Reasons for 200-400cc motorcycle instead of 125cc?
Hey, I'm looking for reasons to get a 200-400cc bike and not a 125. The situation: I got my A2 driver's license last year (no driver's license before) and am currently looking for a motorcycle so I don't have to spend an hour on the train to work and also so I can go touring when I'm more confident. Unfortunately, most good used 200-500cc bikes around here are expensive and I only have 2800. My parents would only give me around 1000€ for a 250cc, even though she really wants me to buy a 125. But my mum also thinks that with the 250 Sym I would run myself into trouble because the top speed is so fast (140km/h) (which I would never ride anyway unless it might be dangerous when overtaking). However, I have found a couple of good 310cc and 390cc bikes, but I can't afford them.
My mother's counterarguments are:
a) Speed too fast for novice drivers, at that time she started with 40hp car and moped ~60kmh max
b) Costs (repair costs are higher, which means insurance, vehicle tax, fuel…)
C) says I should drive slowly to gain experience and says I will go full throttle after half a year when I feel confident
According to her, if I really want to drive bigger bikes, I should sell them next year and get a 300-400
D) higher weight aka risk of tipping over, longer braking distance
Does anyone have any good arguments against it? And no, please don't leave comments saying that starting slower is better. I'm not the kind of fast rider who just accelerates or opens the throttle if I'm unsure about something. I only want the higher speed in case I need it, and because the 125cc bike accelerates too slowly for me.
Thank you very much
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Find the arguments of the weak mother.
(a) You hardly find cars under 100hp today. At the time mentioned, however, there was also no safety belt, no airbag, no ABS, no slip control, the cars weighed half, the tires were very narrow, the bodies were far not so protected, etc.
(b) No. Maintenance costs are even lower as the small ones often have to go all 3tkm, the big ones I had between 7.5tkm to 12tkm to service. Fuel consumption 125er up-to-date what you read ~3 liters, my 390s needs 3.5 liters, my 500s needed 4 liters. These aren't differences that you throw on the scale. Insurance is purely dependent on age and SF classes, and very little on the vehicle. The last few years I had noticed full cash between 150 and 220 euros a year. No matter if 390, 500, 650. Pure liability amount ~50-80 euros per year.
c) Yes, but mopeds up to 500ccm are relatively slow, they are not racing machines. Not with 48hp. Are hoarded like middle-class cars at road speed. More about air pumps. And the driver still serves the gas. You can also turn with a 125er at 90 degrees angle at 120km/h. At least once.
(d) Also only conditionally correct. Let them compare the weight of "real" A2 bikes with their A1 counterparts. There you only have 10kg difference, because the engine is heavier and the elbow is thicker. Otherwise there are some models with completely identical structure and weight. The throttled A bikes are heavier but usually have 2 instead of 1 brake disc, 180 instead of 150 tires, ie more bearing surface, more driving assistance systems such as anti-slip control, cam ABS etc. I didn't have a big one, but after my memory I don't think the slower came to stand than my "small." :
I'd use the full 48ps. Just swirl in if you want to drive less. 250-300cc are also completely ok. 125 is more dangerous, in my opinion, you must drive next to the trucks on the highway. If you are overlooked, you cannot really save yourself because you are so slow
Yes, she doesn't want to do that because I could have the throttle "just like that" without knowing her.
Yeah, say the 125s are more dangerous. Better not be able to escape and drive between trucks or past them. Find 130 should be able to make the motorcycle and from 0-100 not in 10sec but less hahahaha
125 vs 500 cc:
I do not see higher maintenance and repair costs to be marginal. Whether I need 1.6 or 2.3 L of oil during oil change is hardly relevant. In the case of a larger, less stressed motor, the alternating intervals can be extended for this purpose.
Depending on the model, the tires may be slightly wider and therefore slightly more expensive. I also don't find it too exciting, with me the tires on the Vespa 200, the 750 Naked and the 1340 Cruiser always hold around the 6-8,000 km. These are a few years old.
The weight is often an issue for the motorcycle. However, for example, a 400 Husky Vitpilen weighs much like a 125 Naked. It's hard to generalize.
My XS 750 3-cylinder weighs 160 kg and is simply a heavy, fat, iron pig.
My 1340 Halrey weighs more than 300 kg and can be arranged more easily due to the lower focus.
The Vespa PX weighs 110 kg.
I prefer to drive the XS. For if it rolls, it is relatively easy to handle (for 1978).
Also depends on the size and execution of the driver.
For me, the advantages of the larger moped are quite clear. Depending on the budget, I'd get a new 500 from us, for example the Honda CL 500. It's fun for 30 years. A 125 will soon be sold with loss.
The 300-400cc class is not yet fully established. I would not necessarily buy because of the potentially smaller used market and the lower performance.
And I recommend to make many test drives.
Maybe it is.