Russisches Passagierflugzeug ist in Antalya abgestürzt und paar Stunden später ist ein DHL Flugzeug in Litauen abgestürzt✅✅..Kann doch kein Zufall sein🤔🤔🤔?

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andrea77482
4 months ago

No, it wasn’t a crash, it was an emergency service for engine fire. Please inform! It was a Suchoi Superjet who had an engine problem.

See here:

airliners.de: Sukhoi Superjet engine after landing in Antalya in flames

af, Reuters25. November 2024, 10:20

https://www.airliners.de/notlandung-antalya-Russian aircraft landing flames/77932

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and here

Focus: In AntalyaRussian jet catches fire after landing – passengers evacuated

Sunday, 24.11.2024, 21:32

https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/im-tuerkischen-antalya-triebwerk-von-Russian aircraft-faengt-nach-landung-feuer_id_260508037.html

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Therefore, please do not spread such false facts. Thank you!

andrea77482
3 months ago
Reply to  andrea77482

By the way: new messages are coming in for this DHL crash. The first evaluation by the voice recorder is present and this now again reveals a pilot error: it looks as if the pilots do not correctly understand the altitude indication communicated by the radarlotsin. And then later after handing over to the towerlotsin, the pilots apparently do not understand the frequency for the tower contact correctly:

Pilot explains the last DHL aircraft radio test before the crash:Did a missing “2” lead to disaster?

Charlotte Mahncke26.11.2024 – 22:21

https://www.bild.de/news/ausland/dhl-abbruch-in-vilnius-fuehrte-eine-fallende-2-zur-katastrophe-6745d12764c51072bc21b49f

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See extract from this:

On the records it is to be heard how a radarlotsin from Lithuania gives the DHL freight aircraft from Leipzig the release to sink to 4000 feet (converted 1219 meters) for the instrument approach (ILS). It instructs the crew to control the slope 19 at the airport in Vilnius (Lithuania). The entire radio traffic is in English.

„Funkverkehr runs holprig“

The expert on BILD: “The pilots can once again confirm the approach to the slope 19 . This is not necessarily common. You can see here that the radio traffic is bumpy.” Then the lotsin gives the release to sink to 2700 feet (823 meters).

See below:

“The pilot repeats the height slightly wrong – he says 2500 feet (762 meters). It’s not a disaster, but it’s not right. Here the lotsin would have had to correct,” says the expert. But that doesn’t happen. Also at the air pressure value (QNH). “It reports 1020, it repeats 1019. Again not serious, but 30 meters different from the correct setting. ‘

Pilots understand Tower frequency wrong

Finally, the lotsin passes to the Tower of Vilnius Airport – with frequency 118205 (one one eight two zero five). The 2 (two) is difficult to understand. The lotsin speaks unclearly.

Then the fatal error follows: “It seems that the pilots have misunderstood the frequency they need to set to contact the tower!” the pilot explains. “They specify the frequency 11805 (one one eight zero five) as feedback. The 2 (two) is omitted, probably because they had overheared them. ‘

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Not only these two points can have contributed to this. The question is also: why do the pilots not realize that they fly too deep?? Why does the pilot pull the left wing so extremely high and why does the machine get such an extreme right twist?

And the third question:

Why don’t the pilots realize that they are far too far left from the runway and actually have to go to the right? Why do they call this street in this settlement instead of the runway??

andrea77482
3 months ago
Reply to  andrea77482

With this – if the pilots don’t really understand – I’d advise the pilots, ask for more safety! Once too much questioning is not bad. You don’t have to be ashamed of that. Why? And the radarlotsin must speak more clearly. But even the systems in the cockpit should have triggered a height alarm to show the pilots that they fly too low. Normally this “pull up” would have to be heard from the cockpit system.

Moreover, the theory of sabotage is already largely out. A sabotage can thus be excluded more or less.

mariozz
4 months ago

Think it’s just coincidence.

But fortunately all the passengers and the entire crew have come out in Antalya, and at the DHL flight we hope that the copilot and the two residents have not been hurt too badly.

It has happened more often in the past that it was partially white within two, three weeks, three, four crashes and then some time over a year garkeen crash.

andrea77482
4 months ago
Reply to  mariozz

Also in the DHL case, the copilot is apparently more severely injured. Both others are slightly injured. First consultation is already done. According to the statement, there were NO vulnerabilities in the cabin until immediately before the impact on the ground.

And new images from a further surveillance camera now show that the pilot pulls the left wing extremely up immediately before the impact and the machine is strikingly right. Here is the latest from youtube:

LITAUEN: DHL plane crashed at Vilnius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd8h9LqiNpM

See video:

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Apparently, for some reason, he tries to pull a right curve and the left engine doesn’t seem to run.

andrea77482
4 months ago
Reply to  mariozz

See here in the Tagesspiegel:

Day level:Update DHL Aircraft Disappeared About Lithuania: What we know about the crash – and what not

FromMaria Kotsev Sandra Lumetsberger Ausra Kaminskaite Daniel Krause25.11.2024, 22:40am

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/gesellschaft/panorama/dhl-airplane-uber-litauen-verunglucked-was-uber-den-abbruch-wissen-und-was-nicht-12763247.html(edited)

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andrea77482
4 months ago
Reply to  mariozz

See extracts from daily mirrors:

before extract Tagesspiegel by Boris Pistorius that no suspicious packages were on board:

TheGerman Ministry of Defenceso farno evidence of a possible explosive charge on boardthe DHL aircraft crashed at Vilnius. This shared Minister of DefenceBoris Pistorius(SPD) at a meeting with colleagues from France, Great Britain, Poland and Italy in Berlin on a journalist question.

Pistorius added that “it is now about increasing the sensitivity of certain freight shipments,” he said. “At the same time, we also know that there is no 100% security in this field. But the gaps that we can see must be closed,” said the Minister, adding: “This knows both civil aviation and military.”

then the statement from one of the surviving on board that there were no incidents in the cabin until the ultimate impact on the ground:

One of them was conscious at least for some time andEnglish. The survivingLithuanian crew member aged 34 yearswas in the cabin at the time of the accident and is slightly injured.

“The one who was in the cabin hasless suffered, he was conscious.Of course he has blue spots, he said himself, he has pain in the neck, in the back, in the head and in the right elbow,” he said.

Meanwhile confirmedPolice commander Arūnas Paulauskas,that the Lithuanian could already be questioned. His condition is probably the best of the entire occupation.According to his statements,nothing happened inside the plane – there was no smoke, no fire or anything elseThe Commissioner reports to journalists that might have caused the crash.

The DHL also says in this Tagesspiegel article that there were no noticeable packages on board:

Was it a technical mistake or terrorist attack?

There has been no evidence of a previous explosion. ASpeakers of DHL in Lithuaniasaid the group hadown investigations initiated.There have beenno evidence that one of the packages on board the machine suspectshad been.

“No information is available to us at this time, which indicates something unusual or suspected”, explained laterAusra Rutkauskiene,Sales and Marketing Manager at DHL Lithuania. During ongoing investigationshave not reported the company and will not comment. “We don’t want to speculate,” she was quoted by Lithuanian media.

Then here the statement of an aviation expert in this day-to-day mirror article, who also says there were no vulnerabilities until the impact on the ground

Everything looks like a normal landing approach, you cannot see drastic manoeuvres or explosions.

Vidas Kaupelis,Lithuanian aviation expert

TheLithuanian aviation expert Vidas Kaupelishas evaluated the online accessible lot communication of the freight flight. He assumes that theRecording authentic is, even if it cannot provide a final confirmation of authenticity. ‘That was acompletely routine communication“, says Kaupelis the daily mirror on the phone.

You don’t hear the crew ask for help or they’ll report an emergency. Therefore, Kaupelis assumes that the crew of the“what happened in the last seconds of the flight” has been surprised.

Also video material of the crash coincide with what is to be heard on the audio recording:“Everything looks like a normal landing approach,no drastic manoeuvres or explosions can be seen. ‘

Only in the last seconds will the aircraft drop faster. According to Kaupelis, judging video and audio recordingsdo not exclude an accident cause.

andrea77482
4 months ago
Reply to  mariozz

In addition, yesterday on ex-Twitter there was also a video about the last flight movements of the DHL machine:

https://x.com/chrisschmitz/status/1860932569249816602

Screenshot:

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And it also shows what:

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Here it is shown that the pilots have gone far too far from the runway. They hurried a road in a settlement to the left of the airport instead of keeping track and keeping altitude and picking up the airport:

https://www.directupload.eu/file/d/8750/kd3vqtwi_png.htm

Then I’ll show you what way they should have taken:

https://www.directupload.eu/file/d/8750/wo4hh336_png.htm

andrea77482
4 months ago
Reply to  mariozz

In addition, yesterday in the ATC radio, I noticed a serious mistake from the tower that gives a Wizzair machine (Wizz 59BU) release, although the DHL machine is on the way. I’ll show you this.

SwiftAir DHL Boeing B737-400 Crash near Vilnius Airport

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaDYV9IxJLo

I’ll show you all this time:

here the radio traffic with DHL:

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then he contacts a Wizzair machine 59BU and gives release what he should not have done:

https://www.directupload.eu/file/d/8750/aqdxypaq_png.htm

after that he contacts the DHL again

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then the DHL disappears from the screen:

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Then you can see the impact on the ground:

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andrea77482
4 months ago
Reply to  mariozz

Then I also have the data of Flightradar24 for you. And there’s a striking ground speed:

https://www.directupload.eu/file/d/8750/igo5f5pn_png.htm

https://www.directupload.eu/file/d/8750/g8ha3m4d_png.htm

Ruenbezahl
4 months ago

The Russian aircraft has not crashed, but has set up too hard, which is why a fire was created; probably a pilot fault. The Spanish DHL plane has been flying too deep and too fast. Either a pilot error or an instrument error or a fire on board that has put out important systems. What it was will show the investigation.

Benedikt581
4 months ago

It’s unlikely that this was the same pilot. By the way, my computer crashed 🤔🤔🤔

SpitfireMKIIFan
4 months ago

In Antalya no plane has crashed, but has got fire after landing.

In both cases, an attachment and a connection would have to be established for a connection. With two different aircraft from two different airlines from two different countries in two other different countries in two different scenarios, I spontaneously see no connection.

Benedikt581
4 months ago

crash and landing is the same 🤷

Stellwerk
4 months ago
Reply to  Benedikt581

Sarcasm?

wmsieger
4 months ago

Put in link from the Russian plane crash. Nothing came to the news until now.

Stellwerk
4 months ago

Yes.

In the morning a truck can also blur in Munich and in the evening one in Oslo. Without any connection.

Zalla55
4 months ago

Yes, it can be coincidence. Or what do you mean?