Bad water values in the aquarium?
Hello everyone, about 6 weeks ago I bought a 60L cube aquarium and let it run in properly. After about 3 weeks I added 11 golden neons and 6 guppies. The water values were constantly optimal, even up until the day new arrivals arrived (6 dwarf corydoras and 5 amano shrimp). The following day I wanted to quickly check the water using a test strip and the values were suddenly very bad.
Nitrite=1mg
Nitrate=50mg
Gh=14 dh
KH=15 dh
pH= 7.6
Chlorine = 0
Carbon dioxide = <15 MG
I did a 50% water change and the nitrite level went logically to 0.5 mg, nitrate to 40 mg
But the Gh value suddenly went to >21
Today another 70% water change
Nitrite=0.25
Nitrate between 15-30
Gh= unchanged at >21
The tap water itself contains 0.25 nitrite
40 mg nitrate
GH= >14 dh
Carbon dioxide, however, also <15 MG
Can someone give me a tip on what needs to be improved and how I should proceed with the values? Where did the drop come from? I've only read up on it and am a complete beginner, but of course I want my fish to be as healthy as possible. Thank you very much in advance. I'm attaching a picture of the tank.
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Hello,
I don’t know where to start, both with you and in the answers!
Ordinary in 3 weeks?
It seems that the filter was overwhelmed, because 3 weeks inflow phase are quite little if you simply run it without worrying about the load on the water!
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Understood my guess of an overwhelmed filter! In addition, test strips are rather inaccurate, so they are also called lying sticks! This already shows the water values, because the KH is a part of the GH, can therefore not be higher/larger than the whole!
This can be quite on the floor or the decoration.
This is not unusual at first, because it is below the legal requirements of 50mg/l for NO3 and 0.5mg/l for NO2! NO3 is also not dangerous in height, but a plant nutrient that is just degraded by many plants, as well as the NO2 that is converted into NO3 by the bacteria!
The tap water already has 0.5mg/l nitrite and 40mg/l nitrate? Are you sure? Then the tap water is not suitable for keeping fish in it, as the water change does not bring. I guess it’s a mistake. How did you measure that?
PS: After 3 or 4 weeks the nitrite peak had not occurred. Plus, as soon as fish enter the basin, the biological stress is of course much higher for the first time. Therefore also the first question: How did you measure the values?
This corresponds to the legal limits and is absorbed by a well-running basin! Where NO3 is not a problem in concentration!
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I checked with the JBL per scan sticks and then with its droplet test for safety. The poor values were the same, with the amount differing somewhat.The sticks gave, for example, 0.5 mg nitrite during the droplet test over 1 mg.
Hello
Please forget the idea that too many fish are in there.
Oh, my God. So next…
For me this – sorry – is a typical example again why you should not measure water values.
Without the tests, you wouldn’t have noticed anything wrong.
Unfortunately, the knowledge that nitrite no strong fish poison in tap water is not widespread. Every water test is wrong.
Your tap water contains chloride ions that safely detoxify nitrite in the range 1 mg/l by dilution. The nitrite only gets badly into the fish body.
So you have no problem. Just listen to testing the water and change it to 50% once a week. By the way, there is no creeping nitrite poisoning. So it cannot happen that the fish are poisoned without symptoms by the nitrite.
Your aquarium is young. Do not feed it and let it grow, it will become more stable. Put the anubias on the wood, as well as the moss z.t.
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Serious tip for the occupancy: Please, please don’t think about giving individual fish in the dream now because of a veritable excess. That’s a advice. Your armored cat is too small. Do you get six more from exactly the same source?
The idea of black Guppy’s white Neons is good. But one thing that I would suggest to you: Do you have both sexes of the black Guppys? Get another 60 cube and let him run with the Guppys. Then only a few males over to the Neons. Otherwise, the neon basin runs full with Guppys until the neons are no longer optically applicable.
You only have a sex of the Guppys look at the dealer where you got them if he has the right females and get you a second 60l cube for the Guppys. These guppy bands are always shopping after they have not become very old again is super unhygienic for the duration of a neon life of easy 6 years.
Hello
A nitrite peak is normal
You probably went about longer because there was hardly anything in there, what could be wrong
In the three weeks without fish, you could have fed so that the bit goes faster
What remains to you is a daily change of water (of course never 100% at all) until enough bacteria have settled to convert your nitrite (Nitrit is almost poisonous for fish)
60 liters are rather small, the guppies will multiply as doof (if there are females and females). And Neons wouldn’t have recommended no beginners
LG
The nitrite peak was already there, which is why it may have taken about 3 weeks to finally cleanse.Do you think I have too little plants in it and could therefore be the pelvis to clean?In the case of water change, particles are swung around, the fear that it was more dirty than it looks…can both be the reason for nitrite…
Did you check this with sticks?
In any case, they would help to exploit the NO3!
Reheated Mulm is quite normal, which is certainly not the reason for the rise, but the trim has overwhelmed the filter!
Hmm
The plants help to use nitrate. So what your nitrite bacteria do.
I suppose that’s the filter back there. Then, as far as I know, plants are no longer so important.
You have nitrite because weaking takes place, but since there was no nitrite before, the amount of bacteria that utilize this is also very low. Heisst; they must first grow in number.
This will take a few days, a week+
Do not know what particles you mean (:
But nitrite is normal. You just lack the balance.
In my pelvis, you will not find any nitrite or no nitrite, there are enough bacteria that feed on it.
I’ve been recommended because these are easy to keep😳 and the guppy are 2 teens 2 girls and 2 boys or just 1 boy, you don’t know 🙂 that they multiply is aware of me,while always give them back.Do you think the general occupation could be too much at the moment?
So I think Neons are not super complicated, but I would have decided to be very simple. Guppies e.g. are super tolerant, but they also increase
You have a filter, so you have room to play with the crowd. I think it’ll be too close to them. But regarding nitrite, I think that should work
But what kind of guppies do you have? Reticulata can become quite large. Endlers stay small
Yes that was also my first thought concerning the overloaded filter, but with daily or two daily 50% water change should If the values are stable, you can extend the intervals!
The alternative would be more plants, especially fast growing stem plants, because tap water can You don’t change much, except perhaps a reverse osmosis, but I think that’s not really necessary!
Once it had been tested with the JBL droplets every day, it was only now…OK then I don’t have to worry about the mulm. Too fast too much
Council sticks 😂 actually measured first with it but immediately afterwards with the droplet test after.The with the tap water is a mystery to me.If you want to look for an alternative…
Yes, if it is so definitely looking that it is not overcrowded, don’t bring me and the fish.Hab a Moscow blue and an Endler’s male,what the girls are exactly, I can’t tell you something completely mixed,but no Endlers
Is the JBL CristalProf i80 not quite the 5€ AliExpress filter but of course also not the 200€ high-end external filter
No, nitrate is an end product which is only, either used by the plants or removed by water change, but after 40mg/l is already present in the tap water, it is necessary to address this over many plants, where this value is not really critical, but possibly can promote algae growth!
It is a riddle if the tap water has 40mg/l after a water change
However, this is certainly due to the Council sticks, as some other stated values also!
Nitrate is used by the plants, but there are plantless pelvis, I think the filter takes over the work?
Jo, that’s what I meant. Nitrit is always there (or is produced). But as long as the balance prevails, everything will be evaluated immediately
What do you think? Somehow the nitrate must be used!
As long as it is not detectable!
Hm, that may be. I have no idea of filter, don’t use any
“I assume the filter is in the back corner. Then, as far as I know, plants are no longer so important.”
Yes. This is also a very simple, cheaper internal filter when it came in the set. They don’t seem so much. It’s mostly a bit of a plow.
Tips:
Water change anyway 👍the test results were produced by the droplet test.But that with the fish quantity and the plants makes the most sense…