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KleinerMartin
5 years ago

If the mare isn’t ready, it can be that she leaves. They often stand out when the stallion is on the rise and he enters the abdomen, the penis or the testicles. This can lead to injuries.

KleinerMartin
5 years ago
Reply to  stefischnee

The parents of my ex had a little horse breeding and I looked up a few times. It happened that the mare had kicked out

friesennarr
5 years ago

It’s as dangerous as anything else in life.

There are stallions that have been so excited that they have received a heart attack. Also stallions that were too often in use had everything from exhaustion states to heart attack on diseases.

The ceiling itself can cause cover injuries not only at the mare. Everything is possible from torn penises and testicles about strokes or bites. Due to false jumping or jumping, there were already leg injuries and spinal damage (in the case of Beiden).

In the vast majority of cases, however, the stallion holders are so well known that they take care of everything without accidents.

But it is not possible to prevent the sudden death of the heart, and this unfortunately happens again and again in our high-performance breeding. At least 8 stallions have died in the last 10 years alone during or shortly after the ceiling.

Hjalti
5 years ago

Can be dangerous, it’s better… the mare can make the stallion quite bad, but that doesn’t happen so often. There is no more soooo in any case, many zuchställlle take precautions, e.g. the mares are held during the cover act, the iron is removed at the back and the legs are fixed, so that they cannot kick the stallion.

Or are you talking about diseases now? Serious breeders also make arrangements for this, the mare owner must prove that his mare is healthy.

KirstenSe
5 years ago
Reply to  Hjalti

Many Zuchställlle take precautions, for example, the mares are held during the cover act, the iron is removed at the back and the legs are fixed so that they cannot kick the stallion.

Sounds like rape 🤮

friesennarr
5 years ago
Reply to  KirstenSe

If a mare is good rusty, it is not necessary to incorporate it, we are made by many stallion holders for the safety of their stallions – it is nothing bad.

Only if a mare is not well rusty is then constricted like a packet and then forced to be covered would be so compared, but everyone who knows a bit about the matter, which then no foals come out.

Dahika
5 years ago
Reply to  KirstenSe

It is. Many mares do not take up. An acquaintance of me had bought a very good Arab mare that got her cheap because the mare was considered infertile. So my acquaintances held her as a riding horse. But since the horse was really good with very good papers they wanted to have a foal of her. She’s been struggling to find a good Arab stallion that covered the mare free on the pasture. One week she was in love with the stallion and the two were in love. Zack got her pregnant and got a very good filly. And two years later, another one.

Hjalti
5 years ago
Reply to  KirstenSe

Hard word for this, however, in the broadest sense… on the other hand, there is a – often well-known – breeding stallion that is worth a few tsd, often more, eurons… It always depends. For example, the natural leap, even if the stallion is valuable, is the most common form of covering. In warm-blooded animals, especially when it comes to high-priced sports horses, the idR is handled differently.

Dahika
5 years ago

often well-known – breeding stallion, which is worth some Tsd, often more, Euronen..

In the 1960s, Northern Dancer was the most expensive horse in the world. He cost only $20,000 when he was shopping, and what he was worth later, you only know inaccurately. In any case, the value of the second horse in the world was at its time 100,000 million Dollars. A foal of Northern Dancer has 13. It was still in the womb! The mare was not included in the purchase price.
Its deck tax was $100,000 per jump. No foal guarantee. In the case of gallops, artificial insemination and freezer is prohibited.

Northern Dancer lived in the open-plan – alone – had the opportunity to go out and was monitored by monitor 24/7. Well, I would, too, at the price. He was the father of Nijinski II and is practically contained in all the pedigrees of gallops.

Hjalti
5 years ago

Then say “you” what they “sollen”… surely they care… Do you think when it comes to horses worth 5 – 6 digits, then still jmd cares about any sensitivities? In addition, it is not that it is not artificially constrained. On the contrary. But, of course, the mare is also being held and precautions are taken that it does not stop the TA in the case… or do you think it’s great or better and just let it happen about itself? She doesn’t know what you’re doing right now.

Experienced breeders take precautions when jumping by hand, yes. But they don’t put any mare there that’s not ready.

Now that you have the information that the loud women are doing, I don’t get out of it. Look at the big studs, they are almost all led by men, and there are many men working.

KirstenSe
5 years ago

Yes, so I can accept it

And who’s with the other variant? Loud women!

Doesn’t it come to them that the jmd does with them? 😢

KirstenSe
5 years ago

So what?

Then they should be artificially seeded if it is such a noble stallion

Why do you think you need to treat animals like that?

Breeding, in certain contexts, can be divided opinion, but then please in a natural way

That’s it.

Heklamari
5 years ago

If not professional and artgemaess stallion and mare come together, there can be fatal injuries in both cases.

This is less common today, because it is often artificial, but in some races it is not common.

From the broken jaw to the perforated vagina, a number of dangerous things are possible.

My stallions lived in the small herds’ association and were always polite until the mares asked them. .

But earlier, in my time as a warm-blooded breeder, I also experienced gaaaaan other methods…

HeroHeel
5 years ago

If the mare isn’t completely ready, she likes to join.

It is customary to tie the mare together completely without a rifle and to direct the stallion to the mare, which in my eyes is pure animal torture!

At that time, I offered my stallion as a stallion for an acquaintance, but this certainly went off, for several days on a large coupling with a lot of freedom of movement, decontamination possibilities and we were always present to intervene. Yeah, that was a risk for my stallion, but in nature it is.

HeroHeel
5 years ago
Reply to  stefischnee

Sure. Apart from the fact that my stallion as the youngest new member of the herd had to learn where his place is… Enter, bite or chased across the coupling. It’s a stallion owner.

pony
5 years ago
Reply to  stefischnee

if he turns or pushes himself too fragrant, he is bit away from the stubborn rather than kicked.

friesennarr
5 years ago
Reply to  HeroHeel

If a mare is not ready, it doesn’t make any sense to cover it, it doesn’t take up anyway.

But there are also maiden marshes who are ready but still feel the stallion as a terrible thing, then you need either a super experienced stallion or you have to include a hind leg for protection –

But animal torture is still different.

HeroHeel
5 years ago

I would like to mention that after the cover act, he was also from the stallion to the Wallach… In my herd, he gets something from the “Big Boss” on his nose, as my Andalusier Wallach just makes one on the boss, or just the snout has full of the cheeky behavior of my young star. Otherwise, the herd is harmonious (in the meantime only 4 horses, on the weekend unfortunately one had to pass over the rainbow bridge… 2 horses belong to me, 2 are adjusters).

HeroHeel
5 years ago

He stood alone with the mare on the pasture…
In my own herd, my little Doofi had to learn where his place is…

pony
5 years ago

for the leap of grazing, the hengst is only put together with the stubborn and not with a group of stubborn.

a natural association of horses consists of 1 stallion, 1-2, maximum 3 stubs and their growth.

horses do not live in large groups and not in hearts. if horses were to live in large herds of a stallion with many stubborns, it would be much less hengstfohlen among the born foals.

HeroHeel
5 years ago

Both of them happen, depending on which side the stallion thinks to come to the shot 😀 Aside from the fact that my stallion has been doing a real job like a full 😀

Shiraunddati
5 years ago

Most of them cover a phantom anyway. And there’s usually nothing happening.

friesennarr
5 years ago
Reply to  Shiraunddati

Is about 50 / 50

Still natural jumping and covering is predominant.

Only with very expensive, far away and high-frequency hengsts is artificial insemination more common.

My mare had two foals and never seen a stallion live. Too bad about it, but the one that fits really great with it covers only on deck station in the high north and only on fresh semen shipment.

pony
5 years ago

the natural congestion is absolutely harmless for the stallion.

the same applies to the seeding on an attributable.

the deck jumping on the hand is dangerous, because he has no time to determine whether the stub really “stands” but should do his “job” as soon as possible. the stubborn is not ready yet, she knocks off the stallion. that means she quits with both rear legs. it can destroy the breast or break a bit or the skull.

most importantly, which otherwise cover in the crest, are very cautious at the hand. most importantly, those who only know the cover on the hand are often too impatient at the leap.

Conclusion: under natural circumstances, the congruent for a hengst that knows the natural congruent does not have any risk.

WinniePou23
5 years ago
Reply to  pony

It should be emphasized, however, that when we leave the pasture, one naturally has the same risks that a socialization on the pasture otherwise also entails. The stallion can also get a kick or a bite here, depending on where it is hit, this is then completely harmless or also with serious consequences.

With us a stallion was caught a few weeks ago by the mare quite nasty on the tubular bag and the whole swollen to an enormous size of about at least one big orange. Antibiotics, cooling, painkillers and two weeks of stubborn running were the result. That can happen. No risk can be said. If there’s a strong kick in the crown jewels with the elites, it’s a risk.