Phantomspeisung per USB?
Eine echt dumme Frage, aber ich hab keine Ahnung von Physik 😅
Wie kann ein Audio-Interface welches über USB Strom bekommt eigentlich 48V Phantomspeisung haben wenn USB selbst nur eine Spannung von ca. 5V hat? Auch PC Netzteile selbst haben doch i.d.r. Nur 12V?
Voltages can be transformed or converted.
A transformer can be used with alternating voltage. The ratio of the coil turns between input and output then determines the ratio of the voltages between input and output.
This is not the case with DC voltage. This is also the reason why the phantom voltage does not interfere. Trafos cannot process DC voltages, so it is easy to separate audio signal (ACC) and power supply (DC).
So you have to go other ways. A so-called charge pump can be used. For this purpose, capacitors are charged in parallel and discharged again in series. Can also be imagined with batteries or do it. Two 12V batteries can be charged to 12V connected in parallel and if you connect the following in series you can connect 24V consumers. In the charge pump, two capacitors or Batteries in, a set of charges, the other discharge. Of course, this is also possible with several capacitors/batteries to obtain higher voltages.
Many audio amplifiers ICs have installed such charge pumps, as it is necessary to connect only 4 large capacitors in most cases.
Another way is a DC-DC converter Here, the voltage is chopped into an alternating voltage with a coil or a “minitrafo”. After rectification and smoothing, the DC voltage which is as higher or lower as desired is again obtained. Due to the high frequency of chopping, smaller coils or Trafos as you can at 50Hz. Switching power supplies are therefore much smaller and lighter than normal power supplies with transformer.
The fact that USB can only go up to 12 volts is basically not correct.
USB-C can go up to 20 volts (100 watts at 5 amperes)
But 40… There must be a voltage converter at the plant. 🤔
Hello,
DC voltage converters are installed. In the case of upshifters.
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/aufw%C3%A4rts Converter
DC voltage can also be transformed. Also from USB to 48V.
But here I am irritating the expression “Phantom feeding”. I only know it so far that a high-frequency amplifier is supplied with voltage from the receiver via an antenna line.
This is done, for example, with 18V, which are brought from the satellite receiver to the LNB to the antenna. The useful signal is then usually separated from the supply voltage with capacitors.
Bin Radio Electronics
The 48V are probably the voltage for capacitor microphones that do not have their own supply.
Right. It’s plausible.
This is exactly the same for microphones supplied via phantom feeding. The useful signal must be freed from the 48V DC before the microphone preamplifier via capacitors. Ploppt also quite violently if the gain is accidentally completely torn open and the phantom voltage lets the microphone signal jump by +/-48V;-)
Update: oh, Thread 4 months old. Well.
There’s some DC converter in there that converts it.