für die Praxisprüfung 225€
45 Min Fahrstunde 60€
45 Min Sonderfahrt 70€
+ TÜV Gebühren
Finde schon, dass es Abzocke ist. Die können einem doch nicht erzählen, dass die Anmeldegebühren irgendeinen Aufwand für die stellen, die tragen einen nur in einem Programm ein und kassieren dafür 400/225/100€.
Wie sind die Preise bei euch, ähnlich?
Zusätzlich gibt es viele schwarze Schafe bei den Fahrschulen, oft sind die Fahrlehrer am Handy oder besorgen Einkäufe während den Stunden – eine Beschwerde bringt da nichts. So kommen dann nicht selten über 40 Fahrstunden zusammen.
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Just a private model of training.
With us in D and Ö only compulsory schools are covered by taxes. That you have to pay everything else is quite normal in later life.
The driving school is, for example, not more expensive than a welding course or Linzenzen, such as the steam boiler or turbine heater, as nevertheless show a greater mass of students interest.
So this could also cost many of it.
That you are pampered by our school system and have learnt to live about half of salary as people who are not so massively extorted by taxes on schools and health (but for that, even the means for credit and insurance have to be applied) does not make private schools a waste. However, as a result of the burden and current inflation, it is a challenge.
by the control decked?
No, this isn’t an absentee and actually too cheap.
In the registration fee, all theory lessons are also included. Or do you think the driving instructor does it for free. The premises and the teaching material must also be paid.
45 minutes drive hour for 60 or 70 €?
On average, this should be at least one hour of working time for the instructor. However, the driving school vehicle, the petrol etc. must also be paid.
There is no longer much left for the driving instructor or the driving school. I wouldn’t work for the hour wage.
Is the time for the driving instructor and the car still included in the registration for the practical examination? You don’t think it’s costing?
And otherwise it’s like everywhere, a mixed calculation. Office power also wants to be paid, etc.
And the last paragraph is excessive and not serious.
Thanks for the assessment.
The last paragraph isn’t exaggerated, I don’t know when you took your license. Many driving schools do not allow students with less than 30 driving hours to check.
You might want to know before you give me something.
However, the many students need at least 30 h is not due to the fact that all instructors are constantly on the phone and make purchases during the paid driving hours.
I referred with my criticism less to the number of hours you have given in the question with 40 than to the submission that the many hours come together by the driving instructors doing other things during the driving hours.
And yes, the pupils need more hours today than before, and the breakdown rates in the driving tests have also increased in contrast to earlier.
This was also examined and the reasons are well known.
One of the reasons is, of course, that road traffic has increased more and more and that it has become more aggressive on roads. Thus, it simply takes a little longer until you can move safely.
And also the number of special trips and the things you have to be able to check have increased. “Control before departure” or so there was not yet in my driving test. On the other hand, these things have not been included in the examination without reason. And since such a thing has to be practiced, naturally the required driving hours also increase.
Then, however, it comes to the fact that the riders have become clearly “bad”. Today, they bring much lesser knowledge of road traffic and behaviour in road transport. And this has also been studied very easily: On the one hand, today’s riders have significantly fewer experience with active transport participation.
I admit, I’m a little older. At my time there was only one car in most households and the children were not driven anywhere. I’ve been driving all over the bike. And it’s been at least since my 10. Year of life of active road users. Of course I learned a lot. It’s missing when you’re almost going anywhere by car.
Then we had no smartphone or anything. If we drove with a parent in the car, then nothing else remained to watch us as a father or mother while driving a car and concentrate on the surrounding road. With this passive variance, we have learned a lot unconsciously.
Many young people are still sitting with their parents in the car and looking at their smartphone all the time. They get away from the road and how to move in it nothing more.
And for reasons, it takes longer today until the riders find themselves in the traffic.
You seem to be disturbing me at the post “Register for Examination”?
This is part of a mixed calculation. In contrast, there are driving schools involved in a merciless competition, each rider looks after the cheapest driving school and that is simply a competition that you can win nihct.
Then the basic fee will be lowered and the driving hours will be reduced and the whole thing will be taken back in via this item.
But the trick is ancient, there are also in every China restaurant where you can hit the magne full for 9 Euros at the buffet, but then every drink with 4 Euro is on the bill.
In addition to the administrative fees for registration for the purchase of a driving licence, the basic fee then also finances the personnel for the assistance of the aspirants, as well as the basic provision of the establishment, including all the maintenance costs.
In the past, you also had printed training material for theory, which may be part-financed in an “app” in a manner analogous to running royalties.
In the case of driving hours, it is the gross operating costs (including employer shares etc.) for the driving personnel, as well as insurance, operating costs and “depreciation costs” for the driving school vehicle.
In the case of the tests, the authorities shall also keep their hands on the application, a test room must be placed, and the examiner shall not work on a voluntary basis.
This is the result of considerable sums already in Germany.
I’ll sign this, I just don’t understand why a driving school will take 100/225 for the registration for testing. Finally, the student must additionally print your fees to the TÜV, each about 100€.
Because a driving school is not a non-profit association that makes it fun. They provide a service and want to generate profit. Or why do you think you cost a craftsmanship between 60 and 90 € plus. VAT?
With us in DE, the TÜV for theory actually takes only slightly below 25 and practice depending on the FE class iwo between 120 and 180 euros in fees.
Is possible at least in theory. a little happy when the driving school does not see a “ring service” to the test site with included .
In practice, however, the driving school must also place a vehicle including the driving instructor, and thus there are also similar costs as in a regular driving hour with the top.
No, I think it’s perfectly okay for a reasonable driving school. I would also like the driving schools to work reasonably and to pay the employees a fair salary and I would like to finally get a reasonable training. If at the end is a mixed calculation, instead of higher registration fees, you can also make the driving hours more expensive. In the end, only the total number counts.
There are black sheep in all industries. There are also really very good driving schools in return. It is at the end of each person to inform or change.
I was in my life in two different driving schools, car and motorcycle driving licence and both driving schools were really great and worth every cent. but have also informed me what I choose and not looked at the price.
Summary of the price-performance ratio of driving schools in Mannheim (fahrschul-preisvergleich.de)
For comparison I didn’t make a 1500 bearers incl. a 2nd practical examination
I find the prices okay.
When I did my FS three years ago, the costs were like that.
There’s nix rips. Know my driving instructor very well and he explained it plausible at the time. Thought the costs would be higher.
Registration fees – so you also pay the participation in theoretical teaching.
Registration for the driving school (App) 400€
Here, fixed costs are calculated which occur with each new rider. Accounting, but also administrative staff costs, etc.
Registration for the theoretical examination 100€
it must also be agreed to the appointment, which also takes a little time. On the one hand, after the actual driving hour, you will discuss with the driving instructor and also with regard to appointment, after the driving hour takes place. Working hours must be paid
Registration for practical examination 225€
45 min drive hour 60€
I don’t find expensive, as more independent it is not unusual to pay 1-1,5€/minute, the car must be paid in addition. Price ok
45 min Special trip 70€
+ TÜV fees
“It must also be agreed to the appointment, which also takes a little time. On the one hand, after the actual driving hour, you will discuss with the driving instructor and also with regard to appointment, after the driving hour takes place. Working hours must be paid”
That’s not true. The questions one whether or not the date for the theoretical examination is correct, there is nothing to negotiate. The dates for the next hour of driving will be given within the hour of driving, in a double hour of 90 minutes you will drive just under 75 minutes. The rest is set mirror, 5 min break in between and make the appointment.
Ok then it changed at that time
My prices were a little lower, I’ve had the Lappen for 25 years.
Except for the 225,–€ for the practical application, I find that fair!
My driving instructor was home for a single time. Otherwise everything was dead.
Insurances, wages, rent for rooms, vehicles etc. must be paid. And since the costs are rising everywhere, they have to pass this on to customers too
So I’m pretty expensive.
With me the app came 40€, the driving hours about 1€ per minute.
I paid nearly 2,000 DM for the driver’s license. With everything and on.
Your numbers sound brutally expensive, but I think that’s what’s going on.
So ~2-2500€ is normal today
With 2,500€ you don’t get there, driving schools leave you with less than 30 hours to check.
You have to think well, no question
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Only as a cause of thought;)
That’s right, I’ll have that lapel a year.
Now I start a dual study from September and ask myself if I buy a car for it. Financially, it would be easy, but I do not know if I am willing to spend several hundred euros per month. I think I’m going to buy the extra time and take the ÖPNV.
Well, what should I say? the German driver is and remains “the Melkkuh of the nation”
The special rides alone (compulsory) are already 12 pieces, which means at least 840€. You can’t make a special trip in the first hour of the ride, or would you like to take a newbie over the highway at 160? xD
There it takes 8-10 until the pupil gets a better feeling for traffic and more before making the special trips.
I had a total of 28 hours and was still very well involved in the acquaintance circle, and it was both the first time. Friends had 30-60, everything was there.
WOW not bad…
30 hours. I didn’t have half
But I know. Depending on the driving school at my time and the “doofen hire” on the part of the student, 50 hours and more went on
When my brother has not been notified to the test after 20 hours, I drove to the VÜP and then told him to take his driving school, who then registered him at “own risk” and see there… in the first run. Sometimes you have to make a lot of pressure. Will not be much different today
Fair prices! Don’t look at “abscocks”… 🙂
Yes, unfortunately, is a necessary evil.
All right.
I always wonder how the driving hours can offer for 60 €.
Right. As a self-employed person only 60 € for the hour, where then the costs for vehicle, petrol, insurance, etc. will also expire. There’s hardly anything left.
I’m sure you’re gonna rip it off. I paid about 1000,- DM, that’s about 500,- €.
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I guess there’s one of the last decades sleeping.
Yes, about 40 years ago.
the 1000 DM from earlier are converted to today’s value also approx. 1000 €
Look everywhere.
e.g. I used to pay 20 schilling at the cardrom on the market – after conversion to the euro it was 2 € (=24 schilling). now you pay 3 € for = 42 schilling = double the schilling price
or other example with larger amounts.
in my childhood, a house was issued in quiz shows by 1 million schilling as a profit. That was a nice house.. These are only approx. 70.000 € – for that you don’t get a house anymore… pay around the 500,000 €= about7 million schilling for it (good that I don’t normally change anymore;-)
it will also be similar with DM and euro. I doubt that everything has remained equally favorable in Germany.
Absolutely, my father paid 50 DM for trucks.