Sick note due to lost or broken glasses?
Hello,
I have a somewhat strange question: What happens if my glasses break or I lose them? Can I take sick leave?
I have weak eyesight—one eye -7, the other -8.5. Both eyes also have severe astigmatism. Therefore, I need special lenses. Until now, I've always waited two weeks for new glasses. Contact lenses are out of the question; I'm not allowed to wear them.
Can anyone give me some information?
Replacement glasses are not available due to the high cost.
Thank you!
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Inability to work is also given if the worker is prevented from performing his specific work performance due to a defect in a technical aid (tooth prosthesis, glasses, leg prosthesis).
if someone breaks the prosthesis, he can still work. Depends on what he does, public transport is really bad but clean, on the band or so is feasible….
always depends on what you do.
My values in the sphere are about three times yours and I naturally own a replacement glasses. Their glasses are much more expensive than the price you have called as an exclusion for buying a second glasses.
What allegedly drives the price to your glasses is not to be read in concrete terms elsewhere, so I assume that there are already possibilities for cheaper ones, but you simply don't want to get you a replacement glasses. With this avoidable effort for the employer as well as health insurance, it seems absolutely not justified to me, even if it should be described as practical somewhere in a rule.
So I find 350€ only for glasses not cheap 🤷. And that's the best I can buy. I even have a medical certificate for glasses with surcharge, but it is not enough. I have a share of about 350€ + frame. The checkout takes me about 130€ per glass. Maybe they have more money than me. It's too expensive.
You always write that your glasses cost €350, but don't lose a word about what they are. I am more short-sighted than you, so I also get the fixed amount as a grant from the health insurance company and unfortunately must invest at least once a year in new spectacle lenses. The price you wrote to your eyeglasses is certainly what with index 1.67 or 1.74 – this high index makes the whole thing very expensive, but for a replacement eyeglasses it is easier material (1.5 or 1.6), which is much cheaper. If this is too expensive for you, I wonder what would be talking about wearing older glasses, if necessary, until your new one would be ready to pick up. This is, by the way, the variant I use as an emergency reserve because I currently don't have much money available as a student and would drive my regular vision changes to the financial ruin if I would constantly buy two glasses with high-index glasses in current strength.
I mean, I've been trying to understand why you seem to have no alternative to your glasses at all. Will you throw your previous glasses into the tone as soon as you have a new one or why can't these glasses be worn as a replacement if necessary?
By the way, one and a half years ago, I was in the situation that my glasses came off while I had to be operated unplanned for an injury. I came to the room from the surgery and what wasn't there was my glasses + my AirPods (both never showed up anymore). After that, I used to wear my older glasses. It works for a few days instead of submitting a medical report.
I don't think it's justified to get sick because of defective or worn glasses.
The most common solution with which you can easily avoid this as a spectacle wearer is a replacement spectacle. If you don't, it's self-indebted if you're not working or only workable to a limited extent.
In comments you came up with the argument that a replacement glasses is too expensive for you. But if you take a low quality glasses for this purpose, it is not expensive, so a reasonable investment. In some countries, as a driver, you are even obliged to carry a replacement glasses.
If you're not ready to spend money on a glasses as a reserve, you could still use your previous one until you have a new one. This is also a practical solution for emergencies.
Why? Because of your short-sightedness, this is not a particularly high area for which there would be no spectacle lenses adjustable from the normal range.
If you cannot or do not want to take advantage of any chances to avoid a failure in the event of loss of your glasses, you will be able to get a vacation in the case of the cases. That would be a fair solution.
Under 350€ for the glasses, despite medical certificate, I do not come from the store + sum XX for the frame. If I hadn't had a certificate, it would be a lot more.
I've already spoken to my ophthalmologist. AU's close to me. My AG has no objection. The question is therefore answered. But I accept every opinion.
Why don't you answer a question about the reason for expensive glasses? Why don't you take a look at the thing you don't want to buy replacement glasses?
That's what I'm asking…. I have a corneal curvature that is strong. Why the glasses are so expensive, you don't have to ask the optician. I don't understand your problem.
If you only have one pair of shoes and break them, you can't let them write you sick.
Bought at a store? The long delivery time can hardly be explained otherwise.
I don't know, but it's always been 2 weeks. Never bothered me and I didn't ask.
I don't see anything special on your glass thicknesses (you didn't call the Cylinder values) you'd get something like that within a few days.
Above all, you should put a replacement glasses.
Even for a few days, I wouldn't be able to work. So, or so was the question of the right to an AU and I could now clarify. Maybe I should actually reconsider my optician choice…
Well, if you know Doc Holliday he writes you sick too. But it's not okay.
As a boss, I'd ask what's exactly with the glasses…can you stick them or use them to do his job? And then I would very close you to putting a replacement glasses before it happens again
But talk to your boss and explain the situation to him. Talking is better than just getting sick
it means an incapacity certificate and not an invalid notification. That is why it is possible.
I did not write that it is impossible….think but rather (and that is my opinion) the questioner would like a few days vacation….if I need such a special glasses I have a replacement….nobody knows what the questioner is working…the question here he could also stop….comely
ok, that's true….it was only a colleague who had taken such an action and I was allowed to do overtime while she was "workless" on the fan mile
here someone asks for facts and not for opinions.
it is also a theoretical question and not an acute situation.
I don't see any reason for a medical prescription – if you don't have replacement glasses, it's your private problem, not that of your employer and with a disease, a misunderstanding has nothing to do.
Why is that?
I asked Aunt google and found this one
https://www.g-ba.de/downloads/62-492-3374/AU-RL_2023-12-07_iK-2024-02-21.pdf
Whether and how far this applies to glasses without which you are probably not to be used in the weakening of vision at work would be to clarify with the doctor in case of doubt.
However, there is a certain obligation to take care of his employer and if there is no substitute glasses, I do not think that is fulfilled.
Shoes, pants,… you can expect multiple versions.
Medical aids such as spectacles, wheelchairs, crutches, proteses,… rather not.
As said, the doctor can already assess how work-preventing is the visual weakness without or with outdated correction aid.
The questioner seems to be blind as a mole at the values, because also ne completely outdated glasses does not help if they should exist. Probably the face of the opposite looks sharp at -7 or -8.
Why do you focus on the diopter numbers of your short-sightedness when the corneal curvature is supposed to be the expensive ones on the glasses? You just write that they are very strong but don't give numbers. How do you understand that you can't buy cheap glasses?
You just call numbers to the spherical values and make a secret out of the cylinder that makes the whole thing expensive. So I'm interested in asking for the numbers you obviously don't want to betray 🤷🏼 ♀️
I have a very strong corneal curvature and spectacle lenses must therefore be ground accordingly. Then why this is so expensive, you have to ask an optician, not me.
Don't tell me why it can't lie to your -7/-8 diopters.
This can be, but I can't pay as loosely as 600€ or so for a glasses..and inexpensive glasses I don't get🤷.
It's nothing special, and it's no different to me. Just like my husband, for whom it is even more expensive and also our offspring is not only slightly short-sighted, also has high index glasses. Nevertheless, each of us has a replacement glasses with low-price glasses and no-name fiber.
Why not?
Unfortunately, I cannot use a replacement glasses with "simple" glasses. Last leg I had a surcharge of almost 350€ for the glasses + XX€ for the frame, despite medical certificate…. Without an attest, it would have been a lot more….
Sorry, but the argument of the "cost of generality" cannot be brought here… Also I pay enough into the KK and don't use it because I'm sick as well as never or AU written… And therefore neither the KK nor "the generality". The one or two weeks with inability to work will certainly be covered by my deposits very, very well….
Then it makes the less sense that you still write your opinion here with an answer that has nothing to do with the opinion on the subject.
But if you want, I can still complete your answer to the source and the quote. Then the full size is also visible.
My own answer is obvious.
It's just coming over as a complaint if you do.
A separate answer as applicable.
Yes you may, but I think you shouldn't be because…
If necessary, there would be a better option because you have no relation to my answer in terms of content, but you are concerned about the subject. This is more visible than in a comment.
Well, I don't want to write anything more about just one more thing:
It should generally not be a complaint addressed to you or others, but was only intended as a comment on what I had written before.
The point that one sees something different than the rule can fill books.
If it were after me, no cash would take over Globuli.
And as I said, there is no compulsion, also gives people the sniffing and fever to work because medical reports are not compatible with their own moral feeling. People are different.
If it interferes with you, there is certainly the option to make a request to adjust the formulation here, for example to exclude certain aids. If enough people agree with public pressure, something will change. If that doesn't see enough people as you may not change anything.
However, the current regulation is as it is and consequently, if necessary, the questioner can also check by a doctor whether the regulation is taking place.
To complain to me that the questioner, in your opinion, should not use it, even if there is a claim, is still a strange place.
Now I write something again, even though I wanted to keep my shit 😅. As I said, with my short-sightedness, I am not in the area that is considered "normal" so know the connections.
I know that too. My friend has more than double my diopter numbers and, despite the really very high costs for his spectacle lenses (special productions), has a replacement glasses of identical thickness.
Also extremely short-sighted is my brother, who only leaves the house with contact lenses. It also seemed that he couldn't wear them, instead of going to university or now to work with glasses at the time, he makes a vacation in such a case. I find it correct because it is not a disease-related matter if you stay at home due to a problem with his visual aid (where in his case with -25, unlike a normal short-sightedness, the whole thing even has a disease value).
Long speech, short sense – I don't think it's okay to want a problem generated with personal failures (no substitute goggles in the questioner) to roll on others costly; here specifically because it is aware in advance of what would result in a defect or loss of its glasses. If he does not work in a profession where perfect visual acuity is required (forcers or the like), he could possibly also help with the predecessor of his current glasses for a few days, even if the values no longer fit completely.
You can't generalize. People have the most different eye problems and professionals are different in terms of wear on glasses.
Get out of it that there are at least a few people who can't use cheap simple replacement glasses.
As replacement glasses, one with simple glasses is enough, which does not cost much. As a student, I do not swim in the money and have high costs due to new glass thicknesses at least once a year. But what is it – at this point, there is nothing to discuss.
I think in the argument that there are very different costs for glasses and very different wallets at home.
It simply does not have to pay the money here every time 2 glasses (4 if sunglasses are still needed) to several hundred €.
This would be a massive disadvantage for low earners.
If glasses were a 10 € surcharge item from which the KV would take over more than one at the same time, that would be different, but then the costs would be again at the KV.
What bothers me here is the fact that the questioner is aware of the problem, because he asks in advance what possibilities he would have in the event of a loss of his glasses, instead of worrying with a substitute glasses that he does not come into such a one. And that (sorry) accuses me because it gives rise to the public costs for which he would be personally responsible.
Because you kindly allowed me to look at it as I want in your previous comment, I am still adding that I also find that what you have used as a quote in your answer is insane for spectacles, since these are not related to so-called body replacement pieces – but that is not to you, but to the authors of this regulation (if glasses are contained there; I did not deal with it in detail).
You can take a look at everything you want.
It only does not change that an AU is possible in the case of missing/broken aid, and the doctor decides whether the AU is missing in the case of the affected.
You're not forced to use it.
If you need glasses for exercising your profession, I consider it a matter of course to have adequate replacement available. If you don't, I don't think it's okay to burden the employer and health insurance = the general public.
I'm also short-sighted.
Thank God is only comparatively minimal (-2.5), my old glasses are on -1.25.
I work in the office and don't need the glasses for the PC work, but I'd be eg taxi drivers or bus drivers would be an absolute mess if I were to transport loot with my old glasses.
Speak I'm not AU if I can and can work with the public, I'd be AU if I were a bus driver.
That is why a doctor should note this and not the lay forum. The basis is there by law.
I see it differently. I am even reasonably short-sighted (-10.75 up-to-date) and find that it is my problem if I don't even have an older glasses with no more matching strength for emergencies. In such a case, a medical prescription would not come to my mind; if necessary I would take vacation.
No. If anything happens to you, you'll be polite if they give you a holiday day.
Who sees so bad should have a backup aka SPARE GLASSES.
And yes, it's expensive. But you'll have a new goggles before that, and then you'll just lift the old one up even if it's no longer optimal.
False
It's fun to find a doctor who doesn't make you stupid.
A lot of theoretically possible. But practice is different.
And an employer to whom you say something like this will never take one again
it's just a theoretical question. if you can't look more than 50 cm far, how to do something?
How do you want to know he can't do his job? He could stop the question here and nobody knows what he's working. Then the questioner should take leave or overtime and not use the health system
that is now valid. it is also officially called a disability certificate. the AN is not able to perform its activity due to the strong short-sightedness. google
Of course, that is not possible.
I also think it is superfluous to explain this in more detail. You have logically, even for your safety, to make a replacement.